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10 L
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Week 1. Vegetation
7 years ago
4 cm
24 hrs
26 °C
No Smell
30 %
24 °C
2 L
8.5 cm
Pictures are coming soon (during the day) 12/4 Day X - Planted #1 and #2 in the morning and they were placed in my bathroom. Gave them 15ml water each. 13/4 Day 1 #1 had come up from the soil in the morning. Put #1 under LED - full effect. I still have the plastic bags on with some moist inside. #2 has still not come up and it's 11am. #2 came up in the afternoon I turned of the LED light just before midnight. I had the LED on a distance of 45cm. 14/4 Day 2 - LED lamp on at 07.15 Temperatures inside the plastic bag is around 30 celsius. #1 and #2 have got their first beginning of "the real leafs". They are very tiny though. I sprayed the inside of the plastic bag on both plants and put them in the window with the LED on, in the wait for more natural light. Shadow in my apartment until after lunch. I used the direct sunlight from 14 and the rest of the day. My windows have Thermal insulation and that is something I don't know effects the growth. The first real leafs are starting to grow. On one of the plants I could see a little bit of yellow color on the leafs. I moved them to a smaller room 5.30pm and turned on the LED. I turned the LED of around midnight. 15/4 Day 3 - LED lamp on at 10.00 #1 - 3,5cm tall #2 - 3,3cm tall Temperatures inside the plastic bag is around 30 celsius. Took away some water drops from the leafs and I'm still having the plastic bags with some moist on. As this is my first time, I don't have a tent with accessories. I also don't have LED that is made for growing but hopefully this LED will work for another 1-2 weeks. I have now got a timer so I will be going for 20-4 light schedule. I took away the plastic bags this morning and now I have had around 24-27 celsius and humidity around 28%. I also got a fan and tried it out. Will be using that later on. No water today as well. Will be doing watering tomorrow morning. Evening measurement #1 - width of first leafs 1.3cm #2 - width of first leafs 1.5cm - 16/4 Day 4 - LED lamp on at 06.00am and off 02.00am - Morning measurement #1 - 3,6cm tall and width of first leafs 1.5cm #2 - 3,7cm tall and width of first leafs 1.9cm - Water: 30ml each (in a circle around the plant so the roots will work more to find the water). I could se that the leafs were pointing slightly downwards before watering, or at least more flat than before. Let's see if the water will change this. - Morning Temperature: 24.9 celsius Humidity: 29% - Evening measurement #1 - 4,0cm tall and width of first leafs 2,0cm #2 - 4,3cm tall and width of first leafs 2,2cm - Evening Temperature: 25.8 celsius Humidity: 23% I also lowered the LED height from 17cm to 11cm - 17/4 Day 5 - LED lamp on at 06.00am and off 02.00am (Fan on all the time but just so the plants moves a tiny tiny bit when it passes) - Morning measurement #1 - 4,0cm tall and width of first leafs 2,0cm (0.5 growth on width since yesterday morning) #2 - 4,3cm tall and width of first leafs 2,7cm (0.8 growth on width since yesterday morning) - Morning Temperature: 24.9 celsius Humidity: 22% - Water: Nothing today - 18/4 Day 6 - LED lamp now on 24h (Fan on all the time but just so the plants moves a tiny tiny bit when it passes) - Morning measurement #1 - 4,0cm tall and width of first leafs 3,5cm (1,5 growth on width since yesterday) #2 - 4,3cm tall and width of first leafs 4,0cm (1,3 growth on width since yesterday) - Morning Temperature: 25celsius Humidity: 29% - Water: Both plants were completely dry this morning. It's been 2 days since I gave them 30ml clean water each. Today I gave them 45ml each. Watering around them as close to the side of the pot as possible so the roots will work themselves out towards the sides. Changed lamp to distance from 6.5 to 8.5 to see of nodes distance will change - 19/4 Day 7 - LED lamp now on 24h (Fan off during the day) - Morning measurement #1 - 4,4cm tall and width of first leafs 3,8cm (0,3 growth on width since yesterday) #2 - 4,5cm tall and width of first leafs 4,5cm (0,5 growth on width since yesterday) - Morning Temperature: 25celsius Humidity: 29% - Water: This morning I checked again the soil and it was completely dry even if I watered them 45ml each yesterday. So today I watered them 60ml each. Gave them 45ml each in the evening so the total water for today was 90ml each.
