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2017-09-11. Kl 12.00. Week 4 starts. I have cleaned the whole room for the new week and gave the girls water and nutes. Added videos and pics. Girl is 21 cm high. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2017-09-12. Kl 10.00. New pics and video. She has grown from 21 cm to 25 cm in 23 hours. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2017-09-15. KL 10.00. New pics and video. The girl is 30 cm high and has grown 9 cm the last 4 days. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2017-09-16. Kl 10.00. She is growing like crazy and needs to get defoliated every morning. I added 2 new videos and gave her 2 liters of water and nutes. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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It was an interesting grow in hind sight, I had my ups and downs along the way . It was my First haze and wasn't prepared for the 12 wk flowing cycle. My girls took until wk 3-4 to show any hairs!! I was starting to think that they would never do it. I was battling with my nighttime temps , sometimes they would drop to 3c. I installed a 190w 1.5m greenhouse tube heater and managed to raise it to 9c. I installed another a few weeks after and managed to keep a temp of 12c when lights were off. It seemed like I was constantly waiting for a growth spurt as the flowers didn't seem to kick off until Around wk 8 . I had some foxtails, mainly on the left side Of my tent , the foxtails were like crowns ( 4 growing out of the tip of the cola). This also made the main bud a bit loose . The flavour is nice and sweet with a pungent smell, some have said like cheese . It is a really strong bid to smoke , one joint and that's it for 2 hours , really creative . I wouldn't grow this strain again due to the sheer amount of time that goes into it , not to mention the extra nutes and electricity , but I will keep some back as it is a lovely experience. I also used a pollinator machine and got 30g of hash from my trim which is always a nice bonus . Thanks to valhallas garden, totem and spinner Caribbean for their support during this grow . I may lay low for a while on GD as I had a bit of a scare with an address of a friend accidentally appearing in a photo ,
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Total dry weight is 3.5 ounces. Smells amazing!!!! Can not wait for it to be cured. This plant was pretty easy. Did some LST early on seems to have paid off.
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It’s week 9 and you can definitely see the flowers now. The seeds were all 60-70 day to flower and they all started at week 8-9! Awesome
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@Daviz_42
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Estoy contento de como se están desarollando estas nuevas fem de 42 fast buds una nueva línea muy resinosa, flores densas y llenas de resina, algunas tiene un olor realmente increíble, lemon mandarin es espectacular como huele a mandarina, gorilla melon huele como a melón recién cortado en una tarde calurosa de verano... reinbow melon tiene un olor dulce terroso y gaseoso, paya sherbet uele a una mezcla dulce de papaya... veremos que tal los terps al fumar.
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Purple Lemonade , Gelato 1&2, LAK 2&3 are all just about done theyll be coming down over the weekend or early next week. T26, Pineapple Express, Mexican Airlines, LAK 1, 6 Shooter Blue Dreamatic and Cream Cookies are all on the flush but will need a few more before chop. This tent reeks up the whole block it's pretty intense skunk in the driveway right now. There will be one more update I'm guessing for most of these before the harvest update. This was the most successful autoflower crop I've had in a long time I think theres some really good quality buds on some of these. I'll put the video up now and as I go thru the pics theyll be uploaded so if your interested come back tmm for the pics.
