I’m growing 4 NL x BC Big Bud...1 I’ve topped, 2 LST, Ponytail, lollipop...last one LST,HST as well as ponytail and lollipop. Last few weeks of flower good amount of defoliation as well...They don’t mess with autos not enough time to recover if stunted...oh well trying new techniques..check them out..happy growing.