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Next grow week done Nothern light topped...started to grow better after one week of my absence and pure stress for the plant...nutrients data above are only for this plant Northern light untopped which gets only aptus nutrients (data see last week) shows impressive grow...develops monster leaves which is a bit problematic...lower part does not have enough light...however I decided not to influence this plant much...only done some light lst
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Soooo, nach langem Warten (ich bitte um Entschuldigung, es kam immer irgendwas dazwischen), nun die Ernte! Nachdem ich jetzt alle Sorten verkostet habe, kann ich euch nun mein Fazit präsentieren. Im Großen und Ganzen bin ich eigentlich ganz zufrieden mit dem Ergebnis, muss aber auch gestehen, dass ich bei der ein oder anderen Strain doch etwas mehr erwartet habe. Bei den nun folgenden Bewertungen möchte ich noch anmerken, dass sich diese rein auf den Outdoor-Anbau der jeweiligen Sorte und nur auf den einen bekannten Phäno beziehen. Man kann grundlegend behaupten, dass sich alle Sorten doch sehr solide geschlagen haben, und das bei diesem … naja, sagen wir mal wechselhaften Sommer. Allerdings merke ich einfach, dass sie lange nicht ihr volles Potenzial ausgeschöpft hatten, was ich immer etwas schade finde. Ich bin trotzdem froh, dieses Projekt durchgezogen zu haben, und gehe mit reichlich neuen Erkenntnissen sowie einem abwechslungsreichen Stash in die besinnliche Zeit. Was hat mich grundlegend bei den meisten Sorten gestört? Bei fast allen Sorten, mit Ausnahme der Hella Jelly und der Lemon Tree (wer hätt's gedacht), waren die Terps doch sehr flüchtig. Im Vape kamen sie wirklich gut zur Geltung, wenn man sie allerdings im Joint (pur, versteht sich) geraucht hatte, haben sie oft nach den ersten Zügen an Präsenz verloren, was wirklich schade ist. Dies ist aber wahrscheinlich auf die Anbaubedingungen zurückzuführen und soll den Breedern keinesfalls ihre Qualität absprechen. Wie schon in einem vorigen Kommentar erwähnt, haben sie einfach nicht ihr volles genetisches Potenzial erreichen können. Ich bin mir des Weiteren auch nicht sicher, ob ich beim nächsten Mal wieder auf die Dryferm-Bags setzen werde. Es war doch ein ziemliches Gefummel, bis man die Blüten ohne Kontakt zueinander in die Beutel verfrachtet hatte. Außerdem hat es meiner Meinung nach die Trocknungszeit eher verkürzt, obwohl ich mich an die Temperatur- und Luftfeuchtigkeitsrange gehalten hatte, was ich auch nicht unbedingt begrüße. Und zu guter Letzt sind sie auch echt nicht billig, wenn man bedenkt, dass ich pro Pflanze teilweise über 4 Beutel benötigt hatte (pro 3 Stk. ca. 25 Euro) und sie laut Hersteller nur dreimal verwendet werden sollten. Das ist doch auf Dauer ein ganz schönes Investment. Aber das sind nur meine 2 Cent zu dem Thema :). Nach und nach sollten jetzt hier die Erntereports eintrudeln. Ich hoffe, ich schaffe alles heute. Falls nein, seht es mir bitte nach. Falls ihr noch spezifische Fragen zu einer Sorte habt, lasst es mich einfach wissen, dann bekommt ihr noch eine ausführlichere Beschreibung. PS: Die Filmore-Slim musste ich leider fast komplett entsorgen. Sie hatte die festesten Blüten, die ich je bei einer Outdoorpflanze gesehen habe, was ihr leider zum Verhängnis geworden ist (durchgeschimmelt). Von ihr hatte ich leider keine rauchbaren Blüten. Von der Optik war sie auf jeden Fall ein Champion! Ich habe von allen Sorten Fresh Frozen in der Gefriertruhe, die ich in der kommenden Zeit wachsen möchte (auch von der Filmore Slim). Also kann ich sie hoffentlich als Konzentrat verkosten. Das soll es gewesen sein. Ich wünsche euch viel Spaß mit den folgenden Ernteberichten und eine ruhige, besinnliche Weihnachtszeit mit euren Liebsten! Wir hören uns dann hoffentlich im nächsten Jahr wieder, mit vielen neuen spannenden Projekten.
