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CHANGED MY EMAIL ADDRESS ON GROW DIARIES AND IT WONT LET ME DO A CONFIRMATION FOR MY NEW EMAIL, SO NOW I CANT LIKE ANYTHING, COMMENT ON ANYTHING OR CHAT. SORRY MY FRIENDS. I HOPE GROW DIARIES TEAM WILL HELP ME OUT SOON🙏🙏🤞🤞 EVERYTHING IS CHOPPED NOW FROM THE: 8X8 GROW TENT WITH THE NEW FC-E6500, FC4800 AND TSW2000 AND THE NEW 5X5 GROW TENT WITH A TSW2000 AND AUTOMATIC EXHAUST FAN WITH CHARCOAL FILTER KIT👍and they were being fed GREEN BUZZ LIQUIDS all organic/vegan fertilizers🤘. I only pinched the tops on 2 or 3 plants but I defoliated every plant ALOT. it slowed the vertical growth alot but it's exactly what I wanted. I can keep track of the plant sizes, how they grew, how healthy they were, how easy they were to grow and how good the final product is👍 every plant was given the same strength of GREEN BUZZ LIQUIDS and I'm keeping track of which plants were happy with the suggested amounts and which plants seemed to want more or less🤘 I chopped 22 photoperiods at 125 days. I chopped 8 more at 130 days of growing. And the last 13 were chopped at 141 days of growing. I'm impressed with how good my mars hydro gear is. Always gets em nice and frosty and everything stinks alot. VERY HAPPY WITH GREEN BUZZ LIQUIDS. I've used lots of brands and this is my NEW favorite brand. And with it being vegan/organic, it makes it even better. Joints burn soo clean👍 The girls are loving their 8x8 MARS MANSION and THE 5X5 INLAW SUITE and everything is doing good and looking nice and getting bigger👍 They are all starting to finish now and the bud sacs are swelling and they are all getting nice and frosty and starting to stink ALOT. MARS HYDRO ALWAYS GETS EM FROSTY👍.I AM NEVER DISAPPOINTED With how awesome these lights are🤘. KEEP KILLING IT MARS🤘👏👏 BREEDERS AND SEEDS: DIVINE SEEDS: MAZAR, OPIUM, WHITE WIDOW, OG KUSH, PABLO ESCOBAR, DIVINE INDICA. AUTO WHITE WIDOW AUTO PABLO ESCOBAR AUTO WHITE RUSSIAN AUTO FRACTAL AUTO MONTREAL AUTO OPIUM AUTO KABUL AUTO MAZAR. WEEDSEED EXPRESS: GREEN CRACK, GHOST TRAIN HAZE, LITHIUM OG, CHEESE. DOCTORS CHOICE: DC KUSH, AUTO NIAGARA, AUTO ROCK MACHINE. EXOTIC SEEDS: HIPPIE BERRY, MALASANA GELATO, EXOTIC ANIMAL. GENE/MEME SEEDS: BLACK HELL. ORIGINAL SENSIBLE SEEDS: PURPLE PUNCH COOKIES, WEDDING CAKE, PURE KUSH, GORILLA COOKIES. SWEET SEEDS: BLACK JACK, GORILLA GIRL, SWEET ZKITTLES. EMERALD TRIANGLE SEEDS: GORILLA GLUE, MASTODON KUSH. SEEDSMAN SEEDS: BLACK SUGAR, PEYOTE FORUM, PEYOTE WIFI, BADAZZ COOKIES OG, PURPLE GHOST CANDY, STRAWBERRY BANANA GRAPE, L.A. PEYOTE KUSH, PEYOTE WIFI CBD, FUEL DOG, CRITICAL PURPLE KUSH. AMSTERDAM MARIJUANA SEEDS: GIRL SCOUT COOKIES EXTREME, GREEN CRACK. QUEBEC CANNABIS SEEDS: BRUCE BANNER, GREEN CRACK, QUEBEC CBD 20:1. I 💚 GROWING MARIJUANA: SKYWALKER OG, BANANA KUSH, BLUEBERRY CBD. 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Perfect for commercial & home horticulture. FC4800 LED GROW LIGHT: GET THE MAX FROM MARS👍: Welcome one of  the newest members of the Mars Hydro family🤜🤛🤘. The Mars Hydro FC 4800 480W LED Grow Light can accommodate up to a 4' x 4' area for flowering. It has OVER 2000 LED chips consisting of the best selling Samsung LM301B diodes which has a Luminous Efficacy of: 220 lm/W 0.2 W, 3 V mid power, Osram 660nm Diodes, Infrared light and UV LIGHT👍. It boasts the incredible efficiency of 2.8 µmol/J, maximum 2.5gram yield per watt with 30% higher Average PPFD. This High-intensity spectrum is beneficial for plants at all stages - from veg to bloom, and creates Big dense Buds👍. achieve 50% higher yields & quality compared with the old lights! Only consumes 480W for 4x4ft personal grows, and 3x3ft for commerical grow. It comes with a dimmer and daisy chain function with a  maximum of up to 15 lights, the master light controls the rest👍. 