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******************************************** Week 12 Late flower (week 8 flower) ******************************************** Light cycle=12/12 Light Power=130w 54% Extractor controller settings (during lights on). High temp= 26c Temp step=0c High Rh= 46% Rh step=0% Speed max=10 Speed min=3 Extractor controller settings (during lights off). High temp= 20c Temp step=0c High Rh= 50% Rh step=0% Speed max=10 Speed min=3 Smart controller settings (during lights on). Lights on=9.00am Radiator on= -19.0c Radiator off=+19.5c Smart controller settings (during lights off). Lights off=9.00pm Radiator on=-18.0c Radiator off=+18.5c VPD aim=1.0-1.5 DLI aim=40-45 EC aim=1.0-1.8 PH aim=6.0-6.5 💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧 NPK= 5-14-20 Method= Automatic Feed=Late Flower nutes Neutralise=0.1ml/L Plagron bloom=2.5ml/L Plagron Power buds=1ml/L Green Sensation=1ml/L Easy Ph down=0ml/L (1ml=24 drops, 1 drop=0.04ml) Easy Ph Up=0.0ml/L (1ml=24 drops, each drop is 0.04ml) Ec=1.2 PH=6.3/6.0 Runs=8 Run times=3mins (0.75L/0.375L each) Gap times= 17mins Total runtime=24mins(6.0L/3.0L each) Total flowrate= 0.25L/min(0.125L/min each) Auto start time=10.00am Auto stop time=12.23pm 💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧 ******************************************** ******************************************** 📅26/4/25 Saturday(Day 78) 📋 Forgot to activate the schedule for watering but remember half way through the cycle. 💧 Automatic late flower nutes Ec=1.2 PH=6.2/6.0 Volume=8.0L Volume left=4L Volume used=4L Volume each=2L Runoff. Total runoff=0L Auto 20 mins Volume each=4L Total runoff=0.4L Ec=1.8 PH=6.6/6.5 💧 📅27/4/25 Sunday(Day 79) 📋 Weather is turning, it's soon going to be a battle against heat. 📅28/4/25 Monday(Day 80) 📋 warm day 📅29/4/25 Tuesday(Day 81) 📋 The battle against heat has began. 📅30/4/25 Wednesday(Day 82) 📋 yep yesterday was high temps but today's was way hotter. 💧 Automatic late flower nutes Ec=1.2 PH=6.2/6.1 Volume=8.0L Volume left=2L Volume used=6L Volume each=3L Total runoff=0L Manually Volume each=1L Total runoff=0L Ec= PH=/ 💧 📅1/5/25 Thursday(Day 83) 📋 Lowered light power to 120w 📅2/5/25 Friday(Day 84) 📋H=70cm D=32cm Dli=33.1 PPFD=766 ******************************************** Weekly roundup. 📋 She's been in flower for 56 days now, I'm expecting her to start her final push and start bulking up, the amount of trichomes she is pumping out is immense, 2nd time using green sensation and a massive increase in trichome production. Most likely another 2 weeks left if she carrys on at this speed. This time of year temps tend to rocket due to shift in the season. I'm glad this runtz hasn't much longer to go if the tent is going to be a nightmare to control. As this strain is further along in development compared to the other strain im goimg to be puting her on a different nutrient mix because of her different needs. Probably have a break after this grow, as in start a shit load of autos inside for a few weeks and move them onto gorilla spots. Back soon. Take it easy. ********************************************
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Budding nicely. Though I realized this week that this is not a GG. It is an Ice Cool.
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Hey everyone! Week 7 is here (2nd of flower) and here's what happened this week! 😃 - Both of my girls look very different from each other. Many things could've lead to this! - The one that's on the "front" is developing faster, her leaves are darker in color and they look long and thinner (more Sativa in her DNA?). Besides that? Not so much besides this was a very, veeeery hot week compared to previous ones and that one of my girl is no longer showing Magnesium deficiency, which is amazing! I'm really impressed how things are going so next week I'll start adding some extra PK and see how things develop. I want some biiiiig buds! 😍 Anyway, that's all for now. See you all next week and enjoy the photos and videos!
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Start of week 5 today, everything seems to be going great! The Gelato OG is by far the biggest plant of the bunch so far but they all seem to be taking well to LST, HST , Topping & defoliation! Will be going in the flower tent as soon as the other ladies harvest so they will probably have atleast 2 to 3 more weeks of veg!