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Week 2. Vegetation
7 years ago
7 cm
24 hrs
22 °C
No Smell
55 %
20 °C
10 L
80 cm
20/4 Day 8 - LED lamp now on 24h - Morning measurement #1 - 4,4cm tall and width of first leafs 5,4cm (1,6 growth on width since yesterday) #2 - 4,8cm tall and width of first leafs 5,5cm (1,0 growth on width since yesterday) - Morning Temperature: 26celsius Humidity: 35% - Water: Nothing - 21/4 Day 9 - LED lamp now on 24h - Morning measurement #1 - 5 cm tall and width of first leafs 6cm (0,4 growth on width since yesterday) #2 - 5,4cm tall and width of first leafs 6,6cm (0,9 growth on width since yesterday) - Morning Temperature: 27celsius Humidity: 29% - Water: Morning - 100ml each - It's about 36 hours since last watering - 22/4 Day 10 - LED lamp now on 24h - Morning measurement I won't be taking notes of the measurement for now. - Had them in the sun for most time of the day - Morning Temperature: 25celsius Humidity: 25% - Water: Morning - 150ml each. They weren't super dry this morning but still a lot of water gone and very little moist soil. - 23/4 Day 11 - LED lamp now on 24h - Morning Temperature: 25celsius Humidity: 25% - Water: Morning - No water - Some problem with tacoing. Tried to turn of the fan. Didn't really help. Moved the LED higher. maybe helped a little bit but will try more tomorrow. - 24/4 Day 12 - Turned off lamp 8am-10.30am (2,5 hours). The plants got some natural light but I wanted to see if they have been "stressed" from all the light cause the leafs are still tacoing. Check latest photos. - Morning Temperature: 26celsius Humidity: 25% - Water: Morning - 100ml to plant #2 at 6.40pm. Now it feels heavy in weight and this is a test to see if it needed water or if it's something else that makes the tacoing. No water for plant #1 so far - 25/4 Day 13 - Gave the plants no light during 4 hours in the morning. - Morning Temperature: 26celsius Humidity: 25% - 63cm between plants and LED now to see if it helps. - Water: Morning - 100ml to plant #1 at 1pm. Now it feels heavy in weight and this is a test to see if it needed water or if it's something else that makes the tacoing. No water for plant #2 - 26/4 Day 14 - Yesterday evening I got the tent so from now on I can finally control the humidity and temperature. - Morning Temperature: 21.8 celsius Humidity: 55% - 80 cm between plants and LED - T R A N S P L A N T A T I O N: Today was the day when my girls got new homes 😄 It was a rollercoaster ride. Even if I had watered the small pots a while before transplantation, the soil in them almost fell apart when I took them out of the pots. The roots looked good thought. White and healthy. They covered the bottom on both plants and nothing on the sides of the plant inside the pot. I really hope they won't have too much of a shock from the transplantation. I did this today around 10am. Didn't measure the amount of water this time, just went on feeling 😎 Fans are also spinning inside the tent. Have a look at the pictures.
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MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFroststarted grow question 7 years ago
Please check my latest photos above. Because of taco leaves/curled, I turned off the fan last night and also raised the LED to about 16cm above the plant. When I checked in the morning. All the leaves on both my plants was raised up and still had curled sides.
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DudeGrowsWeedanswered grow question 7 years ago
This looks like light burn to me. Your LED still looks too close to me. Have you checked with Manufacturer of your LED for recommend distance? Mine recommended 18-24”. But I was having light burn also. So now I have them 30” away - no more light burn. My suggestion would be to raise your light. Good luck! 👍
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Week 3. Vegetation
7 years ago
9 cm
24 hrs
24 °C
6
Weak
55 %
23 °C
10 L
50 cm
Nutrients 2
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 1 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 1 mll
28/4 Day 16 - LED lamp now on 24h - Morning measurement #1 - 8,5cm tall #2 - 9,5cm tall - Morning Temperature: 25celsius Humidity: 55% - Water: Morning - No water Summary for the day: So the transplantation which I did 2 days ago probably went ok. The growth might have slowed down a bit but everything looks normal. Started to try out LST today. I have no idea if I'm doing right and if they are actually ready for LST but I'm very gentle to the little girls.. I promise 🙌 - 30/4 Day 18 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Morning - 600ml for each plant. Summary for the day: So it's been 4 days since the transplantation and the plants got water. Today I gave them 600ml each. Did some more bending with LST. - 1/5 Day 19 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Nothing Summary for the day: I changed the lamp from 60cm to 50cm above the plants and did some more LST. - 2/5 Day 20 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Nothing Summary for the day: I changed the lamp from 50cm back to 60cm above the plants and did some more LST. Is it really already going into bloom phase? - 3/5 Day 21 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Plant #1 got 800ml water and Plant #2 got 1L of water. (Both got 1ml Sensi Bloom A & 1ml Sensi Bloom B / L) Summary for the day: I changed the lamp from 50cm back to 60cm above the plants and did some more LST. Is it really already going into bloom phase? - 6/5 Day 24 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Both plants got 1L of water with nutes. Summary for the day: I still do some LST and today I'm installing the new LED. Will try to have it at 35-40cm. - 9/5 Day 27 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Nothing (still a little bit wet... especially the bigger pot) Summary for the day: I still do some LST. LED in 40cm full effect. -
