@toaster37, yeah but usually i just pinch it until i feel it gives way, if it needs to be tied it gets tied... i don't usually try to get it to break all the way. i have been going with "heavy LST, light HST" as the mantra. if you find the pics of that big CBD Crew plant, you might be able to tell -- you could actually see my fingerprints on the manifold in white against the black/purple.
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