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El Patron

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Quantum board Light Emitting Diodes/120W
Quantum board
Custom 60x60x180
Custom 60x60x180
Indoor
Room Type
Defoliation
weeks 6, 8, 11, 16, 19-20
ScrOG
weeks 17-25
LST
weeks 6-8, 13
Main-Lining
weeks 8
Topping
weeks 6, 8
Soil
Grow medium
15 L
Pot Size
0.2 L
Watering
G
Germination
4 years ago
Hello friends and family! Last Friday I've decided to pop a seed of El patron. After 40ish hours between paper towels, sprouting happened. She gotten quite laggy in the week and seems like a good start for us. Thanks @james
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Week 1. Vegetation
4 years ago
5 cm
18 °C
6.1
550 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
1 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 2
Bio Vega - BIOCANNA
Bio Vega 1 mll
BioRHIZOTONIC - BIOCANNA
BioRHIZOTONIC 2 mll
21/12 - 27/12 It's been a very slow growth for the plant and she gotten very leggy. I really dislike that. Therefor I have moved all my plants under the 100w QB board. I want her to grow and be awesome!
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Week 2. Vegetation
4 years ago
5 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
550 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
1 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 2
Bio Vega - BIOCANNA
Bio Vega 1 mll
BioRHIZOTONIC - BIOCANNA
BioRHIZOTONIC 2 mll
28/12 - 3/1 Welcome to this week. She is getting fed every 3 days with nutes. happy plant all and all. she stopped stretching which is really good for me.
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Week 3. Vegetation
4 years ago
5 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
550 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
7 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 3
Bio Vega - BIOCANNA
Bio Vega 1 mll
BioRHIZOTONIC - BIOCANNA
BioRHIZOTONIC 2 mll
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
4/1 - 10/1 Another week is in the books for this lovely plant. I didn't like the 1l pot and also I wanted to stop the streach. On Friday I transplanted her to the bigger pot.
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Week 4. Vegetation
4 years ago
5 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
550 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
7 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 3
Bio Vega - BIOCANNA
Bio Vega 1 mll
BioRHIZOTONIC - BIOCANNA
BioRHIZOTONIC 2 mll
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
11/1 - 17/1 She is showing slow growth in comparison to her friends. I think the transplant last week shocked her quite badly. The plant next to her doubled in size after the move to 7L bucket. Hopefully she will recover this week.
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Week 5. Vegetation
4 years ago
5 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
550 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
7 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 3
Bio Vega - BIOCANNA
Bio Vega 1 mll
BioRHIZOTONIC - BIOCANNA
BioRHIZOTONIC 2 mll
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
18/1 - 24/1 The plant is getting bushy every day but she is not getting taller at all. The spacing of the nodes is very small. I have 3 different diaries that started at the same date and they are triple the size of her. Still, she looks healthy.
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Week 6. Vegetation
4 years ago
5 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
550 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
7 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 3
Bio Vega - BIOCANNA
Bio Vega 1 mll
BioRHIZOTONIC - BIOCANNA
BioRHIZOTONIC 2 mll
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
25/1 - 31/1 The plant is getting very thick but won't stretch. I have topped her and started a bit of lst. Its not done by far, I still need to pull 3 or 4 more branches. But hey next week is another one #staysafe
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LST
Technique
Topping
Technique
Defoliation
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Week 7. Vegetation
4 years ago
30 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
550 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
7 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 3
Bio Vega - BIOCANNA
Bio Vega 1 mll
BioRHIZOTONIC - BIOCANNA
BioRHIZOTONIC 2 mll
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
Another week is in the books for this lovely plant. Topping, trimming and LST all around. She is just amazing. I don't have space any more 😂😂
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Week 8. Vegetation
4 years ago
30 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
550 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
7 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 3
Bio Vega - BIOCANNA
Bio Vega 1 mll
BioRHIZOTONIC - BIOCANNA
BioRHIZOTONIC 2 mll
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
Closing up the week with some extreme topping and reshaping the plant. She is now in her final shape, in 3 weeks she will go into the tent and probably repot into 15L.