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Week 4. Vegetation
7 years ago
26 cm
24 hrs
24 °C
6
Weak
55 %
23 °C
10 L
35 cm
Nutrients 2
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 1 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 1 mll
10/5 Day 28 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Both plants got 1L of water with nutes. Summary for the day: I still do some LST but truing to do less and focusing on spreading the tops. LED in 40cm full effect. Did some defoliation today but not sure if I'm doing right. - 12/5 Day 30 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Both plants got 1L of water with nutes increased to 1.5ml because it's been 10 days since I started with giving them 1ml each time they got water. Now I started to see they drink much more. Last time it was 3 days between watering. This time it was only 1 day since they got 1L water. Maybe increase 1L to 1.5L next time. Summary for the day: I still do some LST but truing to do less and focusing on spreading the tops. LED in 40cm full effect. Did some defoliation today as well. - 14/5 Day 32 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Nothing Maybe increase 1L to 1.5L next time. Summary for the day: I still do some LST but truing to do less and focusing on spreading the tops. LED in 40cm full effect. Did some defoliation today as well. - 15/5 Day 33 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Both plants got 1L of water with 1.5ml nutes x2 (A+B)
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Week 5. Flowering
7 years ago
34 cm
28 °C
6
Weak
48 %
25 °C
10 L
30 cm
Nutrients 2
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 1.5 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 1.5 mll
17/5 Day 35 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Both plants got 1L of water with 1.5ml nutes x2 (A+B) - 19/5 Day 37 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Both plants got 1L of water with 1ml nutes x2 (A+B) instead of 1.5ml x2 cause of a little note burn. Summary for the day: No LST anymore. - 20/5 Day 38 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Nothing Summary for the day: No LST anymore. Length of Plant #1 is now 32,5cm and Plant #2 is now 35,5cm - 22/5 Day 40 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: The leaves on both plants has been hanging down the last 1-2 days so I gave them 1.5L of water instead of the 1l I gave before. Also with nutes. 1ml/L so 1.5ml x2 on each plant cause of the increased water from 1 to 1.5L. Summary for the day: No LST anymore.
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Week 6. Flowering
7 years ago
42 cm
24 hrs
28 °C
6
Weak
48 %
25 °C
10 L
1 L
40 cm
Nutrients 2
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 1 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 1 mll
26/5 Day 44 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Gave them 1.5L of water. Also with nutes. 1ml/L so 1.5ml x2 on each plant cause of the increased water from 1 to 1.5L. Summary for the day: The leaves on the tops were making a little bit of "tacoing". I raised the LED to around 40cm from 30cm to see if it helps. Length of Plant #1 is now 37 cm and Plant #2 is now 42 cm - 29/5 Day 47 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Gave them 1.5L of water. Also with nutes. 1ml/L so 1.5ml x2 on each plant cause of the increased water from 1 to 1.5L. Summary for the day: They are still bit taco leaves on the top and also some tiny nuteburn but nothing that I think is a problem. This time I waited two days instead of one between watering times. A lot of trichomes are being created on plant #2 and some are starting to show up on plant #1. Length of Plant #1 is now X cm and Plant #2 is now X cm -
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Week 7. Flowering
7 years ago
42 cm
24 hrs
28 °C
6
Normal
38 %
27 °C
10 L
1 L
35 cm
Nutrients 2
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 1 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 1 mll
31/5 Day 49 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Gave them 1.5L of water. Also with nutes. 1ml/L so 1.5ml x2 on each plant cause of the increased water from 1 to 1.5L. Summary for the day: Much more trichomes now on both plants. The bigger one is one step ahead though. They have stopped growing in height. Length of Plant #1 is now 37 cm and Plant #2 is now 42 cm. Leaves at the bottom has gotten yellow. I cut them off. - 3/6 Day 52 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: They got water yesterday as usual. Summary for the day: Today I had big problems with keeping the temperatures and humidity right. It's been around 29-30 celsius the whole day with humidity of 45-58% and I can't manage to make it go down. This is because it's so hot outside. - 4/6 Day 53 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Gave them 1.5L of water. Also with nutes. 1ml/L so 1.5ml x2 on each plant Summary for the day: They have stopped growing in height but getting fat now :) - - 6/6 Day 55 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: So today I actually flushed the bigger plant with clean water (22L). I did this because I was afraid of a "lock-down" in the plant. All leaves started to get "brighter" but apparently it was probably just fine. The PH-level measured was 5.5-6.0 and I'll check again tomorrow to see if there's a big change. The smaller plant got 2L of clean water. Summary for the day: Temperature is around 22-24 celsius and humidity 34-50%. I had a little problem to keep it stable so I hope I'll managed that now. -
