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Hi !
Ja is ideaal, deze bodem is op basis van turf en dus luchtig.
Hij droogt sneller uit waardoor je hem bijna niet teveel water kan geven, ideaal voor kleine plantjes en als ze groeien.
De ph is gebufferd door de kalk die aanwezig is in de aarde.
Onthoud dat je hierbij goed opvolgt wanneer de kleine man nood heeft aan wat voedingsstoffen, dit begint meestal rond week 2.
Succes!🌱
They're all in solo cups in my bathroom, under a CF light, as of today. Four of the five have initial leaves plus two real leaves. One is still looped over (it's the one that already had initial leaves when I planted it). I'm a bit concerned about stretching. The four seedlings range from 2 to 3 inches in height, topped by the leaves. They're doing better than the last 2 batches. The Solo cups are working well, compared to those cardboard containers. I've ordered another lamp, which will arrive tomorrow - I hope it'll help with the stretching. I'm not sure when I should move them to the tent. Some people say to do it as soon as they have their first true leaves, which would mean already. But I'm a little gun-shy, since the other two batches died after I put them in the tent. And once I put them in the tent, do I put the lights on full, and do I lower them?
I haven't updated here for a couple of weeks, and a lot has happened! Mostly good stuff. Based on advice here, I increased humidity to 70%. That helped a lot. On Feb 17, I transplanted all the plants (Astrid, Bonnie, Chris, Debbie and Elizabeth) from Solo cups into 5-gallon fabric pots. I used a 50/50 combination of Promix and CannaTerra. I started using nutrients twice weekly (Green Planet Medi 1) 3mg/gallon on Feb 22. (I gave them a tiny diluted dose on Feb 10 as well.) And then today I topped 4 of them - not Elizabeth because she looks a little rough - yellow tips and brown spots, small leaves.
At this point, 4 of the 5 look pretty good. Bonnie looks amazing.
I'm not convinced my pH meter is working. Doesn't matter what I test, it's always 7. I bought some pH Up and pH Down, and I've ordered a pH test kit for water.
Both my fans died, so the bedroom fan is in there now. Waiting for replacements from Indoor Farmer.
My soil pH levels are high - just over 7. My tap water is also high - over 7. I have a bottle of pH Down but I've never used it. Do I just add a bit to the tap water and water them? Or should I wait till the next time I'm adding nutrients? How much should I add? Thanks!
So I assume you have a Ph meter as you know the level of your water. Whether you are watering with just the water or with nutes added, you can add Ph down to the solution and mix it in before watering your plants. Word of warning, Ph down is acid and is some strong shit so please try not to get any on your bare skin and if you do, wash your hands immediately. So in line with that, only add a tiny amount to your water, mix it well and test the Ph level. If you need to add a drop more to get to your desired number, then do so. But as I say, just a drop at a time as it is very strong and will bring a Ph down quickly. It is always easy to add more if you need to, but impossible to take out if you put too much in. Drops my dude, drops!!!!!
It's been 2 weeks since I last updated. Mostly it's been going well. They're getting taller and bushier. But I worry about the pH, which is high (just over 7 according to my meter). I've only recently started trying to do something about it. I bought a little pH testing kit, and I'm adjusting the water and nutrients with pH Down to lower the pH. (I forgot yesterday and Elizabeth woke up with yellowing leaves.) The leaves tend to hang down more than I would like, but they respond well to being fed with Medi-1. I've noticed a few bugs, which I assume are fungus gnats, but I haven't seen any for a few days now. I sometimes think they're very short for their age, but then I remember they were seeds just 6 weeks ago.
My pH is high (over 7) in both my soil and water. Should I adjust the water/nutrients to the target level for the plant (6.5) or should I adjust it lower to bring it down faster? (BTW thanks to everyone who has answered my questions so far. It really helps.
If your ph is over 7.0 you need to go a little under 6.5 you need be at more like 6.0 that way it will lower the overall ph to around 6.5 which will be perfect. Just remember to keep your ph between 6.0-6.5 and things will fine.
