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weeks 6-13
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weeks 3-4
LST
weeks 4-8
HST
weeks 4-6, 8
Defoliation
weeks 5-8, 11
Coco Coir
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Week 13
Flowering
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Wontgiveup Wontgiveup
4 years ago
Started flushing with filtered water. The widow had a gradual decline from days 45-49, from EC 2.4 to 0 on day 50. BK on day 50: EC 1.4 Will go down from here. Day 51 started pure flush with only filtered water at 7.0 pH. Day 52 went to 8/16 lights on/off. This is to encourage the bubba kush to finish up faster since it’s slower than the widow and I really don’t want the widow to go any longer than it needs to; The widow is a 55 day strain and the bubba is 63. At least, according to the breeders. And I really don’t want to chop them down at different times since I really only have the tent to use for drying. Day 54 Update: USB Microscope arrived. Apparent ambering on a number of trichomes on the widow. Dinafem says 55 days indoor and i would not disagree. However the 8/16 "early finish" trick appears to be working well with the BK (a 9 week strain) as it has mostly (if not all) milky/cloudy trikes (see day 54 microscope photos)- and, the widow wouldnt hurt with another day or 2. I will be tracking very closely for the next 48 hours. i assume on day 56 i will switch off the light for 48 hr darkness. the BK will just be a bit underripe, but its worth it to chop her early if it means i can chop the widow at the right time. Day 55: trichomes almost entirely cloudy with scattered amber heads on the Bubba Kush. The bud structure on this plant just convinces me even more than before that it’s simply a bit of a mutant phenotype. Looking closely at the photos you will notice the calyxes are poking their heads through the dense foliage with very dense “weave” patterns of biomass. No matter how much I tried, I could not decrease the vegetation and fan leaf production both during veg and flower. Day 55: Widow trichomes practically entirely cloudy, even on lower canopy buds. Upper canopy buds have noticeable amount of amber and golden heads. I would harvest today, but I want to give the BK a few more days. I don’t have easy access to the runoff- long story. I was going in at peak flower with 2.1-2.4 EC. On the high end, that was due to Max level of recommended dosage of the Hydro Bloom A+B from Hygen (2.0 EC) + .6-.8 EC from the Rhino K and the remainder came from the Biodiesel and the Aloevate. (.15-.2 EC together). After a few days of straight water flush, I managed to remove the “scrog net” (never using that again, squares are too wide) and pulled out the bubba kush to measure the runoff. On day 55: runoff 2.1 On day day 56: runoff 1.4 I plan to switch off lights for 48 hour dark period after day 56-57.
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Grow Questions
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveupstarted grow question 4 years ago
Using the mars hydro tsw2000. -struggling to get to temp and RH that is recommended for 0.4-0.8 VPD. If I go higher than 25% power on the light dimmer, my temps jump to 30 C and humidity drops to 45%. The best I can do is 26-28C, 48%-55% RH. Is this ok for young seedlings??
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Shagrath
Shagrathanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi! You can add a wet towel in to the tent and even better if you put it to a bucket filles with water. Also you can cut plastic bottle on half and place it as a dome but dont put the cap on so the air can exchange still
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveupstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hey fellow gardeners, Is this young White Widow showing signs of heat stress? With lights on, my tent is a constant 26-28 C (79 - 83 F) and RH is 64%-74%. And I do trust my sensors. Mars Hydro TSW2000 turned down to ~40% intensity. Light was ~ 10” from leaves. Growing in coco.
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Leaves. Curl up
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 4 years ago
I wouldn't worry about it, Cannabis plants can grow strange leaves at times, but I would try 24 inches at 75% as a first option to see if that helps, if you are really worried about the leaves.
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveupstarted grow question 4 years ago
I didn’t train The WW very well and there is an uneven canopy. I’ve removed as many of the lower bud sites and branches that I think are likely to be small & tried to supercrop/bend/train the taller colas but my scrog isn’t great and now I’m not sure how high to hang the LED
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TopNotchBud
TopNotchBudanswered grow question 4 years ago
Ooo, kind of a tough one. You'd want to keep your lights at the perfect height above the highest top. I did notice the right plant is kind of shorter than the left one so what you could do is maybe stack some things under the right pot to keep both plants even. As for the colas being uneven, that should have been dealt with during vegetation and it gets hard to deal with during flowering because the stems harden up. They will still provide you with descent buds but you can take this all as a learning experience. PS: I have the same lights and the same tent 😝
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveupstarted grow question 4 years ago
I have been monitoring this deformation of leaves over the last week or two. It is now spreading. All I have done lately is gradually reduced the amount of cal-mag; pH is pretty consistent but of course that could have been wrong one day.
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Looks like your nutrition level is a pinch high by leave ends, nutrition burn and show up anywhere on leaves. What is your run off ph?