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MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFroststarted grow question 7 years ago
Please check my latest comment at the bottom. I have the questions summarised there for a friend but I think he's out of town so any help that I could get would be very much appreciated. It's regarding; Trichomes ripe, harvest, flushing and humidity between flowering and harvest
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BigDaddyKanswered grow question 7 years ago
Humidity at 30% is too low , you need to look at the Vapour pressure deficit , and use the corresponding amounts , roughly 60% at 28C , test the runoff ph and EC , also I would add some cal mag to the feed at 0.5 ml per l . Flushing I do 2 weeks in soil , and hydro , drying can be done at most humidity levels at temperatures above 20C ,as the temperature goes up you NEED more humidity 👍
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Week 8. Flowering
7 years ago
42 cm
24 hrs
28 °C
6
Strong
40 %
24 °C
10 L
1 L
45 cm
Nutrients 2
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 1 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 1 mll
- 8/6 Day 57 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: No water today since I flushed 2 days ago one of the plants with 22L of plain water. Now after it wasn't necessary I think but it didn't hurt the plant. The other one got 2L of water. Summary for the day: - 9/6 Day 58 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: Gave them 2L of water. Also with nutes. 1ml/L for each A & B. Summary for the day: The bigger plant now has a lot more trichomes than the smaller one. I don't know if the flush maybe actually helped a bit but it looks very happy now except that it's still more brighter color on all the leaves and still some taco leaves on the top. I increased the distance between the plants top a bit. Length of Plant #1 is now 40 cm and Plant #2 is now 44 cm. - 12/6 Day 61 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: They got 2L of water without nutes this time. Started to do (Nutes-NoNutes-Nutes-NoNutes....) Summary for the day: It's been around 29 celsius and 34-40% humidity last two days so the VPD has been around 2.06 (Danger Zone). It's supposed to be around 1.46 in the late flower phase. Check this great diagram out: http://www.just4growers.com/media/23631/vpd_2degree.gif Later this night I managed to correct it a little bit so this morning (day 62 - 13/6) the temperature is around 24 celsius and the humidity is 37%. It's now 1.52 which is good. -
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Week 9. Flowering
7 years ago
42 cm
24 hrs
27 °C
6
Strong
40 %
22 °C
10 L
1 L
40 cm
Nutrients 2
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 1 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 1 mll
14/6 Day 63 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: They got 2L of water with nutes this time. Started to do (Nutes-NoNutes-Nutes-NoNutes....) Summary for the day: - 18/6 Day 67 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: They got 2L of water without nutes this time. Summary for the day: - 20/6 Day 69 - LED lamp now on 24h - Water: They got 2L of water without nutes. Summary for the day: -
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Week 10. Flowering
7 years ago
42 cm
24 hrs
25 °C
6
Strong
40 %
22 °C
10 L
1 L
40 cm
So the pictures from day 72 shows how the trichomes and calyx looked the day before harvest. I'm looking for a more head-high than body-high. I hope it wasn't too early for harvest. Update (26/6) I had the RH to 58-60% since Sunday night and today it's Tuesday lunch. It smells a lot of cut grass and I guess that's just the Chlorophyll breaking down. But I decided to lower the RH to around 54% for 1-2 days and then put it back up to around 60%. I felt the buds today and they are still very soft. Slow and nice drying is the key 👌
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Week 10. Harvest
7 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
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This was my first grow ever and I think it went pretty well. The twins are both good for both day and night time I would say. Very nice taste and I've still only tried after the drying part. Now they are curing in cVault containers with Boveda 62%. I might update later on how they taste and the effect after a couple of months. Have a good one and hope you can find something useful from this
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175 g
Bud wet weight per plant
40.1 g
Bud dry weight per plant
2
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0.36
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Creative, Hungry, Uplifted
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Dry mouth
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Citrus, Earthy, Sweet
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Sleepy
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Indica
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Ganjalf
Ganjalfcommentedweek 37 years ago
