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Farmer99
Farmer99started grow question 2 years ago
hello can someone help me? in understanding what is happening i tried to change the humidity level ... to give little water then i tried to give more water ... i can't understand excessive watering or moisture-related perspiration problems? temperature 27 c humidity 60-65% with the shortcomings I remedied with a cal mag ....
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Leaves. Dropping off
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 2 years ago
Fabric pot must not sit in its pan, must be raised and not allowed to sit in its own run off. Your leaves are heavily laden with water, they fold and cannot release the water getting heavy and sagging, photosynthesis has ground to a halt therefore water uptake has ground to a halt. Moisture is your enemy, but it needs time to settle and a little warmth. Moisture only has a few options, evaporate(this requires warmth and airflow),or uptake through the rootzone. If photosynthesis stops moisture will stagnate from there its only a matter of time. Imagine when you water there is always a spot at the bottom right in the deepest part of soil that never dries, before it gets a chance you add more water, with no chance to ever dry out, it's just a matter of time. You must set up the grow space to have a negative pressure, working out the cubic feet of the tent then look for a fan rated with adequate cfm to empty that tent in 1 minute, every 10 min you empty the tent. This draws all moisture within the medium to the outside never giving bacteria a chance to multiply. Without negative pressure moisture will happily sit within the medium even with good airflow. Photosynthesis works best at 85 this is optimal leaf surface temperature or LST. No matter how much light you give a plant it needs warmth to be able to capture light efficiency. Set your ambient to 80 and drop your light till the canopy reaches 85, Make sure your medium has adequate aeration. And do not water until she is dry. I'd guess there is a lotn of little things going on that are causing an overall breakdown in the process. Medium is wet it could also be a lack of oxygen getting to roots, added with. Give her a couple days she will come back. But get more air on those pots.
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SleepHuntMadScience
SleepHuntMadScienceanswered grow question 2 years ago
Is each segment of affected leaves a bit curved? Reused and leached out growing media? If so a possible zinc deficiency, but that’s kinda rare. Just my best guess, Good luck!
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Farmer99
Farmer99answered grow question 2 years ago
thanks for the advice guys 💪
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 2 years ago
Bruce bugbee has lecture grade videos on the 9 cardinal rules of growth, they are free and priceless in value if you seek to grow. 90% of all indoor cannabis problems are environmental. We don't grow shit.....the code written within the DNA provides the blueprint, nature does the rest. All we really do is provide optimal enviornmental conditions for growth. Good luck !
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 2 years ago
If your making 65rh in veg going to be 80 in flower.
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 2 years ago
Alternatively keep humidity below 50 if you can if you want to play safe. Providing high rh is great as it allow the plant to absorb more moisture from the air but this means less water from rootzones. Anything over 65rh and the air will become so heavy the plant will start to close its stomata (lungs) in order to prevent drowning essentially. No perspiration = no photosynthesis. Also to take note the rh at top of a grow can be 20-30rh higher. Measure everywhere.
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Sciolistic_Steve
Sciolistic_Steveanswered grow question 2 years ago
Your VPD is 1.25-1.5 range... depending on what chart you look at that is either fine or slightly high for later stages. Your RH% would be better off below 60% or even near 45-50% to help reduce microbial risks, but you'd also want to reduce temperatures a bit too. VPD is relative, and would be similar at cooler temps with lower RH. It's a fancy way to understand the rate at which the plant will uptake water, assuming it is healthy and happy. ("transpiration" not perspiration, but close enough) It's pretty hard to give a specific answer to the issues with the plant, given the info here. First, I'd stick to a more consistent practice when irrigating. Water fully.. entire pot should be wet. 10% or more runoff (waste) for soilles and limited runoff with soil. Wait for pot to reach a particular weight -- the safest to start is when the top 1" is dry. Learn the weight at that point and it'll be roughly the same volume of water required. Don't try to pick a volume. Let this process dictate. Then, water to appropriate runoff. Soilless has fertilizer iin every irrigation. Soil is more often fertilized every other or every third irrigation. The concentration you give is the primary factor here. Because of how you have irrigated lated, that adds a wrinkle in diagnosing any leaf symptoms too. pH can cause any and all problems, so make sure that is in check first. Starting at tips like that could be potassium deficiency. The heaving clawing is usually a sign of toxicity, but could also be due to recent watering habits if you've been watering too frequently. If soilless, i'd suggest a simple 1.3-1.5EC mix and follow the above irrigation procedure for soilless. Ship should right itself. React to anything crazy, but get it on a consistent feed for 7-10 days and see how it goes befoer reacting too much. If soil, it's a bit more cat and mouse. Consider what you have added or not added lately and general progression of plant. That will usually point in the proper direction. I can tell you calcium nor magnesium (these are 2 mutually exclusive necessary nutrients) fix the leaf symptoms shown in these pictures. In fact, high levels of calsium or magnesium can lock out other nutes. This is where knowing what you have added helps. There is no silver bullet. You just want to find a happy mix that works well and consistently, then play mad scientist when you have a good baseline. Find a leaf symptom chart with an image search... as you see symptoms, study it. It will speed up process of learning.
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 2 years ago
P.s. as a general rule of thumb rh over 50 things get wetter. Rh under 50 thing dry.
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Farmer99
Farmer99answered grow question 2 years ago
or are they not getting enough light? do I try to bring the lamp closer?
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