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Opinions & experience inquired - Layering diff. substrates - A good or bad idea? Pure living soil seems better so far, might it work better in bigger pots?

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Leromestarted grow question 3 months ago
Opinions & experience inquired - Layering diff. substrates - A good or bad idea? Look up germination week of my mandarin cookies for infos. Do you think this project could be beneficial or should i stick with pure living soil? Why? Keep down bro science pls. THX šŸ’šPM 4 discussion
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Shinsimilla
Shinsimillaanswered grow question 3 months ago
I have played around with layering, not quite the way you have done it, but not too far off. My living soil was doo dense, so I added coco and perlite to it to lighten it up, but was worried about it still getting too saturated in my larger pots (regular plastic, not fabric). I put a layer of coco and perlite alone in the bottom inch so the roots that got there should never sit in stagnant wet soil for long and I added another layer around the middle also about an inch so when the plant is young it can easily access airy pockets easily even if the living soil is a bit on the wet side. It worked quite well and after the plants finished, I saw their roots had spread more strongly in those airy layers while still having access to the nutrient in the living soil. I think your concept is fine, but I would maybe worry about the ratio you have of living soil to inert medium. If the plant stays small it should have enough food, but if you grow a bigger plant, you might need to start feeding more seriously than you normally would to make up for the lack of food. It will also probably dry a lot faster, so you'll have to water a lot more. Not a problem, it just seems it is going to make you work harder for the same result. I'm not expert and some of the things I've done may be really silly, but it worked for me and I grow large plants in those 30l pots without any problem. I just top dress with compost at the start of flower and use FPJ's I make myself and some epsom salt now and then. I would personally move the sand down to the bottom 1/3rd or 1/4th and have more living soil and less inert medium, but try it out and lets see how it goes.
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001100010010011110answered grow question 3 months ago
you shouldn't have verying layers in your substrate. If they don't have similar water capacity properties, one will suck up moisture from the other or you'll have inconsistent dryback in layers of substrate. More times than not it probably won't cause a problem, but i also don't see how it'd help anything. if it's the same proportion of physical components - like sphagnum peat moss and whatever else that make up the soil - then it would have virtually same properties as the 'living soil' portion that comes with amendments/pre-charge/microbes etc and that would avoid the inconsistent drying, but again, what is the goal here? plus as you water, it's going to sperad the amendments of living soil portions throughout no matter what. i'd stick with pure living soil.. if anything added more/less drainage amendments to keep proper water:gas mixture in substrate. if it has water per volume capacity of a typical soil, 50%... if coco coir base you can get awy with 33% because it holds 2/3rds the water per volume compared to a typical soil components. "soil" is a bit ambiguous term. it can be constructed of several different components. i think this would contradict the primary goals of of living soil. the ide is no or limited fertilization, right? convenience and a well-oiled machine that provides all the nutes throughout the grow on a good schedule? if my perception is wrong, might change the answer.
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 3 months ago
Never layer soil, always mix soil thoroughly! Layers can cause issues with nutrient availability and also cause stress/shock in plants. You want steady growth, not re-adjustments in the plant every few weeks.
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Scrubbyjimbob
Scrubbyjimbobanswered grow question 3 months ago
Layering substrates is pretty common, especially using living soil, though typically in a different manner you describe in the journal. Living soils typically run pretty hot and can be a bit much for young roots so it's mixed down with light mix or inorganic like peat. When layering you usually set up your bottom 1/3 or so with a fairly hot(strong) mix, the mid zone mixed down a little lighter and the top layer really light to protect the younger plants that are establishing in that zone. The approach is supposed to help keep from burning young plants while (hopefully) supplying enough nutrients to get through the grow. All the stuff you're using currently as a bottom layer would be better suited mixed throughout your media.
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