sup bro, yeah for LST you gotta bend the entire stem not just the leaves. So in your case, you pull between 2nd and 3rd node in one direction. And in order to secure the plant, you make an 'anchor' by securing the bottom-most part of the plant by slightly pulling it in the opposite direction. This is so that you dont accidentally pull your entire plant out of the soil. Check tutorials for clarification You want light to hit your first and second node sidegrowth, they will then grow upwards and longer. This way they also become 'important' branches and will produce colas as well. When they are long enough, you pull them away from each other so that they each have their own space to grow
Ganjalf
Ganjalfcommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost, u good bro, they should be done in 2 weeks or so. Earliest maybe in a week
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@Ganjalf, Hey.. please check out the latest pictures from today if you have the time. I'm asking around to see what people here think of the time until harvest. I have taken photos of both plants. What is interesting is that the bigger plant has more trichomes but less cloudy ones than the smaller one. The smaller one has always been a couple of days slower in the progress. Let me know what you think :) I'm going on vacation tomorrow and will be back on the 17th so that'll be in about a week from now. I have a friend that will feed them but I do hope they won't be ready for harvest until I'm back. Have a great day
Ganjalf
Ganjalfcommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost, hmm just by instinct I would say its because they dont have enough nutes. There arent any burn symptoms, and leaves are pretty flat and nice, not clawed. You could flush once and then give a feed, if it gets worse. Try adding a bit more first though, and see what happens after a day or two. Also, try to get the temp down bro! Its not necessarily bad, but high temps can cause the buds to be more fluffy and leafy. 24 is ideal!
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Ganjalf
Ganjalfcommentedweek 17 years ago
2. you tie a pipe cleaner or garden tie or sth soft to one branch and bend the plant over. have a look online, there are many tutorials, it'll give you an idea. 3. 110w is okay for one plant I believe, I suggest looking into LED growlights especially since you re going to have two plants. Dont know much about tungsten lights so I'm just looking at the actual watts. I'm not really an expert on LED's so have a look on some forums aobut that and how many watts for two plants. There are many suggestions out there on which LED's are good, just find one which matches your needs, so to plants and the size of your growspace. The more watts the stronger the plant and faster the growth!
Ganjalf
Ganjalfcommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost, sorry bro, I am not that experienced with nutes :/ but yeah for bloom nutes you gotta wait until the stretch i think, so maybe in 2 weeks
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@Ganjalf, Yes I'll do my best ;) I already asked another guy here this question but you are so quick on answering so I'll ask you as well: I found this really interesting post: https://www.autoflower.net/forums/threads/tangs-easy-auto-feeding-schedule.47290/ I posted a picture of the Sensi Bloom. Wondering if I need to wait and for how long before I can use that. I have transplanted in Gold Label Special Mix Gold Edition Premium or something and I guess it will have some nutrients in it right? In that case it means I must wait with Sensi Bloom?
Ganjalf
Ganjalfcommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost, I read it 😂 no worries. But okay, now youre in a bigger pot so you gotta be extra careful with watering, especially with soil. There are two things you can do actually, a bit later when shes bigger, you should try to pick up the pot and get used to the weight before and after watering. After a while you'll be able to notice when shes dry because she will be much lighter. The second thing you can do if youre unsure about watering, is wait until the leaves droop a little when they are thirsty. After you water them they will recover very fast and the leaves become straight again, maybe 10-15 min.
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JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNScommentedweek 77 years ago
Listen... your plant is just moving some Nitrogen. It's called the die back , she is sacrificing the bottom to save the top. From what I have read from your nutrients inputs, you have given the amount of A and B that is good enough for seedlings... technically you should be around 3 to 4 ml/l of each at this stage of her life cycle... I don't see any tips burns , symptoms of over feeding. Neither purples stems and petiole, the first symptom of a Mag problem.... and pH lockout doesn't exist ☝️ So... after diagnosis... its just a die back , it usually happens to new growers when they switch from Grow nootz to Bloom nootz as the same time than they switched their light cycle... No need to freak out, Mother Nature is smart , your plant won't die suddenly from a day to another, and as it is almost done just keep on doing like your doing , she will loose one leaf after another slowly till the end of her life ... you won't need to flush it like salt farmers does , just give it plain pH'd water for the last week 😉
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNScommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost,Yes, give them plain water between every feeding, following a Feed Water Feed W F ... schedule until the second last week, as the last week will be with plain water only. The flush won't be necessary as you didn't nuke them during all their life cycle, the last week of plain water will be enough.