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Ferenc
Ferencweek 2
Good Luck @@Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@Ferenc, thanks... feels good to have climate control
Ferenc
Ferencweek 1
Happy Growing @@Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@Ferenc, thanks, will post more photos soon
autoseedsman
autoseedsmanweek 1
Mate get a cover on that filter ASAP bud
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@autoseedsman, thanks and I’m more calm now because I got a humidifier with humidistat in there
autoseedsman
autoseedsman
@@Wontgiveup, good luck with the rest of the grow buddy
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@autoseedsman, ok awesome info thanks I had no idea. Funny fact: this is my first filter that DIDN’T have a cover on it and this is my third grow 😝 Anyway, it’s gone, not using it until I need it
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TheUk420Show
TheUk420Showweek 1
Lower that light pal :)
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@TheUk420Show, So now I’m actually able to get the light to 12” above. With the light at 50%! That’s great- and only because the humidifier is cooling the air. Mars Hydro recommend 18-24” for early stages. 12” at 50% would be in line with their recommendations for optimum PAR
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@TheUk420Show yep I’ve been experimenting with light distance and the dimmer setting (light intensity). My main issue: heat. But now I’ve got a humidifier in there which is also cooling the air.
Ferenc
Ferencweek 10
Happy Flowering @@Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@Ferenc, thank you!
Ferenc
Ferencweek 11
Happy Flowering @@Wontgiveup
Ferenc
Ferencweek 3
Happy Growing! @@Wontgiveup
Legiongrower
Legiongrowerweek 12
beautiful beautiful >👌
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@@Legiongrower thank you thank you 😁
UltraFlatBlack
UltraFlatBlackweek 12
Your ladies are looking great! Keep it up and I hope your harvest is awesome!👌👍✌️
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@UltraFlatBlack, thank you!
MarsHydroLED
MarsHydroLEDweek 7
Looks great!! Now we have a contest to win free SP 6500, please feel free to join it lol 🙌😋
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@MarsHydroLED, thanks! Your LED light is the first time I’ve grown with LED. I joined the contest, and I’m wondering how do you determine who is the winner?
heizen
heizenweek 6
Nice grow mate, plants are looking good, keep it up, imma follow this one upclose.
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@heizen, Thanks!! To be honest the bubba is really stunted and has gone through so much abuse; first it was topped in a bad way and instead of having an easy recovery it then went through about a week of being overwatered with bad pH regulation and that really was harsh. I’ve managed to resurrect her so she’s now got at least 4 main tops that should do nicely but honestly...I wouldn’t ever want to grow this one again. So damn bushy, nodes are so tight, way too difficult to train. Maybe if I had only short bushy plants all together in the same grow, then I could play around with the light height and other factors to encourage stretching etc but next to the white window which has been so strong, resilient and vigorous the whole way through, it’s taught me a few things about planning my next grow. Cheers!!!
DreamOn
DreamOnweek 1
Good luck with the grow mate! 🌱😎
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@DreamOn thanks!
Lazuli
Lazuliweek 14
Hey nice grow, i ise the same light im wondering how high do u hang your light ? And how mich yield do u pull off a grow ? I only get 1gram per watt (300gram from 2 autos) i feel i cant put more plants under
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyder
@@Wontgiveup, Ya I've been having the same issues for a while with my boards. I just cant seem to figure out intensity and distance for my system. Those widows look so good though!
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@Lazuli, at the lowest point the light was about 10 -12 inches from the canopy at 100% of its light output , during flower. Probably a bit too close; next time I’ll keep it a bit higher.
dreambomber
dreambomberweek 12
Amazing colors btw. Next time you clip it try to hold your phone horizontally, dude. It will give more info inside movie. 👌
dreambomber
dreambomber
@@Wontgiveup, don't care too much about fading. I know a man from here who always have bright green plant harvested, and they smokes and smells fine. 💪
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@@dreambomber thanks! Will try horizontal next time. And I hope the finishing colours are nice too
power88
power88week 14
Excelente trabajo todo un profesional 💪😉
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@power88, thanks! I’m quite happy with the results from the widow.
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyderweek 14
Dang, this is scaring me for my first harvest. I think I did the exact same thing. I was looking for long flowering journals so I came here and now I feel like I finished a favorite saga haha.
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@FlynnRyder, sorry it took me so long to respond; I haven’t been on GD in a while. Don’t be scared! If you had a good veg and flipped at the right time and get good climate control during flowering you will be happy
ghostface00132
ghostface00132week 14
Yah bubba kush by green house is a super fussy plant and not at all like the bubba kush that we come to love, not a great yielder. That white widow though, that looks fantastic.
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@ghostface00132, totally fussy and while I admit it wasn’t in the most ideal conditions, seeing it next to that widow in the same tent just shows you how genetics is the key to everything. I’ve been smoking the widow from this harvest every day. It’s gold.
dreambomber
dreambomberweek 14
wow, they are beautiful!
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@@dreambomber, thanks!! Can’t wait to smoke it
dreambomber
dreambomberweek 12
That's a frosty octopus! 💪
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@@dreambomber thanks! Cheers!
amir930
amir930week 9
Looks great mate
Wontgiveup
Wontgiveup
@amir930, thanks!