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LST
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Topping
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Main-Lining
Technique
Defoliation
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Week 9. Vegetation
4 years ago
30 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
550 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
7 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 3
Bio Vega - BIOCANNA
Bio Vega 1 mll
BioRHIZOTONIC - BIOCANNA
BioRHIZOTONIC 2 mll
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
This plant stretch is crazy, she is very thin but tall and with huge leafs. Since she is placed in the back of the area I can't take good pictures of her Sorry for that. In roughly two weeks she will be in the tent with her sisters
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Week 10. Vegetation
4 years ago
30 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
550 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
7 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 3
Bio Vega - BIOCANNA
Bio Vega 1 mll
BioRHIZOTONIC - BIOCANNA
BioRHIZOTONIC 2 mll
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
El patron.... Ahh what a name and what a plant. This is the tallest plant of them all. She reached the moon and looks very lanky and has huge fan leafs. To my readers, I promise these are the last crappie pix I take as she is moved into the big tent.
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Week 11. Vegetation
4 years ago
75 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
790 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
7 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 3
Bio Vega - BIOCANNA
Bio Vega 1 mll
BioRHIZOTONIC - BIOCANNA
BioRHIZOTONIC 2 mll
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
We are closing up this week with a major change for the plant. SHE IS IN THE TENT!! Joy joy, happy joy! As the other two projects closed up, I have cleaned up the tent, sanitized, and moved her in. She is very leggy and thin, also the bucket is 7L. I don't want her to stay like that, I'm thinking to put her in 11L pot.....
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Week 12. Vegetation
4 years ago
75 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
790 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
7 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 3
Bio Vega - BIOCANNA
Bio Vega 1 mll
BioRHIZOTONIC - BIOCANNA
BioRHIZOTONIC 2 mll
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
She is very leggy and thin AF. I don't have space for a bigger pot so for now that is the current situation. Not much I can do atm. 8/3 - 14/3
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Week 13. Vegetation
4 years ago
75 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
790 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 4
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
Alga Grow - PLAGRON.
Alga Grow 1 mll
Power Roots - PLAGRON.
Power Roots 1 mll
The deficiency is continuing to be an issue. Checking the runoff I got 450ppm with ph 5.9 I think that this is potassium deficiency since P is absorbed at pH 6.1. She was repotted into fabric pot of 15L. And I'm trying on her the plagron line, same as the other diary. Nothing wrong with biocanna simply I wanted to try a different line just before flowering
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timbarin
timbarinstarted grow question 4 years ago
What deficiency do you think I'm dealing with? These are old fan leafs.
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Leaves. Color - Black or grey
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HiddenGreenThumbanswered grow question 4 years ago
Looking at the red stems on the stalk id say that this plant is suuuuuper stressed. I would start by raising the ph to around 6.2- 6.5, some of the issue could be lockout as you already suspect. That may fix some. I would water with just plain ph water for a few cycles just to see if it stabilizes. Good luck, hope this fixes it
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Week 14. Vegetation
4 years ago
75 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
790 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 4
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
Alga Grow - PLAGRON.
Alga Grow 1 mll
Power Roots - PLAGRON.
Power Roots 1 mll
The deficiency seems to disappear almost completely and the plant looks happier than last week. I assume that in 4 weeks flowering period will begin. Waiting atm for 11L growtex bag. Once I get it I will move another plant into the tent and flower all the three
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Week 15. Vegetation
4 years ago
75 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
790 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 4
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
Alga Grow - PLAGRON.
Alga Grow 1 mll
Power Roots - PLAGRON.
Power Roots 1 mll
another week is in the books , not much to report here besides that the strech is quite big and she looks healthier than before. i think the new food helped her out.