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, So keep giving them 1ml A and 1ml B for each liter water until last week? No flush needed? And as I said before, I don't have anything to adjust the waters PH-level so it will be tapped water last week.
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNScommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost, just keep on feeding her like your doing until last week, and just plain pH'd water in the last week . AN pH perfect is supposed to set your pH in the right range, so technically you don't need to adjust your pH . pH 6.0 is alright 👍
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JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNScommentedweek 77 years ago
P.S: Just let it do her thing, tug off the leaves when they are totally yellow, not before she has finished otherwise she will start to use the Nitrogen from another new leaf 😉
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNScommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost, well, you can enjoy your holidays my friend... don't worry they will wait for daddy to come back 😊 It's just 7 days 😄
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, Hey.. please check out the latest pictures from today if you have the time. I'm asking around to see what people here think of the time until harvest. I have taken photos of both plants. What is interesting is that the bigger plant has more trichomes but less cloudy ones than the smaller one. The smaller one has always been a couple of days slower in the progress. Let me know what you think :) I'm going on vacation tomorrow and will be back on the 17th so that'll be in about a week from now. I have a friend that will feed them but I do hope they won't be ready for harvest until I'm back. Have a great day
Mr_Positivo
Mr_Positivocommentedweek 97 years ago
Hi Mag, Looking good, brother. Your grow is coming along nicely. Try vaping a nug or two over the next 2 weeks, watching your trichomes to figure out what trichome combination provides the effect that suits you. Some of your buds are ready now, some are not. Personally, I would hold out for another week or two. Look for a bigger bud swell and a higher percentage of cloudy trichomes.. There is a high percentage of amber with some of your buds.A selective bud harvest may be in order. Best wishes.
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@Mr_Positivo, I have the Arizer Solo 2 and me and my friend just tried a tiny tiny one from the smaller plant man.... that was like skyrocket :D
Mr_Positivo
Mr_Positivocommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost, You're welcome. Happy to throw in my 2 cents. The beauty of vaping, Mag, is you don't need to dry the bud to test a budlet or two. The vape does the drying for you. I use an Arizer extreme q to good effect and highly recommend this procedure.
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
Thanks @Mr_Positivo, :) Do I need to do a fully dry process of that mug to be able to vaping it? I agree with you on waiting a little bit more. I wish I could do a selective harvest but that will be a problem. I'm going to use the same grow tent for the drying. I want the tent to have a temperature of around 21-22 celsius with a humidity of 50-60% during 7-10 days of drying. I don't think a selective harvest will work to combine the remaining buds with the drying process because of the temp and humidity :/ Have a good one and thanks for joining the conversation of my first grow ever 😃
Mr_Positivo
Mr_Positivocommentedweek 107 years ago
Mag, Congrats on an excellent result. Loving your photos, both macro shots and portrait photography. Your drying format however, stringing up each branch individually, is a standout diary feature and one for the record books. This handy work would make George Nakashima proud.. ;-)👍👊👊
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@Mr_Positivo, Thank you so much! Really appreciate that :) So you think I went a little bit too far with that stringing? 😅
growdoctordc
growdoctordccommentedweek 107 years ago
@bobo420 wrote “The longer the drying process the 'smoother'/better tasting the bud” This cannot be overstated. It is the reason for a recently harvested plant as never before, in the hopes of better taste: uprooted the entire root ball, bagged it tight to the stalk so soil can’t fall out, and hung it dirt and all upside down. It’s been 6 days and the flowers are still quite moist in a dark 50%RH room. #experimentation Lol
DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeedcommentedweek 27 years ago
This looks like light burn to me. Your LED still looks too close to me. Have you checked with Manufacturer of your LED for recommend distance? Mine recommended 18-24”. But I was having light burn also. So now I have them 30” away - no more light burn. My suggestion would be to raise your light. Good luck! 👍
DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeedcommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost,OK, if your soil is 5.5 I wouldn’t worry about ph’ing your water. The ph of the soil should gradually increase as you water/feed.
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@DudeGrowsWeed, I haven't done any ph'ing at all. I guess my tap water is around 7-8 but the soil from Gold Label is around 5.5-6 I think.
DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeedcommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost, 5.5 is fine, but you don’t want it to go lower than that. Are you ph’ing your water down? If so, what is your ph when watering/feeding?
