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Cdric69738276
Cdric69738276started grow question 2 years ago
Salut passionné de jardinage,je suis en pleine réflexion sur mon futur achat panneaux led. Entre le FCE 3000 Mars hydro et spider farmer SF 4000 .... Tout en sachant que j'ai une box 80×80. Si quelqu'un peut me dire lequel conviendrait le mieux s'il vous plaît. Cordialement. 🌱
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DutchDoobie
DutchDoobieanswered grow question 2 years ago
High bro, I would go for the Mars Hydro. This one is perfect for a 80x80 growbox. I would have gone for the SF when your growbox had a larger survace like 120x120. Happy Growing! 😋
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Cdric69738276
Cdric69738276answered grow question 2 years ago
Merci beaucoup pour votre éclairage sur ce sujet 😁,ah fallait que je la fasse celle là. Actuellement j'ai un éclairage led viparspectra p1000.car j'ai commencé avec une toute petite box de 60×60. Honnêtement j'en suis assez contents, je crois en effet que j'ai vu bien trop gros pour ma nouvelle box de 80.en effet je pense que 2000w sera bien plus sage et surtout plus pratique.je trouve c'est panneaux led bien construit, surtout de qualité c'est du costaud.... Du coup je pense rester sur cette même marque mais la gamme xs et toujours sur 2000w. Je comptais faire ma croissance avc la p1000 et pour la floraison le xs 2000. Je pense que je serai moins embêter niveaux chaleur, donc meilleures qualités.alors bien-sûr je sais bien que c'est pas la led viparspectra qui va gérer mes runs.... Mais avoir un éclairage fiable et déjà un bon départ. J'espère que vous serez de mon avis. Cordialement amis cultivateur.
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 2 years ago
*when you dim signifcantly, there's no guarantee on what light is produced... it may lose fidelity in some way. with that said i often use my xs1500 at 25% for early vege, lol... but it's not optimal. (re-worded sentence from first paragraph below.... why it is better to run closer to 100% than severely dimmed below 50%.
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 2 years ago
Of the 2, I'd use the FCE3000 primarily because it fits the size of your tent better... and could cover a slightly larger tent at that... the spiderfarmer is 450w and too much for .64m^2. when you dim significantly, the diodes to produce light in same consistent way from what i udnerstand, so it is better to run closer to 100% than below 50%, in general... plus, cheaper than the sf4000. Diode count puts it at 0.25w/diode which will match spec sheet on bridgelux.com... so the specs are accurate as opposed to looking through rose-colored glasses. Alternative -- SF2000 200watt option from spider farmer... 0.33watts per diode of samsung lm301b (better than their 450w vesion for some odd reason). 0.25w is what the spec sheet is based upon, so i expect the efficacy is "close enough" 2.5-2.6umol/J and they list "2.7umol/J." if they use top bin diodes, it would push 2.7umol/J. most manufacturers do not buy the sj/sk diodes for the warmer white chips. This smaller SF light would be 800PPFD or 35DLI over 12 hours per day... this is near ceiling for atmospheric co2 and loosely controlled environment. And, over 18hours for autoflowers it's up around 51-52DLI which is near max for co2 + tightly controlled environment over 18hours per day. so, you'd want to dim 66-75% for autos in a 80x80cm space. 100% for photos 12/12... (66-70% in vege 18/6) Relative to your tent/box size, the SF2000 is probably best option for you. FCE-3000 is slightly ovepowered, but if you plant to up-size, it could be the way to go, too. unless you want a 120x120 area in future, i'd avoid the 450-600w fixture(s). With both you want a little breeze going over them... that is more than enough to keep the diodes running at a good temp for best efficacy. ----- extra info MARS Breakdown https://www.mars-hydro.com/fc-e3000-led-grow-light specs look accurate enough... 800-some umol/s in .64m^2 is roughly 1250+ PPFD -- some of which will miss the plant, but that's WAY ove what ambient co2 will allow. Over 12 hours that will provide 52DLI -- 38-42DLI is roughly ceiling for ambient co2 conditions and loosely controlling environement to avoid too cold or too hot at minimum. That's relative to 12hours per day in bloom -- so autoflowers are 150% of that... 78-80DLI over 18hours in a .64m^2 area. bottom line -- it's overkill for 2.5x2.5 -ish area. photoperiods maybe 75% in this space? and with autoflowers, you would need to run it at 50% or so 18hours per day. if you tightly control environment and add co2, then you can push to 50+ DLI... take bottom line suggested dimming and multiple by 1.25-1.33x. 90-100% for photos 12/12, and 60-65% for autos 18/6 i'd look into the bridgelux chip on bridgelux's website... make sure longevity curve is similar to samsung and all is well. Pretty sure they are also 1/2watt chips and they spec sheet will ikely show them run at 0.25w per chip for the best results. run them hotter and they die faster. *the FC-XXXX are accurately specified.. i am not 100% certain of the FCE-xxxx. SPIDERFARMER https://www.spider-farmer.com/products/sf-4000-led-grow-light/ Okay, i think they slightly fibbed on efficacy... watts per diode are up near .37watts per diode... so, unless they are using top bin, i don't expect them to reach 2.7umol/J .. maybe with some rounding but think it's more than 0.1 off. still good.. and if they do have the best diodes of each CCT used, then 2.7 is definitely possible. IR/UV/the reds, all bring efficacy down (relative to parts used) otherwise looks fine... good light. fairly good price (unless you want to negotiate on alibaba).
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
Yes, you can mount the Mars-Hydro driver outside your tent and that will help with heat reduction if that's a problem where you grow. I happen to think Spider Farmer makes a FAR better light - but you will not have the option to mount the driver outside the tent... You'll have to make the decision based on what you know your needs are going to be. This is a good comparison of several different lighting systems (Mars-Hydro and Spider Farmer are included) that might give you more information you can use to make your decision: https://bestreviews.com/lawn-garden/indoor-gardening/best-led-grow-lights Good luck!
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Foffukuntz
Foffukuntzanswered grow question 2 years ago
The SF is made with supposedly better chips and drivers than the mars,but the new chips supposed to be equal to Samsung,the bar light system is better,Mars you can mount driver outside tent to help with heat and to save your driver being fried on the back of a light,not familiar with SF as to if you can,doubt it. I am running FCE6500 in my 4x4 I think mars wins for you 👍
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