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Week 16. Vegetation
4 years ago
75 cm
18 hrs
18 °C
6.1
790 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 4
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
Alga Grow - PLAGRON.
Alga Grow 1 mll
Power Roots - PLAGRON.
Power Roots 1 mll
This closes the last week of veg As I write this message the 12/12 cycle is on! The countdown is starting today. This is really exciting news, 16 weeks of veg was way to long and I really need to rethink my rotation plans with the plants. She requires maximum of 12 weeks from seed using 15L pots. If I switch to 11L I think 8 weeks will suffice. The scrog net is from yesterday.
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Week 17. Flowering
4 years ago
75 cm
12 hrs
18 °C
6.1
1250 PPM
45 %
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 2
Power Roots - PLAGRON.
Power Roots 1 mll
Alga Bloom - PLAGRON.
Alga Bloom 4 mll
Concluding the first week of flowering! She started to show flower formation and looks healthy. I'm trying to control the growth of the plant. She should stop in two weeks
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Week 18. Flowering
4 years ago
110 cm
12 hrs
18 °C
6.1
Weak
960 PPM
65 %
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 2
Power Roots - PLAGRON.
Power Roots 1 mll
Alga Bloom - PLAGRON.
Alga Bloom 4 mll
The feeding schedule has stabilized and the plants are getting fed every 48 hours with 5L solution. The scrog net stops her from getting taller (110cm) and the flowers started to develop. The smell also started to be noticeable.
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Week 19. Flowering
4 years ago
110 cm
12 hrs
18 °C
6.1
Weak
960 PPM
65 %
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 2
Power Roots - PLAGRON.
Power Roots 1 mll
Alga Bloom - PLAGRON.
Alga Bloom 4 mll
26/4 - 2/5 This has been a very eventful week, as I was wrapping up last weeks entries I started to see white larve on my fan leafs and then I spotted like thrips. I took a biological pesteside and they seem to have died after spraying them twice. On Thursday,the smart switch didn't turn off the light and this made me readjust my 12/12 cycle. Running it now from 9 to 9. I also feel the plagron food is quite weak and dosen't really make big flowers
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Week 20. Flowering
4 years ago
110 cm
12 hrs
18 °C
6.1
Weak
975000 PPM
65 %
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 2
Power Roots - PLAGRON.
Power Roots 1 mll
Alga Bloom - PLAGRON.
Alga Bloom 4 mll
The plants are growing and getting fatter and thicker by the day. I can see shoots of red pistins on the flowers and they are very sticky. The smell starts to be noticeable but I have a carbon filter so I'm sorted for now I do consider to bring ac unit
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Week 21. Flowering
4 years ago
110 cm
12 hrs
18 °C
6.1
Weak
975000 PPM
65 %
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 2
Power Roots - PLAGRON.
Power Roots 1 mll
Alga Bloom - PLAGRON.
Alga Bloom 4 mll
She is lanky and tall and haven't recovered from the pesticide. But the buds are quite okish. I hope they will swallow nicely. She got 4 more weeks..
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Week 22. Flowering
4 years ago
110 cm
12 hrs
18 °C
6.1
Weak
975000 PPM
65 %
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
40 cm
Nutrients 2
Power Roots - PLAGRON.
Power Roots 1 mll
Alga Bloom - PLAGRON.
Alga Bloom 4 mll
17-23/5 2021 It was an up and down week, the plant starts to show some druppy leafs and yellowing on some small leafs at the bottom of the plant. The rest of her looks is lush and green with long colas and very raiseny flowers.
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Week 23. Flowering
4 years ago
43.31 cm
12 hrs
18 °C
6.1
Weak
225000 PPM
65 %
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
15.75 cm
Nutrients 2
BioBOOST - BIOCANNA
BioBOOST 4 mll
Alga Bloom - PLAGRON.
Alga Bloom 4 mll
Pretty standard week for the plants. One more week and it's chopping time. Well maybe 2 weeks 😂😂. Feeding is getting a bit more intense now I fed every 24 hrz rather than 48 hrz Ran out of green sensation so I'm back to biocanna boost.