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💎 Black Diamond Auto by Zamnesia – Pheno A Week 9 | Beast Mode Activated 💎🔥 Welcome back to another chapter of the 8×8 Adventure! Okay... I think we're officially allowed to say it now. This girl is a beast. Not just a beast. One of the bestiest in the room. Is bestiest a real word? Probably not. Do I care? Absolutely not. 😂💎 Because Black Diamond Auto Pheno A has entered another level of flower development, and every time I look at her, I find myself thinking the same thing: What the hell are you building? She's big. She's loaded. She's stacking flowers everywhere. And now she's getting cleaned up a little because even a beast needs a little grooming. Let's make her shine. Because she absolutely deserves the spotlight. 🌱 One Room. Twelve Personalities. For anyone discovering the diary for the first time, welcome to the 8×8 Adventure. This project is about something I absolutely love about growing: genetics reveal themselves when you give them the opportunity. Twelve different plants. One room. One general environment. One 12/12-from-seed approach. The same lighting strategy. The same nutritional program. The same irrigation philosophy. The same grower. And yet... completely different plants. Some stretch. Some stay compact. Some build huge central flowers. Some spread themselves across the canopy. And then there's Black Diamond Pheno A. She seems to have decided: "Why choose?" Tall? Yes. Branchy? Yes. Flower everywhere? Yes. Big flowers? Yes. Lower flowers developing properly? Apparently yes. And now... beast mode. 💎🔥 💎 The Beast Is Still Building At around 169 cm, she remains one of the larger plants in the room. But by now, her height isn't what catches my attention first. It's the amount of flower she's carrying. This girl has continued doing exactly what she showed us last week: building substantial flowering structures throughout the plant. The central flower is impressive. But then you look down the branches... and there's another one. And another. And another. This is what makes her so fascinating. She's not simply relying on one enormous top flower. She's distributing her production throughout her architecture. And some of those lower flowers are becoming seriously substantial. The word "popcorn" is becoming increasingly difficult to justify when the flowers down there are starting to look like proper little colas themselves. 😂 ✂️ Even the Beast Needed a Cleanup This week, we did give her a little attention. We defoliated her. Not because she was unhealthy. Not because she was desperately asking to be stripped. And certainly not because I suddenly believe every plant needs the same treatment. It's because we're growing in a full room. That's an important distinction. If Black Diamond were growing completely by herself, I might have left considerably more of that beautiful foliage exactly where it was. But she isn't alone. She's sharing the room. She's sharing the available space. She's sharing the airflow. She's sharing the light. And when a plant becomes this dense, sometimes you have to make some decisions based on the entire ecosystem rather than the individual plant alone. So we opened her up. We removed selected leaves. We created a little more breathing room. We cleaned some areas that had become crowded. And honestly? She looks fantastic. 🍃 Goodbye to Some Beautiful Leaves And this is the part that always makes me hesitate. Because there were some beautiful leaves in there. Healthy. Large. Green. Perfectly capable of doing their job. But sometimes even a beautiful leaf has reached the point where removing it makes sense for the overall structure. There were also a few older leaves that were naturally ready to come out. So this wasn't about removing foliage for the sake of removing foliage. It was about looking at the plant as she exists today and deciding: Where does this leaf still contribute most? And where is it simply adding another layer of congestion? That's the kind of defoliation I like. Selective. Purposeful. And respectful of the plant. We're not trying to turn a Black Diamond into a skeleton. We're simply giving the beast a little room to breathe. 👀 A Few Little Imperfections And while we're showing the beautiful side of this girl, I also want to document the little imperfections. There are a few minor burned tips and some small spots appearing on some leaves. Nothing that takes away from the overall picture. The plant remains outstanding. But I'm keeping an eye on them. Could it be related to the intensity of the feeding? Could some of the damage be associated with environmental or mechanical stress, including airflow? There isn't enough evidence from the photographs alone for me to confidently blame one specific cause. And that's okay. Sometimes the correct answer in a diary is: "I'm watching it." That's exactly where I am with this. The important thing is the overall plant. And overall? She's absolutely crushing it. 