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XanHalen
XanHalenstarted grow question 8 days ago
been upping calmag .5 each feed, still getting worse, if not calcium deficiency... what is it? should i keep upping calmag? running 2ml/gal currently. bud development is still good, not stunted, good structure and trichomb production, great smell.
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Leaves. Color - Dark-brown
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 8 days ago
Hmmm, brown spots, most common nutrients thay cause brown spots are, Ca, Mg and K. Which also happen to be the big 3 soil cations. Bit other nutes can cause it too, the symptom of brown spots is generally causes by oxidative stress.........a symptom of oxidative stress, where an imbalance of reactive oxygen species (ROS) damages cells, leading to tissue damage and visible spots. This damage can occur due to various factors, including environmental stress, heavy metal toxicity, or pathogen infection....... If it was from excessive light it would be growth closest to source. Leads me think it's is nute based. Little to no tip damage, ec is good, transpiration is good if water flowing. Potassium Deficiency: A lack of potassium can cause brown spots on the edges or tips of leaves. (Responsible for tugor pressure) would be drooping too if deficienct) Calcium Deficiency: Calcium deficiency can lead to brown spots, especially on new growth, and can also cause leaf edges to curl or become misshapen.(old growth primarily) Magnesium Deficiency: Magnesium deficiency can cause yellowing between the veins, which can then turn brown.(possible but I don't see interveinal chlorosis) Nitrogen Deficiency: A lack of nitrogen can cause yellowing and brown spots, especially on older leaves.(possible bit not whay I'd expect, more yellowing needed, possibly early) Phosphorus Deficiency: Phosphorus deficiency can cause stunted growth and brown spots on leaves. Manganese Deficiency: Manganese deficiency can cause yellowing between the veins of young leaves, followed by dark brown spots. Boron Deficiency: Boron deficiency can cause leaves to appear small and crumpled, with brown spots, and can also cause sharp bends in the trunk. I'd be taking a peek at soil moisture levels too, leaning towards more environmental. Who knows, get a pH before anything that always helps. Would tell me little of whats going on in the soil how saturated you are in Ca , Mg and K these 3 are vitally important for soil composition and if they are all antagonists in that they compete with each other for cations if the ratio is way off for any 1 of the 3 it can jist replace uptake of all the others wreaking havoc with the soil possibly messing with moisture retention. People don't think of oxygen as a nutrient but it is, it's very weak bond means it easily reacts. It's a requirement in soil, in flower with the heavy canopy and increased carbon sequestration the soil in flower can become slightly wetter than one is used to. When roots are saturated, the soil becomes waterlogged, and oxygen cannot reach the roots, leading to anoxia (oxygen deficiency). Under anoxic conditions, plants produce reactive oxygen species (ROS), such as superoxide radicals (O2•-) and hydrogen peroxide (H2O2). This gets shot up the stems with water and burns the epidermis layer. It's not so much a deficiency as much as it is sucking up free radicals along with everything else. Antioxidants, like vitamins C and E, can help neutralize superoxide radicals and other ROS, preventing or minimizing the damage they cause. If worried about chlorine use 1mg of ascorbic acid in 5 gallon jug will instantly dechlorinate and de chloramine your water. Just make sure to not add too much as it very strong acidifier. Magnesium is a nutrient that is found as central atom in chloryphyll, although it presents as mobile nutrient within the plant. It's also constantly used and replenished throughout a plant's life, as the Magnesium is spread all over the plant it can take alot of the radicals with it all over the plant as it seeks to replenishing, basically anywhere water goes. The more water that has passed through a part of plant more damage its getting. Not so kuch mobility but a side effect of water transportation, nutrient distribution and cooling. Soil contains reactive nitrogen species (RNS) due to both natural processes like nitrogen fixation by bacteria and human activities such as fertilizer use and fossil fuel combustion, which increase the amount of nitrogen compounds in the environment. Reactive nitrogen species (RNS) are chemically reactive molecules containing nitrogen, like nitric oxide (NO) and its byproducts, that play diverse roles in biological systems, including signaling and defense against pathogens, but can also contribute to tissue damage. 🤔 Nitrogen toxicity is possible too and it fits but if that were case you probably would have noticed delay in flowering. Reactive nitrogen species (RNS), particularly nitric oxide (NO), can react with reactive oxygen species (ROS), like superoxide (O2-), to form reactive nitrogen-oxygen species (RNS/ROS), such as peroxynitrite, which can lead to oxidative stress and cellular damage. Gluck, hope she recovers strong, buds looking frosty.