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The S.O.1 gets still only Water and calmag. I love how she turns purple now…I dont know is it about the Pheno Or that I did something right or wrong but i love it. The s.0.2 get now biobizz like plan. She is the biggest one with the Most Buds but also the smallest at all. S.0.3 is about Day 65 and i think my Favorit with S.0.1 I think the 1 one only Need one more week but the other two about two or three. I’m more than happy about my first grow ever and will run this strain again as my second run to get better Can’t wait to harvest woohoo
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9/5 Beautiful weather. The smell is amazing. Much stronger than previous years. I watered everything 2 gallons yesterday with the exception of the 10 and the tub. Found a few moth larvae but I found many more lady bug larvae. Flowers are EXPLODING! I've got one pheno that I think will be done in two weeks. I'm close to the flowering time on that strain anyway amd I labeled flower late. I need to bring my loup and check trichs. Such an exciting time of year! Leaf blower started and I was able to blow off the entire garden. UPDATE: WENT OVER WITH THE TRICH SCOPE AND LOOKED AT THE 10TH PLANETS. VERY FROSTY! THEY HAVE SOME PLUMPING UP TO DO AND THE PISTLES NEED TO RETRACT A BIT MORE ON SOME OF THE FLOWERS. WE'RE GETTING CLOSE THOUGH. PISTLES ARE CHANGING IRANGE AND RED AND STRARTING TO RETRACT. BUDS ARE SWELLING (ON EVERYTHING). I DID NOTICE THAT THE PLANT WITH THOSE MARKINGS HAD SOME APHIDS ON IT. I HAVE A SHIT TON OF LADY BUGS/BEETLES AND THERE LARVAE. THEYVE BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB KEEPING THINGS IN CHECK. THAT AND MY CAGE IS BETWEEN TWO BIRD FEEDERS SO BIRDS ARE ALWAYS DARTING IN AND OUT SO I ASSUME THEYRE EATING SOMETHING. THIS IS BY FAR MY BEST YEAR SO FAR. PURPLE PUNCH HAS DENSE COLAS BIT LOTS OF PISTOLS STILL YELLOW REACHING UO TO FORM WHAT WILL BE MASSIVE COLAS. I THINK IM GOING TO HAVE TWO LITER COLA BOTTLE SIZED COLAS ON ONE PLANT. ILL BE SURPRISED IF I DIDNT. THERE ARE TWO PHENOMES OF THE BLUEBERRY CHEESE IT SEEMS. THREE ARE MUCH FURTHER ALONG THEN THE OTHER TWO. THOSE TOTHER TWO LOOK FAR MORE SATIVAISH. I'M SUPER EXCITED FOR THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS! 9/6 Brought the trich scope over last night. Things are getting frosty and coming along quite nicely. The smell when I walk in the cage now is overwhelming. It's like getting hit in the face with a wet bud. I've been noticing more and more lady bug larvae. I noticed a bud worm and tried to find it again after I entered the cage and one if the large lady bug larvae was eating it! Debating whether or not to apply BT. Still have what looks like a calcium deficiency on that one plant but I lose less and less leaves each day. It soesnt have MANY more big fan leaves to keep dropping. Oh well. I'm keeping an eye on it and as long as it's not pests or fungal than whatever. That plant is flowering rapidly to catch up with her sisters. Since my return at growing cannabis I would say rhis has been my best yet. I am super proud with how things are going. If I can keep poo this up for another month I'll be golden. I plan to harvest the 10th planet's in stages (when ready). At least with the two up front and MAYBE the other. That way it would give a chance for the bottom that disnt get as much sun as the top to "catch up". I've do s rhis before with monster crops and it worked good. I plan on watering tonight. Leaves are turning yell8w and dieing on tje big cheese and the two purple punches in the back. I think that I've used most nutrients from my soil and what I'm putting back in isn't enough to cover their needs. When I fed the p.p. in the tub I could notice that it's leaves started greening right up. I'll check last feed and if I need to ill up the dosage. 10th planet doesn't really like a lot of nutes so I have to be careful. This is something lots have discovered. Exciting time! Had a stranger last night but nobody can get past the dog or the motion sensors or the cacophony of measures I've taken to secure my medicine. Not even sure it was a person but still. The fence is electrified at night so they can have fun trying. UPDATE: Sunny and like 85 all day. Went over around two and noticed a 10th planet slightly drooping. Everything was super light. I gave all the 20's 2 gallons the 30 on the grow bag got 2.5 the 30 in the tub got 1, the 10 got 1 and the 50 got 2. I then fed. Since the 10th planet's are a little further ahead I fed them a little different. I just removed the grow big since they are really green anyway and I also upped the liquid kool bloom to 1 tsp per gallon and fed a quart to everything. A little more for the 10th planet 30gal in the bag and the blueberry cheese in the fifty. The rest of the feed was the same as listed above. Seeing TONS of lady big larvae. Have to he careful when defoliating as I want them to stick around. 