💎🌿 🌸 The Flowers Are Becoming Serious The flower development is probably the most exciting part of this week's update. The flowers are getting increasingly established. Calyxes are stacking. Pistils are still showing prominently. The structure is becoming denser. And the resin coverage is becoming increasingly visible. Those close-up photographs really show the progression. This isn't early flower anymore. We're watching flowers become flowers. The architecture we've been observing for weeks is now turning into something much more substantial. And because there are so many flowering sites distributed throughout this plant, every week makes the overall picture more impressive. The central cola is beautiful. But honestly... I keep getting distracted by everything else. 😂 ❄️ And That Frost... Another thing that continues to catch my eye is the increasing frost. The sugar leaves are becoming visibly coated. The developing flowers are carrying more and more resin. And the whole plant is starting to take on that increasingly frosty appearance that makes you want to get the macro lens out immediately. This is one of those stages where the plant seems to change almost every time you photograph her. One week you notice the flower structure. The next week you notice the resin. Then suddenly you realize the flowers have become considerably larger. That's why documenting these plants week after week is so much fun. You don't just see the final result. You get to see the transformation. 💡 Light From Above and Below And Black Diamond remains a fascinating plant for observing the relationship between canopy structure and light distribution. The main Future of Grow lighting provides the primary illumination from above. And the Lumiflora under-canopy lighting gives us another layer of illumination lower in the plant. With a phenotype like this, that becomes particularly interesting. Because there are flowers everywhere. Not just at the top. Not just around the main stem. Throughout the branches. And after the selective defoliation, we've opened some additional space through the canopy. So now I'm even more curious to see how those different levels continue developing as flowering progresses. We're not trying to predict the result. We're watching it happen. That's the experiment. 💧 Feeding the Beast The nutritional strategy remains consistent with the flowering program. Current feeding: 🌸 Terra Bloom — 2.2 ml/L 🌱 Power Buds — 1 ml/L ✨ Green Sensation — 1 ml/L 🍯 Sugar Royal — 1 ml/L ⚗️ pH Plus — 0.03 ml/L 🍋 Lemon Kick — 0.03 ml/L The nutrient solution is maintained around pH 6.0, with the recorded EC around 2.0 mS/cm. Watering remains around 1.3 L per plant per 24 hours. And looking at this girl... she certainly isn't complaining about having something to eat. 😂💎 The important part remains consistency. The same nutritional strategy is being used across the experiment. Black Diamond simply happens to be one of the phenotypes making particularly good use of the opportunity. 🌡️ The Environment Current conditions for this update: 🌸 Flowering: Week 9 📏 Height: 169 cm 💡 Light schedule: 12/12 🌡️ Day temperature: 29°C 🌙 Night temperature: 25°C 💧 Relative humidity: 60% ⚗️ pH: 6.0 ⚡ EC: ~2.0 mS/cm 🌡️ Solution temperature: 25°C 🌱 Substrate temperature: 26°C 🌬️ CO₂: 639 ppm ? Pot size: 15 L 💦 Watering: ~1.3 L per plant / 24h The room stays consistent. The plant keeps changing. And that contrast is exactly what makes the phenotype experiment so interesting. 📸 This Week's Gallery The photographs this week tell a beautiful story. The wider shots show just how much this girl has developed. The flowers are distributed throughout her structure, and even after the cleanup, she remains incredibly full. The close-ups are where things get really interesting. You can see the flower structure becoming more defined. You can see the increasing resin coverage. You can see the fresh pistils. You can see the calyxes stacking. And then you notice those little imperfections. A couple of tips. A few spots. Nothing dramatic. Just part of the plant's story. And I actually like documenting that. Because a real grow isn't a catalogue photograph. Plants aren't manufactured. They're alive. They respond. They adapt. They occasionally complain. And sometimes they simply say: "I'm going to be amazing anyway." 😂💎 💎 Beast Mode I think this is officially the right name for her current chapter. Beast Mode. Because she's not just large. She's not just flowering. She's not just producing a nice central cola. She's building an entire network of substantial flowers. She's filling her vertical structure. She's developing frost. She's carrying an enormous amount of plant material. And even after getting cleaned up... she still looks like a beast. One of the bestiest beasts in the room. There. I said it again. 