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Week 24. Flowering
4 years ago
43.31 cm
12 hrs
18 °C
6.1
Weak
225000 PPM
65 %
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
15.75 cm
Nutrients 2
BioBOOST - BIOCANNA
BioBOOST 4 mll
Alga Bloom - PLAGRON.
Alga Bloom 4 mll
Wrapped up week 8 for this plant. As I write this the feeding stoped and I switched over to tap water. She will be chopped off next week and hung to dry using wet method techniques. Roughly a week ago I have mishandled a flower and it dropped off. After drying it for 3 days I gave it a go and the smoke was amazing. Its a real 50/50 and I think this will be the weed of 2020. @james be careful, you gonna run out of stocks 😁😁😁😁😁
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Week 25. Flowering
4 years ago
125 cm
12 hrs
18 °C
6.1
Weak
225000 PPM
65 %
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
15.75 cm
Nutrients 1
Water 1 mll
This was her last week alive... Powered by water and love she made it through the last 7 days She is now chopped off and hung to dry with rh of 50ish and 21c. I will post harvesting feedback and full review in couple of weeks. At the moment I can say that she has small buds, some dense some less with purple coloring and some are green
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Week 25. Harvest
4 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
Rated
8/10
Rated
Before diving into my review I wanted to mention that these seeds were sent to me by @james and in return I agreed to create this diary. The reviews are completely mine and I'm completely unbiased. El Patron is 60/40 Sativa plant, Its a cross of AMG and Shiva. It grew relatively tall to 1.4M, developing small and dense green buds. -=-=-=-The Grow=-=-=-=- during vegetation the plant stretched and was very leafy with big empty parts throughout the stem. It also showed very thin branches. right about the last week of veg, both of my plants had leaf hoppers. I spayed them down with an ecological pesticide and ever since then the plant never recuperated. Once the plant hit flowering stage she continued to develop flowers and produce high amount of resin. the plant was very sticky and had to be handled with gloves. the biggest mistake i have made in this grow was to place the plant under a very high light source that was pointed to other 2 plants. this plant got the least amount of light and was "looking for light" I can't stress it enough, please provide the sufficient amount of lights for the plants in the grow room. -=-=-=-The Chop & Dry=-=-- The plant was wet dried in the spare room with 50RH and 22C (I can't control this as the airco is running there) the produce is now in a huge Miracle pot with 4 boveda packs. hopefully the RH will come back up to 60ish. -=-=The Smoke Report=-=-- The flower feels more like a 80/20 Sativa as I'm very active, super attentive and hyper vigilant. once the high sets in the euphoric state kicks in, the body relaxes and I can focus on some gaming or late youtube. I would consider this a day smoke rather than an evening one.
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Spent 177 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
627 g
Bud wet weight per plant
110 g
Bud dry weight per plant
1
Plants
0.36
Grow Room size
Normal
Difficulty
Positive effects
Creative, Energetic, Euphoric
Positive effects
Negative effects
Insomnia
Negative effects
Taste
Citrus, Earthy, Fruity
Taste
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa

Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
The road of this plant has been a long one. but fear not when growing it. this was due to my home setup. moving forward, i had an additional grow space and the next grows will be even more successful than my others. I cant stress it enough, invest in the right equipment.
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iHateSativa
iHateSativacommentedweek 124 years ago
Looking Good 👍
timbarin
timbarincommented4 years ago
@iHateSativa, thanks!!!