9/7 FED and watered yesterday. We've had some super hot weather lately. Hottest all summer. In the 80s-90s. Got a ladder and inspected buds. Found some bud rot on the purple punch. Sucks having to cut off the top of a cola but if I don't it will just spread. This purple punch still has long stigmas reaching up to form a solid cola on the branch. I know it's got a little ways to go. One of the 10th planet phenos on the other hand is looking close to done. Trichs are frosty and milky not much amber. Stigmas turned red and have retracted into the bud. I'm going to wait for this tester to dry and take it from there. We are supposed to get a few days of rain coming up. I don't want to risk all those beautiful ALMOST finished buds to bud rot. I may move it into the garage if we get a lot if rain. Let it have a few days of darkness. Or I could just open the door and it would still get sun and remain dry. This strain smells and looks SOOO good. I can't wait to try it. I'm going backbover to check all the tops. The blue cheese plants are HUGE! With HUGE buds. The trichs just aren't developed enough. It is super frosty but the flowers haven't taken on that swell. It's happening ob one plant and its looking like the colas will he like two liter soda bottles. The thing is that's an awful lot of room for mold. Oh well. That's how I grew them. One thing is for certain. After seeing what the pillars can do I can't rely on the lady bugs to get rid of them all. I'll be spraying BT tonight on everything but that early 10th planet phenome. UPDATE: INSTALLED MORE CAMS. I HAVE ONE 10TH PLANET THAT IS LOOKING PRETTY GOOD. REAL CLOSE. IM GOING TO SMOKE THE TESTER BUD FIRST BUT I THINK IM GOING TO HARVEST THE EARLY PHENOME IN PARTS. LOOKING AT THE WEATHER IT APPEARS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SEVERAL DAYS OF RAIN. IF SO ILL TAKE THE TOP AND LET THE UNDER CANOPY DEVELOP MORE. ILL LEAVE THE OTHER TWO 10TH PLANETS THAT WERE MONSTER CROPPED AS THEY STILL HAVE SOME SWELLING TO DO. I LOOKED AT TRICHS WITH A JEWLERS LOUPE. I REALL MISS MY USB SCOPE. PURPLE PUNCH HAS THE BIGGEST FLOWERS BUT THE ARENY AS DEVELOPED. I NEED TO GET ANOTHER. ITS WORTJ EVERY PENNY. I GOT ON A LADDER AND CHECKED THE TOP COLAS FOR DAMAGE OR ROT. NOTHING SO FAR KNOCK ON WOOD. EACH PLANT HAS A UNIQUE SMELL BUT WHEN YOU ENTER THE GARDEN THE BLEND TOGETHER AND ITS LIKE GETTING HIT WITH A WET BUD IN TGE FACE. I SHOULD GO SPRAY EVERYTHING ELSE WITH BT TONIGHT. LADY BUGS CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. 9/8 Cut some bud rot off a 10th planet and a purple punch. Definitely from pillars. Doesn't hurt that it's been 90 with 90rh. Thunderstorms are coming and it's gonna rain a few days. Plants will need water I'm sure. I tried some of the purple punch bud I cut off (after I dug all the rot out) and it was good! That plant still has white stigmas as and can go a lot longer. Trich scope says the 10th planet's are done. I'm taking the tops off two before the rain starts. I'll leave the one that's a LITTLE further behind and see what comes of it. Even the more sativa dominant blue cheese plants are frosting up quit nicely. I haven't been able to put up videos as my phone has been full and it wouldn't let me even TAKE a video. I need to spray bt tonight. I went through the garden this morning and despite all the lady bugs I found two more bud worms. I think taking the stuff that's done off those two plants is the smart thing to do. I should take all three and just leave the bottoms but I'll just go with the two. I'll update later after I figure out what I'm going to do. UPDATE: TOOK MOST OF THE 10TH PLANET AS IT WAS DONE. I WOULD'VE TAKEN ONE OF THE OTHER 10TH PLANETS BUT IT TOOK WAAAY TO LONG. WATERED EVERYTHING 2 GALLONS EXCEPT 1 FOR THE 10 AND TuB AND 2.5 FOR MY 10TH P IN THE 30. ILL HAVE TO FINISH AND UPLOAD THIS SHIT LATER. I DID A VIDEO. 