😂💎🌿 🧠 What She Keeps Teaching Me Black Diamond Pheno A has been one of those plants that repeatedly reminds me not to underestimate what genetics can do. From the beginning, she didn't need much manipulation. She developed her own architecture. She distributed flowers throughout the plant. She maintained a strong, lush canopy. And now she's showing us what that architecture can become as flowering progresses. The lesson isn't: "Do exactly what I did." The lesson is: Watch the plant. Understand the structure. Understand the environment. Understand the room. And then make decisions based on what is actually happening. That's what I love about this project. The plants are constantly giving us information. We just have to pay attention. 🔮 Looking Ahead We're moving deeper into the flowering cycle now, and this is where I'm going to be watching several things very closely. 🌸 Flower swelling ❄️ Resin development 🌿 Overall canopy health 💎 Development of the lower flowers 🍃 Response to the selective defoliation 👀 Those minor leaf imperfections 🌱 Overall plant maturity The most exciting question remains: How much more can those flowers build? Because if the current trajectory continues... we could be looking at something very impressive. And I absolutely want to see where this beast takes us. 💎 Let the Beast Shine There are plants that you grow. There are plants that you admire. And then there are plants that make you stop in front of the tent and just stare for a minute. Black Diamond Pheno A is becoming one of those. She's big. She's powerful. She's loaded with flowers. She's getting frostier. She's developing beautifully. And yes... she needed a little cleanup. We removed some beautiful leaves. We removed some older leaves. We opened some space. We gave her a little more breathing room. And she's still standing there looking at me like: "Was that all?" 😂💎 Yes, girl. That was all. Now keep doing your thing. Because you're doing it exceptionally well. 💚 Final Thoughts Week 9 has given us another chapter in the story of this incredible phenotype. Black Diamond Pheno A continues to show why phenotype hunting is so fascinating. She's not simply growing. She's expressing. She's developing her own architecture. Her own flower distribution. Her own personality. And now we're watching that personality turn into serious flower production. A few minor imperfections don't change the bigger picture. They're simply something to observe. Because overall... she's outstanding. She's one of the strongest personalities in this room. One of the most impressive plants to photograph. And definitely one of the ones I'm most curious to see at the finish line. So let's not overcomplicate it. Let's give her what she needs. Let's keep watching. Let's keep learning. And most importantly... let's make this beast shine. 💎🔥🌿 🙏 Thank You A huge thank you to everyone following the 8×8 Adventure week after week. Thank you to GrowDiaries for giving growers a place to document these journeys and learn from one another. Thank you to Zamnesia for the genetics that gave us this incredible Black Diamond phenotype. Thank you to Plagron for the nutrition supporting the plants throughout this adventure. Thank you to Future of Grow LED for providing the main lighting driving the room. Thank you to Lumiflora for bringing the under-canopy lighting into the experiment and giving us another dimension to observe. And thank you to TrolMaster for helping maintain the stable environment behind the scenes. And finally... thank you for following, commenting, asking questions and sharing this adventure with me. Every plant has a story. Every phenotype has a personality. And Black Diamond Pheno A? She's writing hers in capital letters. 💎 BEAST MODE. One of the bestiest in the room. 😂💚 Let's make her shine. Growers Love! 💚🌿💎
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I didn't top it yet, new leaf looks great ;) Switching to flowering mode coming week...
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Bonjour les amis. Cette semaine les fleurs ont pris du volume et surtout l'odeur est est nettement plus forte. Dès que j'ouvre mon placard une odeur terrible se répand. Ma femme est terrifiée. C'est la dernière semaine théorique mais il faut encore quelques jours, je pense récolter la semaine prochaine. Les 2 grandes plantes ont une forme et un volume normal, je vais les libérer de leurs liens très rapidement. La petite semble encore plus chargée en résine. Je n’arrose que à l'eau pH ~6.8. Led 80%. Bon grow à tous. M.
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Day 78. Now this is the canopy I was looking for! I am so excited🤩 Look at the difference with the last update post 3 days ago! All because I changed the blue/white light to red. 2 more days before we go into flower. Day 80 the scrognet is in! Today I placed the scrognet and changed the timer to 12/12. Lets flower these gorgeous ladies! Yesterday I removed some new grown side shoots again. The next defoliating will be done after the first few weeks of flower.