Hey there Zoomer, usually the soil will itself buffer the pH to 6.5 because of the life inside the soil itself. Check your water on the way out of the soil also, just to make sure. I'm a big fan of "if it's not broken dont fix it" but if you do fix your pH to 6.5 do it gradually, rather than quick to avoid pH fluctuations. By the way , you should know what the pH of rainwater is if you really want to understand what you're doing. From your pictures what I can see is that you need cal mag and bloom nutrients as soon as possible. Hope this helps ! 🚀
It's been a rough week for my girls. I fed them with Green Planet Medi-1, Pro-Cal, Ocean Magic and Rezin (about half the recommended strength) and they still don't look good. Their leaves are yellowing from the bottom up, and some of them are splotchy (especially Elizabeth). I'm thinking it might be nitrogen deficiency, but they're getting nitrogen. Could it be nutrient lockout because of too-high pH levels? According to my pH meters (I bought a second one in case the first one was wrong), their pH levels are just over 7. I haven't tested the runoff water because there never is any. They're in a combination (half and half) of Promix HP and CannaTerra. I've been adjusting the pH of the water, but nothing seems to change. I bought some FoxFarm Ocean soil for my next grow...I wonder if I should transplant these ones into the FoxFarm soil?
Is this nitrogen deficiency? I've been feeding them and using pH Down but nothing changes (pH 7.2). Should I replace the soil? They're in CannaTerra mixed with Promix. I've got some FoxFarm Ocean I could move them to.
As long as the soil is above 5.5 and below pH 7.5, true nutrient "lock out" will not occur and growing in soil anywhere from 6.5 to 7.2 is fine.
Trying to remove soil and replanting them into different soil would cause so much stress to your plants, that they might just stop growing all together. Ask me how I know! They definitely won't like it and you are much better leaving them as is and working on a slow recovery process, as trying to achieve a "quick fix" will undoubtedly cause more or worse problems than if you had just left them alone.
Most of the products you are using for feeding your plants are basically supplements and not fertilizers/complete nutrients in the true sense,
Rezin is a "enhancer" with no N/P/K.
Ocean Magic is another supplement with no nitrogen or potassium, just phosphorous at 5%.
Pro-Cal is obviously a cal/mag supplement, at 1.5 and 0.5% respectively and 2.0% nitrogen and no potassium or phosphorous.
Medi one is your only real fertilizer, but at 4/3/3, it isn't going to set the world on fire.
Even mixing these you end up with a N/P/K ratio of 6/8/3 which is no where near enough potassium, adequate phosphorous and nearly adequate nitrogen.
I would be looking to add a product with a touch more nitrogen, a good supply of trace elements and a lot more potassium, something like GP3 from the same manufacturer of what you already have or go through the list of Green Planets' "base nutrients" and you should find a product that will help your plants thrive, "Back Country Blend-Grow" being another that may help.
So, leave your soil as it is now, there is no easy or fast way of reducing pH without stressing your plants and give them some extra base nutrients and they should pick up soon enough. Oh, a bit more water too, they look a bit thirsty to me.
Watering deeply to run off will help prevent nutrient salts from building up in the soil to toxic levels and your plants need an evenly moist substrate for good root development. It is far better to deep water once in a while and let the soil dry out again before deep watering again, than it is to give little/medium water frequently.
Also, water your pots from edge to edge and not just in the middle, the roots will want to be at the edges. Re-water once the top inch or so has dried out. Try to have an evenly moist soil, not too dry and not too wet. It is a bit of a learning curve, but once mastered, will be easy to understand.
Hope this helps,.........
Organoman.
This was a much better week! I took the advice offered here (thank you very much) and bought some stronger nutrients. The plants responded almost immediately. They're not droopy anymore and the yellowing and spotting has diminished. I've also started watering them more thoroughly - a litre each, twice weekly. Oh, and I tested the runoff water and it was good - about 6 pH. I think we're back on track.
How do you know when it's time to switch from veg to bloom? Mine germinated 8 weeks ago, but they had a bit of a rough start in life, so I don't mind giving them more time in veg. But is there some way of knowing when it's time? And is it possible to wait too long?
Unless you have a vertical setup or are doing some training, it usually doesn't make sense to go past 4 weeks in veg. I found this out on my most recent grow. They got to about 3 and a half feet tall, but the usable bud would have been close to the same because you're getting similar light penetration either way. I probably got some extra popcorn nugs out of it, which wasn't worth the extra 3 weeks I gave them in veg.
A lot of growers will say anytime after the first 3 weeks... I say it depends on your setup... plants will double in height and possibly some strains can triple in height.