9/9 Most of one 10th planet is hanging. Big yield. Looking at the trichs I think Im going to take the other one that looks done. If i did id do the same thing. I did with the other. Take the tops and allow the bottom to develop a little more. Smoked the tester bud and was pleasantl u surprised. Im not using that for acsmoke report. Purple punch and blue cheese both need more time bit are swelling like crazy. Colas should be two liter bottles. Worried about bud rot with buds that big. Thos morning four birds were perched on my cage. I see them dart in and out grabbing a snack. I have let my 'leafing' and general upkeep slip. My wife has been sick and I've been in the hospital with her. So I need to defoliate some things and I'd like to chop that other 10th planet and leave the biggest one a little longer. This one i think has reached diminishing returns or damb close. I don't know if the video uploaded. Havent been doing many because my phone was full and it wouldn't even open the camera. I never said I wad tech savvy. I'll keep this updated. Fucking video keeps resizing but won't fully upload and I've got 5g right now so it must be the site. Been at the hospital all day with 5g and can't upload videos. It's the site. 9/10 Wife was rushed to emergency surgery. Was in hospital all day yesterday. Was able to take the top half of the krber 10th planet that was done. I need to water but it's 100% chance of rain. If i don't make it out dadxwill have to do it. Boy this strain is pungent. BUDS are getting way bigger and trichs are piling on. It's been a great finishing season so far. This will be one of my best years. I'll take more pictures qnd videos as soon as I'm not in an emergency situation. I tried uploading the video again but it loads and then won't resize. It's super annoying and I'm now unable to upload videos. Great. UPDATE: GOT HOME AT LIKE 8. NOW I REALLY NEED AN ATTORNEY. NINE HOURS AT THE ER. FOUR OUT OF 7 DAYS. I DEFOLIATED DEAD LEAVES BUT IM WAY BEHIND. IVE GOT SOME TRIMMIMG TO DO. IM GLAD I PULLED THAT 10TH PLANET TOPS OFF THOSE 2 PLANTS BEFORE THIS RAIN. THE TRICHSCARE AMBER. ITS SO STICKY BUGS WILL LAND AND CANT TAKE OFF LOL. ILL GET SOME PICTURES OF SOME STUFF DRIED TOMORROW. PICS UPLOAD VIDEOS WONT. THEY WONT RESIZE. 9/11 Finally got some rain yesterday. Still need to apply BT. I've found some rot and just removed the whole bud. Also seeing some septoria on one plant. It's everywhere though and I don't change my clothes like I should. Having been in the ER for 9hrs 4 out of 7 days my plants were neglected. I defoliated dead and dieing leaves. Still don't know what that deficiency on the one plant is but it's still there. Doesn't effect the flowers though. I watered everything a gallon today since it's "supposed to rain." I fed everything lightly with a powerase bottle. TRIED UPLOADING A BUNCH OF PICTURES BUT WHEN IT GETS TO RESIZE IT DISAPPEARS. I smoked my tester 10th planet bud and WOW. Everything I could ask for in a cannabis strain. I'll wait to do a smoke report after I smoke the fully finished product and the other plants come down but I am super impressed! Looking at it through a scope is amazing as well. After i smoked that joint i had my dab ready but i didnt want to change how i was feeling so I held off. Granted tolerance is down due to all the hosputal visits but normally very high. Once this site is fixed I'll upload some points of things dry. I have more work to do 9/12 I've tried adding pictures and videos probably 50 times and as soon as they get uploaded they won't resize so I can't start a new week. I'll try uploading them here. Nope. I'll use another platform if you guys can't fix this. This is my best year and I can't upload shit! Raining like hell. Watered and fec yesterday. Everything got a piwerade bottle. Got a new electric Milwaukee leaf blower. Defoliated what needed it and came over to soaked buds. Purple punchvis the only one experiencing botrytis and i just cur the whole thing off. The other purple punches dont have any rot. Boy this is the strongest smelling cannabis ive grown and i cant even put up a picture. Washed 36 quart jars amd a few bigger one. Im looking into getting the bucket conversion fir storage. As soon as tge site is fixed ill put up my pictures and videos. Rain is expected for a few days. My other tenth planet looks ficking done too. Its not getting bud rot so im going to leave it. Its fucking huge. I had to tie up even the secondary or tertiary branches on some plants. Still no breaks though. Vertical trellis literally saved the day. 9/13 This site must be