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00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 8 days ago
Like others said, more than one cause for rusty necrotic spots. Also looks overfed, so that adds possibility of other nutes inhibiting something that exists in proper amounts but not accessible (nute-caused lockout). if in soilless or a context where you are supplying 100% of Ca because it is exhausted in the soil, ~100ppm (elemental ppm) of Ca should be fine... maybe a bit more but depends on tap water contents too. This would help eliminate possibilities and worth the effort. a web or free app can calculate elemetnal ppm from gauranteed analysis labels. fertilization needs depend so much on the previous choices from seed to present. it's tough to diagnose purely on visible symptoms... some more confidently than others.
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 8 days ago
Massive calcium deficiency and massively over fed with nitrogen. Yes, keep upping the cal/mag...........damaged leaves will not recover, they will stay damaged. Remember too............what is showing in the leaves now, is a direct reflection of what was happening in the root zone 2 weeks ago. Upping the cal/mag may take 10 days or more to show results, it will not happen in 2-3 days.
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BrediniGreeny
BrediniGreenyanswered grow question 8 days ago
Also as all others are writing PH and EC, very important. They show you a lot.😊
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BrediniGreeny
BrediniGreenyanswered grow question 8 days ago
I also tend to go with what @DaddyPrime2 is saying. First thing that popped in my mind was phosporus. As you are giving CalMag and the spots and necrosis seem a little sketchy for just CalMag problems. 😊 https://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-plant-problems/phosphorus-deficiency Hope this helps even a little bit😊. Keep on growing. Love💚 Peace✌️ and Unity🤗!
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Ninjabuds
Ninjabudsanswered grow question 8 days ago
1st I’d check the ph of the run off water it might need adjusted Also you may just have some root damage causing the stress It’s also possible you have given to much nitrogen I suggest running a couple gal of tap water thru the soil next time you water and then check the ph it also could be the ppm is high in the soil
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All_our_small_plants
All_our_small_plantsanswered grow question 8 days ago
Hi Also so auf den ersten Blick würde ich auch zu einem PK Mangel tendieren. Aber es könnten auch mikronähratoffe wie Mangan, Eisen etc sein. EC und PH wert stimmen? Denn wenn dieser nicht paßt kannst du noch so viel CalMag geben die Pflanze ist bei falschem PH wert nicht in der Lage diese aufzunehmen und auch andere nicht die von anderen dünger wenn sie in eine Nährstoffblockade geraten ist. Überprüfe den PH wert deines Runoff ob der zwischen 6 und 6.5 liegt damit sie Zugriff auf alle Nährstoffe hat. Wenn der nicht stimmt must du in anpassen und dan wird das wieder, wenn er aber ok ist gebe ihr etwas PK Dünger.
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gREEn7o0
gREEn7o0answered grow question 8 days ago
Just an added point for DaddyPrime2, charcoal filter will remove chloramine I had one installed for my house so I could use tap water for plants with less hassle. As for your deficiency, what he said. I had similar issues many times during the stretch, high demand for cal and mg during early flower especially running high power LEDs, I usually up my CaMg a good bit early flower, and taper back down mid to late flower, also hit with a pk booster around mid flower or if the calmag isn't stopping progression, means girls are ready to fatten up rather than stretch, generally dialing back light until deficiency stops. At least that's what works for me. Everything is environment and plant dependent. I have 3 plants flowering right now, 3 phenotypes, 2 have no deficiencies at all, 3rd has light stress/Ca/P issues. Backed off the light power, hit with 3 heavy feeds with cal mag and koolbloom, issue seems resolved enough I'm increasing light again.
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DaddyPrime2
DaddyPrime2answered grow question 8 days ago
it could also be a phosphorus deficiency. in flowering the plants get hungrier for phosphorus and potassium and phosphorus deficiency has similiar necrotic spots that pop up along with yellowing in between the leafe veins
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DaddyPrime2
DaddyPrime2answered grow question 8 days ago
make sure you are dechlorinating your water. i have to boil mine because of chloramine. chloramine does evaporate easily like chlorine and has to be boiled. i would also recommend adding some sort of pest prevention. it looks like there could be some damage from mites. adding too much cal/mag can also have an adverse effect. but chlorine/chloramine toxicity can look like a calcium deficiency. once i syarted boiling and cooling my water, it made all of the difference.
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