Well, going by breeder. They say 56 days or whatever, from point of starting of flower.
Some fems can take 21 days to flip. Depends on how far you vegged them and what stage they were at, "pushing out shoot wise" but, if you truly want to know when it's best to harvest, "as I'm assuming you're asking cause you wanna go by breeders flowering time", if so, go by stigma, as that's truly flowering. Yes, there in a change.. but that time it takes to flip from 5-14 days norm, can be more in rare cases. But it's not counted as pre flower. Well, no in regards to breeders recommendations.
Good luck