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Here we are at the end of my plant's wonderful eleventh week of flowering, another week full of exciting developments and new discoveries. The constant and unstoppable growth of the plant has come to an end, showing a beauty and vitality that are a true spectacle for the eyes. 😎 The abundant layer of resin that has formed is a clear sign of the health and well-being of the plant, once again confirming the benefits of the premium nutrients used throughout the entire growth cycle. TrollMaster's "TENT-X" environmental control system continues to prove its worth, precisely maintaining optimal temperature and humidity levels to promote vigorous plant growth. The combination of advanced and precision technologies ensures that plants can thrive in a controlled and conducive environment😎 I am thrilled to share with you the latest video showing the temperature, humidity and VPD trends of this last week of flowering, providing further demonstration of the extraordinary performance of the TrollMaster control system and its synergy with the other elements of the grow room.With each week that passes, the anticipation for the new discoveries and challenges that await us continues to grow. With the constant support of Plagron nutrients, trust in the TrollMaster control system and the excellence of MEDIC GROW LED lighting, I am sure that I am always ready to face any challenge! Thank you again for being by my side in this extraordinary adventure, dedicated to exploring the wonders of plant cultivation. Together we continue to look to the future with confidence and enthusiastically anticipate the successes that each new week holds for us. 💪👽🌱✨ REVIEW TENT-X: I was pleasantly surprised by the effectiveness and functionality of the TROL MASTER! This device is simply amazing, as it has allowed me to monitor the environments I use it in accurately and efficiently. One of the most impressive features of this device is its ability to operate LED lights easily and intuitively. Thanks to its user-friendly interface, I could easily customize the lighting of my rooms according to my tastes and different situations. I particularly appreciated the possibility of programming the sunrise/sunset simulation, thus creating a more natural situation.But that's not all: the device goes further and manages to keep me constantly informed about the humidity and temperature of the surrounding environment. This feature has proven to be very useful, especially in times when I am not present. I was able to set humidity limits, so that the device would immediately alert me if the levels exceeded the desired threshold. This allowed me to intervene promptly and avoid excessive oscillations. The accuracy of the temperature measurements was another welcome surprise. The device is equipped with a high precision sensor that allows me to constantly monitor the temperature of the rooms. Here too I was able to set temperature limits, allowing me to be notified immediately if they were exceeded. Overall, I was really satisfied. The TENT-X exceeded all my expectations. Its ease of use, precision of measurements and possibility of customization make it an indispensable tool for those seeking to monitor and optimize environmental conditions.
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( 4cm in height ) Stress trained this lady 3 days ago because she was getting too long and slinky so I decided to help hear out and give some support. Very good growth development thus far and grows exactly like a Do-Si-Wine should. Growing strong at 3 nodes already. ( 4.5cm in height ) This lady is growing at her own pace. At this moment I’m waiting patiently until this lady catches some speed because she has been slowed down the leaf development has been disoriented The 2nd node is a 3-fanned leaf and the other side is just a 2-fanned leaf so growth is weird and a bit slow. The 3rd node developing looks like it both going to be 3-fanned leaves so I hope when that is properly developed this lady will growing nicely
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in Blütewoche 4 habe ich Komposttee zubereitet - dieser wurde 24 Stunden mit einer Pumpe belüftet. Nach 20 Stunden ist der Geruch schon recht intensiv - das kann ja nur was werden ;-) 0,75L hat jede Pflanze erhalten. Zudem wurde massiv entlaubt, untenrum und zum Mittelpunkt hin.
