As far as the Groowers choice seeds go, I was also confused when my Tangerine didnt finish in 65 days from seeds. That was my mis-reading what Growers choice was saying about its timeline. The time they give 55-65 days flowering is as the time from when it STARTS flowering and doesnt include vegitative growth stage, which has been averaging 4-5 weeks for me. So 95 days is the projected time line. My Tangerine went 101 days from seed. Its probably could have gone another week even. After doing some research Ive concluded that 12 weeks is a good target for auto's, but if it takes longer its probably because you have a good healthy plant.