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Ganjalf
Ganjalfcommentedweek 17 years ago
30 degrees is quite warm I believe, I think the in the 20s is safer. As for the yellow, I think it's normal, sometimes it happens. It will disappear when the leaves grow bigger. I think the stem is alright, but if they keep stretching too much then you need to lower your lights more. As long as your LED isnt super powerful and frying her, you can put it a bit closer. And as for growth, she seems to be doing fine. It's slow as everything is happening below, and once the second set of leaves are somewhat big, she will take off!
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@Ganjalf, That's good news and I'm glad you want to guide me. Some questions I've put together below when you have the time :) - 1. Is 28% humidity ok? - 2. LST'ing for autoflowers? I've hear some people says their aint time and doesn't really help cause you don't have the control over flowering state when it begins? - 3. I now have 6.5cm distance from top of plants and LED. I've had it since last night so that will be 5 hours of light in that distance now. I don't see any strong yellow/brown spots on the leafs so far, This must mean it's ok right? - 4. Regarding the LST'ing - The 60x60 tent is 120cm in height. How do you think is a good way to think about that regarding to the size of the tent? -. 5. I have two options for pots. Which one would you recommend? Option 1: Capacity 10L - Width 25,5 cm - Height 29,5 cm https://shopcdn.textalk.se/shop/17746/art46/h7561/17097561-origpic-e38454.jpg?max-width=1440&max-height=1440&quality=50 - Option 2: Capacity 11,4L - Width 27 cm - Height 21 cm https://shopcdn.textalk.se/shop/17746/art46/h6745/7096745-origpic-f44024.jpg?max-width=1440&max-height=1440&quality=50 - 6. I'm using a LED lamp now but as I've written before. That LED is something I use in my work (cinematographer). The price of it as probably over 1200 dollars though but that was a while ago I bought it. Should I buy a new one specifically for this? Any one that you could recommend?
Ganjalf
Ganjalfcommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost on a second note, I think this tent will be enough for two plants. What youre going to want to do is start LST'ing at the end of week 2 or so, I'll try guiding you. It's also a good way to learn this technique, and it will allow you to space the plants. Also, LST is important since your bubblegum strain can reach up to a meter (in the best circumstance), which is too close. We need to have the plant around 60 cm which is possible with LST :) If you have a 11L(3gal) pot laying around, try it and see if you can fit two. in the space. If it's too big then try it with 11L square shaped pots.
Ganjalf
Ganjalfcommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost, I wouldnt know about how many plants as I only grow one at a time :( try to find info on closet growing online, I am sure there are many tutorials :) and yes normally when you transplant it should be the same soil since that's what your plant is used to, you want it to feel familiar in its new home.
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MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommentedweek 17 years ago
So a friend told me to take the plastic bags off that I’ve had on for 4 days now ! Not needed. Just bigger risk of getting rot problems ( Fungus , bacterial )
bobo420
bobo420commentedweek 107 years ago
Congratulations on the harvest ;)
bobo420
bobo420commented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost, I'd go with the standard, maybe a few degrees more but would keep an eye on the buds and the air circulation
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@bobo420, Ok. So what RH would you recommend for me now when there are hot days like this? Around 25-26 celsius in the grow tent?
bobo420
bobo420commented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost, from what I can see those are the values just for when the plant is growing. the ranges you say ~21C with 50-55%RH is right and that's what I do. at first 2 days 21C with 45-50%RH then 19-20C with 50-55%RH for the rest of the days. Higher humidity and higher temps could cause mold/mildew issues. The longer the drying process the 'smoother'/better tasting the buds
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CaciqueCayacoa
CaciqueCayacoacommentedweek 97 years ago
Superb work, beautiful fade on them girls, keep it up.
CaciqueCayacoa
CaciqueCayacoacommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost, sure. I also look at bud swelling and development, specially if I already know what she can do, ripeness of the pistils, color changes in the whole plant and overall structure. I also listen, surprisingly they have a lot to say, one just has to pay attention 😉
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@CaciqueCayacoa, ok. Interesting :) Do you have any examples or hints on what else to look for in these coming days except the trichomes?
CaciqueCayacoa
CaciqueCayacoacommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost, I'd say to rely less on trichomes and listen more to what the plants will tell you, it takes time but once you understand you will be harvesting fully developed plants with their full potential on display. Trichomes are just one part of the whole picture and not so reliable as to whether they're ready or not.