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New week for the world canna cup grow Couple beans have bite the dust but i still have enough plants for full grow some that are growing not so great so have some other beans still in shot glass if more would fall down 13/2/22 Most of baby's growing good some not so great . So i decided to drop some more beans in shot glas Barney's farm banana punch 👊 and Spliff purple berry Kush 15/2/22 It's not always perfection and showing the good bad ore ugly it's all part off it would have liked 3 beans each strain but now i drop some other strain so not nothing lost wil be having more flavour in the room nothing bad about that either Purple berry Kush from SpliffSeeds doing good. and i gots one ETHOSGenetics Ethos Apex R1 growing given to me from a good buddy not gone call names here otherwise people gone dm him for free seeds you know who you are sexy mofo 😉 See y'all next week visit www.marshydro.eu for your best gear and use the PROMO CODE: DEVILSBUD Some info about the Marshydro FC-4800 Superb Quality LED Chips: The whole light is composed of 1206 pcs Samsung lm301b and Osram 660nm chips. More than two times as many LEDs are used to drive the grow lights at low currents and to avoid overdrive. Quality is guaranteed and efficiency is up to 2.8 μmol/j. Even PAR Distribution and High PPFD Output: The multi-light bar design and the densely distributed light chips enable the LED grow lights to achieve the optimum PPFD required for plant growth over the entire effective coverage area. Specifically Designed Spectrum: To ensure even plant growth, blue and red light are enhanced on the basis of a full spectrum combination. Not only does this accelerate plant growth, but it also improves the yield and quality of the plants at the same time. Dimming Daisy Chain Function: The dimming function saves on electricity costs and enables brightness from 10% to 100% for the different stages of plant growth. A single master light can connect up to 30 lights in a daisy-chain system. Business LED Grow Light: The light's wavy heat sink dissipates heat quickly and the IP65 waterproof allows the light to operate in humid conditions. 180° collapsible feature for easier installation. All these features provide favorable assistance for commercial cultivation. And some tent info ●【Lock All Light Insid】MARS HYDRO Grow Tent Interior is made of diamond mylar. Non-toxic to the environment, no harm to plants. High-quality 1680D canvas being double stitched, (ALL OTHERS BRAND grow tent is 601D canvas) which is tear-proof for perfect light locking, No light leaks or rips at all. ●【Durability Grow Tent】Stable Metal corner adapters and poles are the trustful supporters of the tent. No rusting nor paint-falling. Quick easy tool-free installation. Carries strong heavy-duty SBS zippers, double layer lining to create a light-proof seal. ●【Easy Observation of your Plants】Special peeks window made by double layers of cloths. Observe the growing conditions of your plants without opening the tent and avoid disturbing plants. The peek window also serves to dissipate heat and ventilate air. ●【Removable Tray Keep Clean】The package includes a removable waterproof floor tray to hold soil and fallen leaves. The tray can be taken out easily to wash. Removable and water-proof makes cleaning easy. ●【Good Ventilation&Fast Assembly】 Circular double-sleeved vent holes with adjustable nylon strap for air circulation by exhaust fan, ducting, carbon filter, or reflector. Better allows proper light, heat, and airflow. Quick tool-free installation. Reinforced by a sturdy metal frame to ensure security and stability, supports up to 140lb. Perfectly safeguard your plants to thrive even in winter
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D42 - The beginning of the second week of flower, and all I did was tighten the LST wires. D43 - I opened the tent today and realized I forgot to fill up the humidifier last night. The RH in the tent was only 29%. Oops! I gave the girl about one liter of compost tea that I started brewing yesterday. D47 - A couple of days ago, I discovered thrips in my other tent, so I sprayed those plants with a chili tincture. Fortunately, I haven't seen any signs of thrips in this tent, but you can never be too careful with those little buggers. However, since this girl is in flower I couldn't spray her. I ordered some predatory mites, and today, they arrived, and I put them into the tents. D48 -The last day of the second week of flower. Not much to report as she is just doing her thing and fattening up the buds.