I do HST (high stress training0 and usually switch them when they're about 20 to 24 inches.
Happy Growing! 👉😁👈
This was a good week, overall. Plants are responding well to more fertilizer, more water and better watering techniques. I'm watering them every 2 to 2 1/2 days now. Still some yellowing and speckling on leaves, but they're looking stronger, greener, more robust and happier. I switched them into bloom today. Sealed up all the light leaks yesterday, spent 5 minutes sitting in the dark with them today, dropped the max heat to 79 and the max RH to 60 and the lighting schedule to 12/12. Fertilized them all today.
First week of bloom. The girls grew quite a bit, in breadth as well as height. They look good. I think I see the white wisps at the nodes, meaning they're still girls. Everything's going well but I'm second-guessing the Infinity Cloudline's sensor. I think it's underestimating heat and humidity because the fan has been running a lot more lately and I haven't had to fill the humidifier for about 4 or 5 days. I calibrated the Cloudline lower for both heat and humidity today. I also raised the light a few inches.
Another good week. They've been growing faster in bloom than they did in veg, both in height and in width. They're definitely filling out the tent more. I think I see evidence that they're all girls, and I believe I see the beginnings of white buds. Everybody seems happy , and they smell really good. Astrid had quite a few yellow leaves that I picked up this week. And Debbie has more spacing between nodes than the others. Elizabeth (the only one that wasn't topped), has grown quite a spike. Next grow I'm going to top them more. I've been unplugging the humidifier a lot, because the Cloudline is running too much while trying to keep the humidity low. There's still quite a discrepancy between the Cloudline's humidity reading (50%) and the other unit's humidity reading (64%).
All in all, a relatively trouble-free week. I adjusted the nutrients to include more Bloom and less Grow. Everybody seems pretty happy except Astrid. Her leaves are small and the tips are clawing under. Based on what I've read, it could be nitrogen toxicity or wind burn. (She is pretty close to one of the fans.) It's interesting to note the differences between individual plants. Bonnie goes through more water than the others. Astrid claws. Debbie shot up and is the tallest now - she also has more spacing between nodes. Elizabeth used to be the runt of the litter, but she's second-tallest now. My goal for this week is to try to make Astrid happy.
The leaves on one of my plants (Astrid) are curling down and under. Her leaves are also smaller. The other plants are fine. They're all White Widow and they've all grown under the same conditions. What's wrong with Astrid? What does she want?
Do u have some times in your tent where the heat rises over 30 Celsius?
I agree could be slightly too much nitrogen. Its not at toxicity level yet tho.
I only comment bc i had this issue in my tent. I really over did the nitrogen tho. My leaves went shiny and dark green and purply. I also had the curled fan leaves but i think that was from too much heat for too long as i was figuring out my heating cooling system and how to control it.
But u know what? I still got great bud and a decent amount of it too for a first grow.
Hope this info helps. Good luck the rest of the way. i think your plants look great and even if they didnt, its incredible how they recover after the abuse we put them through
Another good and relatively uneventful week. Astrid seems to be feeling a lot better, though her leaf tips are still clawing and her buds are quite small. Elizabeth's trichomes are turning amber - everybody else's is still white. She used to be the runt of the litter, but now she's leading the pack. I've been feeding about 2 out of every 3 waterings. I feed/water them every other day.
The smells are getting more intriguing, the leaves are getting stickier, the colas are getting bigger and I'm starting to believe I'll be smoking this pretty soon-ish. It looks like we have a little nutrient burn going on. Leaf tips on most of the plants are a bit burnt. There's some yellowing, especially on Astrid, Elizabeth and Bonnie. I've dialed back the nutes. The pistils are starting to turn amber - first on Elizabeth, and now also on Debbie and Chris. The stems seem weak on Astrid - as the buds grow, I may need to stake her. Debbie is by far the tallest - about 33 inches. Elizabeth is not far behind her. I use Bonnie for the height measurements here, but she's about 5 inches shorter than Debbie. I'm surprised there is so much difference between them. For example, I think Astrid has too much nitrogen but Elizabeth maybe doesn't have enough (judging by their colour). Also, Astrid dries out faster than everybody else.