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Tryhard
Tryhardcommentedweek 77 years ago
magnesium deficiency if the pH at the roots is too low, especially in hydro. That is because when the pH of your root zone is not in the correct range, your cannabis cannot properly absorb magnesium through the roots. Often with this deficiency, the magnesium is present, but the roots cannot absorb the magnesium properly due to an improper pH. Therefore it is very important to maintain the correct pH I’m pretty certain go to my red poison diary last weeks look at my bottom leafs have had this same problem It starts with the older bottoms fan leafs and spreads if you don’t stop it can kill your plant all together also it can stump growth I would suggest flushing her for any salt build up them leafs will not go back and will stay that way now but if fixed it won’t spread
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@@Tryhard, great. so when I flush her. It's 30L because I have a 10L pot. then wait until she dries up. then keep doing flushes until harvest or after the first flush, just keep watering as normal but without nutes? Thanks
Tryhard
Tryhardcommented7 years ago
@MagnoliaFrost,I would do in case there is a build up of salt some where and when my redpoison was ph was 5.6 when I had this issue I asked bigdaddyk at times he said flush I was at about same stage has you are
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@@Tryhard, I just checked the PH. It's 5.5-6.0 in the plant with yellow leaves. But I'm thinking of flushing cause I have 2-3 weeks left until harvest. What do you think?
Quexos
Quexoscommentedweek 107 years ago
Nice harvest! That was a lot of quantity for two little autos. Buds and manicuring looks really professional. I have never seen dry sifting before. Are you trying to separate kief from buds?
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@Quexos, 🙌🏽☀️ Thanks man! Well I did put in a lot of hours for the trimming so i hope it looks pro ;) yes the dry sifting was to get out Kief from mostly the sugar leaves. I just bounced the buds before trimming to get some extra Kief but besides that I got 1.4g just from the sugar leaves
Mr_Positivo
Mr_Positivocommentedweek 107 years ago
Mag, Looks like you have sifting under control already, no? Great looking result. 👍
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@Mr_Positivo, oh yes ;)
Fun_Growin
Fun_Growincommentedweek 107 years ago
My man, you did wonderfully!!! And your first Grow you got your plant to truly "autum" now do 2 more grow and you will have it down.. although you seem to be a fast learner 😬
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@Fun_Growin, Thanks man :) Yes it turned out really good
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmercommentedweek 107 years ago
She's a stunner. Congrats mate, great harvest 💪✌️🐺
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
Quexos
Quexoscommentedweek 107 years ago
Huzzah! You have a great harvest there! Give her a good cure and enjoy! For the next grow, remember how you grew this plant and apply that knowledge. While you are growing a beautiful new plant, you will have this really nice looking bud to smoke.
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@Quexos, Thanks man! Oh yes I will definitely do that! Have an amazing day
Ganjalf
Ganjalfcommentedweek 97 years ago
still 2 weeks left at least!
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@Ganjalf, Check your chat :)
Ganjalf
Ganjalfcommentedweek 17 years ago
1 you gotta check humidity online, I dont have a tool to measure this so I have no idea 2 you'll probably need even a bit LST especially if you want to grow two plants in the same tent. LST wont slow her down if you're gentle enough, it all depends on how you do it 3 what is the strength of your LED? In true watts, not the equivalent 4 your strain grows up to 60-100 cm. Depending on your light and how the plant grows, we will see. 5 you know what you can do, you can take one of each pot :D and you can compare how they grow, see which one better fits your style. Both are good 6 do you have the name of LED? Whats important are the amount of true watts and the kind of light (spectrum). Most growers buy LED grow lights which mix red and blue spectrums specifically targeted at photosynthesis.
MagnoliaFrost
MagnoliaFrostcommented7 years ago
@Ganjalf, 1. Ok I'll do that. But even if it's too low which I think it is. I can't really do anything about it until I have a tent. I'll be able to go an buy it next week. 2. Yes. Lets go through how I should do that? I guess I need something to hold them down? 3. Max. power draw (Watts): 110 Comparative output: 575W HMI 2kW Tungsten Softlight Check these pictures below for the specs of my led. It's a bit heavy to hang up I think. Weight: 3.2 kg (around 7 pounds) - https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fryanblackwood.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F12%2Fastra-1x1.png&hash=1b4fbeefec6e981ca390418760901377 - https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.litepanels.com%2Fdam%2Fjcr%3Aa5dd4700-43a1-43a3-a1d2-5ab3c1dc6d06%2FAstraDaylight_thumbnail.jpg&hash=741bed996979505c66194b16f04e136a - https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.litepanels.com%2Fdam%2Fjcr%3A122b1b3c-bc69-421d-92b7-43cd20471c5a%2FAstraDaylight0txtlum_thumbnail.jpg&hash=8a219753cbc23b9c01c24532b2b01272 - 4. Cool 5. Perfect. I'll do that. 6. See answer above :)
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