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D42 - Today is the first day in the sixth week of veg for #2 and the fifth for #1. It has been six days since the first topping for the first girl, so I went ahead and topped her for the second time. I kept a couple of clones from her this time since she is so vigorous. I also had planned to do the third and final topping on the second girl but knew that I had to buy some more soil staples first. However, this morning a red warning showed up in my Corona warn app. It's the first warning I have ever gotten, but I'm triple vaccinated, of course, and I was wearing my N95 mask for this five-minute exposure, but I want to act responsibly and quarantine for a few days, just in case. So I improvised with BBQ skewers and some electrical tape. The skewers won't hold that well, but the branches are still small, so it shouldn't be a problem until I can venture out again. The cover crop was getting a bit unruly again, so I cut it back again. Finally, I gave both girls around 1.2-liters of water @ pH 6.3 and added a couple of qtips with peppermint oil to deter pests. D43 - I gave each girl about two liters of compost tea that I started brewing yesterday. A bit soon, possibly since I watered them only yesterday, but I needed to feed the girls in the other tent, so these girls got some as well. D45 - Aaaaaaaaaarrrrrgggghhhh! Thrips have found their way into the tent. Lately, I've noticed some discoloration on the older leaves but haven't thought much about it. Today though, it was much more pronounced. I took out my loupe and microscope, and sure enough, I could see thrips larvae. Ugh. I ordered some predatory mites immediately to help with the problem, but they won't get here until a few days, and I want to start fighting the infestation as soon as possible. So, I went out shopping and picked up some pure alcohol, chili flakes, and a spray bottle. After soaking the flakes for a couple of hours, I strained the mixture and prepared a 1:10 solution with distilled water in the spray bottle. I removed all older leaves that were affected most and then sprayed all the remaining leaves, taking care to get them soaked on both sides. This chili tincture is nasty stuff, though, and I was coughing like mad, and the snot was flowing like a spring-river. Next time I'll wear a mask! I also sprayed the clones outside the tent and the Chocodope girl in my other tent, just in case. The Colorado Cookies girl is in flower, though, so I couldn't spray her. She has no sign of infestation, but I'll treat her as well with the mites when they get here. D47 - I resprayed the girls yesterday with the chili tincture to ensure I got to all the little critters, and today, the predatory mites arrived. I hung one sachet on each plant, and I hope that's the end of the little buggers. D48 - The end of another week of veg. The second girl thrives after her third topping, and I will do the third and final topping on the first girl in a couple of days. Once that is done, I can install the scrog net. As for the thrips, I can still see larvae, but they are far and few in between. Hopefully, the predatory mites will soon make short work of them. I haven't even flipped yet, but there are already flowers in the tent!!! Alfalfa flowers that is :D
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All going well now, just lowered my setup by 35cm to gain more space for the ladies... also now my reservoir is below the cabin instead of inside, so much cooler water now (in fact I had to pace a heater to avoid temperature below 18˚C)
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All going well now, just lowered my setup by 35cm to gain more space for the ladies... also now my reservoir is below the cabin instead of inside, so much cooler water now (in fact I had to pace a heater to avoid temperature below 18˚C)
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Día 23 = Día 1 Floración:🔹Cambio el fotoperiodo a 12/12. No aguantaba mas. 📆 Día 2: 🔹 Riego según la tabla de nutrientes con una EC de 1000. 🔹Poda de 1 nudo bajo x planta. En uno o dos días le quitaré el otro para evitar estrés. 📆 Dia 3: 🔹Pulverización con Rootbastic a 0.1ml/l. 🔹Poda del segundo nudo bajo. 📆 Día 4: 🔹Pulverizo con Acti-vera y Alg-a-mic, 1 y 1 ml/l respectivamente. 🔹Coloco las plantas más pequeñas en el lugar con más luz. 🔹Puntualizar que las plantas han estado hasta hoy sin medidor de pH, a si que tengo que estar orgulloso por los resultados. 📆 Dia 5: 🔹Pulverizo con Acti-vera y Alg-a-mic, 1 y 1 ml/l respectivamente. 📆 Día 6: 🔹Pulverizo con Acti-vera y Alg-a-mic, 1 y 1 ml/l respectivamente. 🔹 Relleno las macetas de tierra faltante, después del riego. 📆 Día 7: 🔹 Riego según la tabla de nutrientes, he estado cinco días sin regar, ya que empape demasiado las macetas. Esta vez aplicaré algo menos agua con solución.