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Day 36, 25th of October 2021: Week 6 ;) First day of the 6th week.... This week is not about LST anymore it is FIMing week that means all of them have FIMmed on all of their "heads" so like each plant approx 6-8 times.... Together, they have strong smell even without flowering lol 😆 So yeah, Mastdoson Kush is still the same very strong and resistant I beleive they won't strech that much so no need any Topping for them. They should stay short and bushy hopefully with nice buds :) RQS girls: Gelato Cookies 🍪 is amazing nothing really changed she will be I think a larger lady when starts flowering. I am not sure about streching but I reckon a double size maximum. I am very satisifed with this genetics lovely and first class. Northern Light for me looks a bit tiny but little bushy so we will see it is obvious that she does not need Topping at all for her midget style... There are nice branches but she has got some deficiency. Hopefully it won't effect on her performance in the future I am so curious about her. It is okay if she won't get large -large but I expect a chunky lady at least :) Spliffs Seeds ladies: Well, CBD Medi Kush is my favourite lady from here she will be another strong and big plant I think. Very cool I like this one even the smell already amazing! Smooth chill.... all good 👍. I think she will be a problem free strain in the future but let's see ;) Afghani Gold typical bushy midget Indica with fan big leafs 🍃 nice creation she will be nice as well, I don't reckon with big strech :) We will see what comes and obviously I am excited here as well. I wanna see a chunky lady. Hopefully she will fulfill my dreams lol 😆 Spliffs Strawberry 🍓 the typical Sativa with that "saw blade" style leaves... Well, here I am afraid a bit of streching as she just FIMmed and Sativa however, I beleive she will be cool with that :) She looks pretty a bit lighter in colour. Honestly I don't really have big experience with Sativas mostly Indicas and hybrids but I am pretty sure that I can handle the situation. I know it will take a bit longer for her to flower and also she won't be the chunky numero uno but I still expect great things haha :) Blue Berry she is the hybrid lady and still looks a bit pale for me obviously she has got some deficiency but she will make it let's see what comes when she turns to flower.... I am excited 😁 I wanna give them several days before the darkness period which is 3 days and the from next week switching to 12/12. They are FIMmed only so it doesn't really stress them to give them much extra time to recover before flowering. I think it will be the right time to switch on the next week because I can see they really want to flower 🌼 ☺️ 😅 But for now lamp is still 18 hours on, set to be on 150W (approx 60% of the max) ventilation is on for 10 minutes in every 2 hours but the extraction fan is 18 hours on with the lamp... Humidity approximately is the same 50% and the temperature as well +/- 1-2 Celsius. Water intake increased approx 0.12-0.15L per day per plant. Fertilization is the same Epsom salt once a week, and then 2x a week Biobizz Family included BioGrow, BioBloom, TopMax and of course - Vitalink bat gunao also. Ratio is above. So that's all let's see 👀
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06/12/23 - Day 0 Here we go again!! After a successful run of 3 strains, I've decided to pop a 3 pack of MilkyWay F1 from RQS. 3 seeds are in a wet paper towel, inside a plastic sandwich bag, into a dark warm cupboard. Im hoping they all germinate!! LET'S GROW!!! 08/12/23 - Day 2 from seed All 3 seeds have cracked and tap roots have come out, so i've put them in the peat pots. I mixed coco coir and perlite at 70/30. I've also decided to add a teaspoon of DYNOMYCO’s Mycorrhizae in each little pot too. 10/12/23 - Day 4 2 out of 3 have sprouted, the 3rd isn't too far behind. 11/12/23 3 out of 3 are out and thriving!! we're well within schedule and we're off to a very good start!! 12/12/23 - Day 6 I've decided to move all 3 into their final pots today! I'm using Plagron AllMix in 12L pots with a nice big drip dish. Into the tent they go!!!
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This is a very interesting week! After mainlining, I transplanted the lady into a 3L AirPot, adding 3 spoons of Mykos by Xtreme Gardening, 45g of BioMagno Algae and 5g of BioMagno Neem Flour. I uploaded a time-lapse video that shows the process. Then I fed her with the nutes you see above this comment, in 1L of water (actually, 750ml would be better). I hope you liked this week content! Day 28 (May 7, 2019): 0.5L of tap water with Activator @ 0.5ml/L and Rizostimo @ 1ml/L.
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Start of Week 11. I'm DEFINITELY chopping this during this week. I have a photo in the tent with it, (also why it's been on 12/12 if you have been following along), and it's getting ready and I just want to dry it all at once so I can do a complete reset. SO... I took some better pictures of the plant. Enjoy. PS: In some of the pictures, you'll see my other plant. The Flo White clone on the right side of the tent. :)
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Day 83...they are ready for harvest however I only just began flushing. This is my 1st try and I missed timed it. Buds are heavy and reseinous. Smelling sweet. Maybe I havest in the morning and forget the flush. Day 84..harvest pheno that was topped. The buds are not as dense on this one....I did not flush this one...the other I will flush for two day and give 24hrs darkest before I havest. Which will be sometime later today. Day 85..chopped the others today.
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Defoliated at day 8 and it’s grown so fast it looks like I have not done it. I will do another round of defoliation on day 21. Happy with the canopy and hoping they do not stretch much more lol.