DreamIT
DreamITcommentedweek 64 years ago
Enjoy growth mate 🤠👊🍀
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 04 years ago
Good Luck @timbarin
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommentedweek 134 years ago
Crushed oyster shell, charred husk would help up pH and added Potassium.
timbarin
timbarincommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, I made sure it's 6.3
timbarin
timbarincommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, I've noticed that. It's like the ph has a mind of his own? Now, Before I water I keep the water on the side for a while
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
@timbarin, your girl is generally okay. When you try to increase pH, goes slow. Once you start to add things, pH keeps going for a while and it is difficult to put on the break. Cheers
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Eauderay
Eauderaycommentedweek 214 years ago
Hello! I know El patron is a bit difficult to grow, not only she tries by any means to decide what shape she will grow into but also she is a fussy eater, as soon flowering cycle kicks in she shows some cal mag, and or stress signs, maybe it is because she uses most of her energy supply into those chunky Calyxes instead of leaves... Lol! 😁I am hoping so! Wishful thinking again? I already grew El patron. At first her buds looks lanky and small up to 5 weeks into flowering but after that they start to get bigger and bigger because she has big Calyxes! Really like those strain who makes big Calyxes like girl scout cookies... You did a good job at keeping her in check, now let's see her swell those Calyxes! Good luck for this week!
timbarin
timbarincommented4 years ago
@Eauderay, thanks for the detailed explanation i never grew this one before i will post later on the progress on this week. she is very sticky and smells very lemony
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 104 years ago
Nice plants! @timbarin
timbarin
timbarincommented4 years ago
@Ferenc, trying my best to grow them. This limited space is a problem and I learn every day how difficult it is to grow in unmonitored environment. I truly appreciate outdoor growers
GanjaBianca
GanjaBiancacommentedweek 44 years ago
Looking great!!! Good Luck!!!
timbarin
timbarincommented4 years ago
@GanjaBianca, thanks for the feedback !!! love to see the positive vibes
deFharo
deFharocommentedweek 84 years ago
Good luck growing!!✊
Smokwiri
Smokwiricommentedweek 54 years ago
hey, plant is doing good, hope it continues without problems, good luck mate 💪
CachimboDaPaz
CachimboDaPazcommentedweek 14 years ago
happy grow homie
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 254 years ago
happy harvesttime
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented4 years ago
its pretty warm here too.
timbarin
timbarincommented4 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, that is amazing! I'm currently on 30c outside and 29 indoors 😭 so the airco is helping me out
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented4 years ago
@timbarin,iam living in a well natural climated house....its never warmer than 22 degree inside even in the hottest summers
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Organic_LarF
Organic_LarFcommentedweek 253 years ago
Nice haircut btw. 🤭🤭🤭 🙏🌿🌿🌿🙏
timbarin
timbarincommented3 years ago
@Organic_LarF, yeh my head fits into the 15l 🤣🤣🤣😎🚬
Maryjane23
Maryjane23commentedweek 204 years ago
Good luck for the harvest bro!
timbarin
timbarincommented4 years ago
@Maryjane23, thanks!
TRICOMAN
TRICOMANcommentedweek 164 years ago
usted se paso con la comida en crecimiento maximo 0.8 / 1 EC y para pasar a floracion se pone a 1.2 EC saludos . La diferencia entre variedades es pequeña en EC crecimiento y también te recomiendo que compres un cal/mag
TRICOMAN
TRICOMANcommentedweek 224 years ago
También echo en falta un producto tipo bud candy que me parece incluso igual de importante que el abono base o Bloom.Saludos y con estos consejos le ira mucho mejor . SALUDOS 💪
Grow3rPT
Grow3rPTcommentedweek 244 years ago
Que maravilha, vou acompanhar :) Espero que no final tenhas umas grande colheita.. Podes passar pelo meu diário e dar a tua opinião Bons fumos
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 224 years ago
Wow very impressive 🌴😍
Grow3rPT
Grow3rPTcommentedweek 214 years ago
Muito bom mesmo irmão
Grow3rPT
Grow3rPTcommentedweek 214 years ago
Maravilha
y0shimitsu
y0shimitsucommentedweek 174 years ago
Great job man 🙌🏻 thanks for sharing 🙏🏻 enjoy 💚🌱
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