down. I can't upload any pictures or videos. I can't even start a new week. They upload but then they 'fail to load' or some message. This is the most important part. Anyway I shook everything then used the new electric leaf blower. I'm getting some bud rot on the purple punch in the 20. The biggest one. With this rain and the pillars I'm having to cut off more everyday. Rain today but after this rain lmore stuff will be coming down. That 10th planet is done done. I need to wait for the rain to stop and I'll chop the tops off that monster cropped plant. The blueberry cheese will be the last one done but the flowers are huge and covered in crystals. The BIG cheese is going to be a huge yield. I wish I coukd show you guys. Once they get this fixed ill update. Everything is going good though despite this rain. We have a hurricane coming but I could literally take everything NOW amd still have a BANGING harvest. All I've taken is the top of two 10th planet's and it's already the best I've ever done. Some of that plant is left to see if it improves but thats doubtful. I need to keep am eye on that one plant and I'm gonna ride this shit out. The electric leafblower works great. Of and I found some manners in a bud I removed from a purple punch due to bud rot. These plants are close though. Very close. STILL UNABLE TO POST PICTURES OR VIDEOS AS OF 2:30 9/14 Apparently this problem uploading pictures and videos is not just me. Its universal. I defol8at3d what needed it and checked in between the buds of cola for rot. I FOUND A bumblebee STUCK inside a big putmrple punch cola. He had broken a leg it looked like though amd he ended up falling. Those huge purple punch buds are rotting more everyday with this rain. It's only effecting one plant though. We are suppised to be getting a hurricane coming through. My tenth planet is DONE DONE but that purple punch plant needs to come down. No problems with the other purple punches or 10th planet which has nugs just as tight. Blue cheese has even BIGGER buds (had to stake THEM ALL) but since they aren't as dense I'm not getting any bud rot. Colas are tye size of a baseball batvor bigger and there is a lot of them. Best year ive ever had. I hope this site fixes soon. This is tge strongest smelling cannabis I have ever grown. Realistically i should take the other 10th planet's before the hurricane. As soon as shit dries out I'll be taking some more stiff before the hurricane. Those blue cheese have been through hell and are very resilient. I'm gonna let them ride the hurricane out I think. So sad I can't share my pictures or videos. Orrrrr my harvest report. COME ON GROW DIARIES
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Hey everyone ☺️. This week it has developed really well and has finally taken on color again :-) 👍. The additional nutrients as described last week have taken off. 1 liter per pot is poured twice this week 🤗. Today it goes over to the flower tent 👍. Otherwise there is not much to report this week. I wish you a lot of fun with the update, stay healthy 🙏🏻 and let it grow 🍀😊 You can buy this Strain at : https://sweetseeds.es/de/cream-caramel/ Type: Cream Caramel ☝️🏼 Genetics: Blue Black x Maple Leaf Indica x White Rhino 👍 Vega lamp: 2 x Todogrow Led Quantum Board 100 W 💡 Bloom Lamp : 2 x Todogrow Led Cxb 3590 COB 3500 K 205W 💡💡☝️🏼 Soil : Canna Coco Professional + ☝️🏼 Fertilizer: Green House Powder Feeding ☝️🏼🌱 Water: Osmosis water mixed with normal water (24 hours stale that the chlorine evaporates) to 0.2 EC. Add Cal / Mag to 0.4 Ec Ph with Organic Ph - to 5.5 - 5.8 .
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Another week has gone by. Still not seeing any amber trichomes but a lot seem to be going cloudy so hopefully another 2 weeks MAX for this one. Both plants are looking kinda deficient but only a week or two left so not too fussed about that. Both plants smell very sweet and are both the same smell too which suggests a nice strain stability. Still unsure which one will yield more, one being topped and one left to its own life. Hopefully next week we will see some amber!
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No problems yet, growing good. Transplanted other 2. I ran out of soil so I topped off the gelato with pellets. Starting low stress training on purple kush 1 and 2, will be topping pk 3, and maybe try and fim gelato after I read more about it. Maybe I should top it first.
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