I'm worried about the yellowing of the leaves including the sugar leaves. It seems like Astrid has nitrogen toxicity. I had to stake her this week, because she was getting wobbly and floppy. The others seem stronger and healthier, but some of them are turning yellow (Elizabeth and Bonnie) and lime green (Elizabeth). Whatever's wrong with them, I feel like we're in a race to the finish line. On the plus side, the buds look good, and everybody is sticky and aromatic. Three of them (E, C and D) have pistils that are turning colour. The colas are growing. I dialed back the nutes this week. I think we just have one more week to go before flushing.
It was a good week overall, but my widows don't look great. Their stems are reddish/purple, they have a lot of yellow leaves (some of them are reddening and canoeing), and they're showing signs of both nutrient toxicity and deficits. Leaves are dropping, and two plants are struggling to support themselves and are leaning (Bonnie and Astrid). I understand some of this is normal as they approach the end of their lives. We're 2 weeks away from harvest and I've started flushing (the last feed was on Thursday). A lesson for my next grow: Don't be half-assed about nutrients - it shouldn't be guesswork. Better to follow a plan than to swing between extremes while trying to compensate for an earlier mistake.
I raised the lights a few inches this week, thinking the reddening leaves might be a symptom of light burn. And I bought a digital microscope to check the trichomes...but I can't figure out how to hold it steady and focus it while watching on my iphone and taking a pic with either the microscope or the iphone. The biggest problem is not being able to hold it steady enough while hand-held to get a decent image. I think I'll try my camera with the macro lens and see how that works for trichomes.
The plants seem to be less sticky this week - maybe because so many leaves have fallen. And I don't think the colas are growing much anymore. I feel like we're definitely winding down.
I've been flushing for 9 days now, so I'll be harvesting next weekend. All they're getting is ph'd water. Two of them (Bonnie and Astrid) are a bit floppy, so I've staked them. They're both on the right-hand side of the tent. Debbie and Elizabeth (on the left) are both strong with bigger colas. Chris is in the middle, and she's fine. There has been a lot of leaf drop in the past few weeks, and there are practically no green leaves left. All the leaves are yellow or red. I can't tell if the trichomes are cloudy or clear, so I'm not sure if I should harvest now or later. The plants are sticky, but not as sticky as they used to be (probably because there are fewer leaves). But apparently White Widow is supposed to be in flower for 9 weeks, in which case we have one week to go.
It's my first grow, so I don't have a point of comparison. But all my White Widow plants survived all my newbie mistakes, and delivered a decent harvest, so I'm happy to recommend it.
I was super happy when I smoked my first joint (just some leftover leaves) and got high. It works! Can't wait to try the buds. Everything's drying now, and then I'll cure it. I'll update this info when I jar it.
Hey zoomer! I just finished my diary with the same crop king white widow grown in promix hp using the same nutes.. we even have the same fans lol only difference is the light. I had some real nutrient and ph problems with the widow for most of its early life and what I found worked best was feeding at 6.0ph and letting it drift up so it gets the full range of nutrient absorption. Also were very prone to calcium deficiency so 3-4ml/g of calmag was essential, keeping in mind im using RO water, your tap water may be higher in calcium already so its possible to use less. For watering the best results I had was whenever the pots are nearly fully dried out and lightweight id water to 20% runoff. They usually took 3-5 days to fully dry out but some dry time is good for them as the roots eat up oxygen. I wanna see some big buds at the end of this diary zoom! Goodluck.
@CRiSPrGrow, I did buy and add Pro-Cal like you suggested. (But I didn't add Bloom because I wasn't sure what it was, and they're still in veg.) I'll give one of them enough water to get some run-off and I'll test it. Thank you.
@Zoomer, try my advice first , since you didn’t follow it it got worse , but nothing else changed so my advice is still the same , does that make sense ?
Looks like a nice finish coming on. Im at the same week with my widow as yours, colas look about the same. Sticky covered goodness. Love the zzz I get off of them too. Great strain! Happy harvest to you!
Hey zoomer, I'd cut the flora gro down to 1ml/g for the rest of the grow. what your seeing there is nitrogen toxicity. I use this feed chart as a guide and go no higher than 75% what it suggests. https://www.sensigarden.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/GH-Flora-series-drain-to-waste.jpg
You got it this time Zoomer! if you're bored check out "from seed to stoned" video for germination on youtube. If you don't have a dome he's got a nifty little trick where he pops a sandwich bag or a clear plastic cup over the seedling to get the same high humidity effect as a dome. it may help. Goodluck!
Zoomer