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So it’s the end of Week 5, Day 35 for the Sweet Seeds Gorilla Girl XL auto flowering grow. I have come to the conclusion that these four plants are not going to be XL after their pre-flower stretch. Overall the plants are healthy but the prolonged low humidity and temperatures have robbed them of the vigorous growth documented in my previous Sweet Seeds diary (Cream Mandarine XL Autos). I am disappointed that this will most likely be an XS harvest but a tiny quantity of quality bud is better than nothing. I gave them their first feeding of GHE FloraNova Grow fertilizer at a rate of 1.25 ml/gallon and this is 1/4 of a full dose that would be given to a photosensitive strain. I am still watering every fourth day at a rate of 2.8 litres per plant or 0.7 of a litre per plant per day. I will only be using the fertilizer every other watering or every eight days. That’s about it for this update and on to… Mom’s Tip for Week #5- To Tuck or Take? The when, where, why and how to defoliate Autoflowers successfully…. Lets start with some basic Biology- Photosynthesis is the process by which green plants take in sunlight, water and Carbon Dioxide and transform it into energy in the form of sugars that feed the plant and make it grow. So essentially, every fan leaf on your plant is a solar panel collecting light and therefore valuable in it’s own right. I always try to tuck my leaves if possible before considering removal as my plants need all the energy they can get to power through until harvest. But sometimes tucking isn’t enough or just isn’t an option anymore so here are my suggestions for taking the fan leaves from your Cannabis plants if needed. When- defoliating Autos can be done anytime throughout the grow although it’s generally not done within the first 3-4 weeks. The plants are usually quite small and those early weeks are valuable growing time that these plants simply can’t afford to miss. This is when I find leaf tucking to be most valuable, allowing the plants to keep what few solar panels they have while also allowing the grower to position the leaves so that they are out of the way. I personally find that I defoliate my plants the most over the final 3-4 weeks of the grow as foliage is dying off on it’s own by that point and a few less leaves at harvest time is always a good thing! Of course anytime you see dead/dying or diseased foliage, it should be removed as needed throughout the grow. Where- defoliating Autos is a delicate balance due to their small size and short lifespan. If my plants are healthy, thriving and tucking is no longer an option, I will only remove fan leaves if they are covering/blocking new growth or potential bud sites. As the plants age and the foliage begins to die off naturally, I tend to remove the oldest, lowest growth first working my way up the plant as needed until harvest. Why- defoliating Autos is done for a few basic reasons but only as an extreme in my garden when all else fails. Removing certain large leaves will allow more light into the lower portion of the plant’s canopy reaching young branches or potential bud sites. As the plants age, it also helps with increasing airflow around your swelling buds thus reducing your risks for mold and fungi in humid grow environments. Removing any and all dead/dying or diseased foliage is absolutely necessary in keeping your plants healthy and the grow room clean and pest free. How- defoliating Autos is simple if you keep it simple. Only remove what you absolutely have to and use a sterilized set of sharp pruners for a clean, controlled cut. As the plants age and the foliage begins to die off naturally, just wait. What doesn’t fall off on it’s own will snap off with a simple twist of the leaf’s stem. If the leaves don’t come off with ease, they’re just not quite ready yet so be patient. Be mindful that removing the solar panels from your Cannabis plants is always risky business but Autoflowers are even more challenging in their own way. Smaller plants with a lower leaf to bud ratio and a short lifespan means less room for error so paying close attention to the when, where, why and how is crucial for successfully defoliating Autoflowers. Tuck if you can, only take what you absolutely have to and of course- never take more than 25% of your plant’s overall foliage at one time as this can be devastating or deadly to even the healthiest of plants. Allow your plants to take the lead and they will show you which leaves are ready to go- at what time, all on their own just as nature intended.
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BEST GROW YET! I'm so pleased with these baby girls! They are everything you could ask out of an auto! I'm really really happy with this round of plants! They are getting VERY stinky and sparkly! Installed my new flood to drain table so now hopefully this will be EVERY grow from here on out! SUPA PLANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well its a late update from down under.. and its been shit. No other words for it. After all that un seasonal tropical rain a month back my Caramelo was hating life with water logged roots and was wilting badly for more days than id like, she recovered just fine... or so I thought. Thats when I noticed the Spider mites and a small patch of mould rot on a pre flower bud, so I grabbed my trusty Lime Sulfur bottle and made up what I THOUGHT was my usual 1/2 strength mix to use.....But turns out due to a new smaller bottle and me using the wrong mix to start with (I normally use 1/2 the 30ml per lt mix for seedlings even on fully mature plants to avoid burning em, But I used the 50mls per ltr ratio at what I thought was 1/2 strength) AND my old bottle turns out to be 1.25ltrs and my new one was 750mls!! So long story finalized is I used 1.25 X the normal strength mix and burnt the shit out of ALL new shoots and pre flowers. Thus why im only posting a vid of the cat with the ZkittleZ who is loving life harder than any plant Ive had before -So will be focusing a bit more on her for a while now.
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Okay so this week things have started to really take off in every way. Buds glistening and fattening up more by the day. Extreme resin production on the cereal milk, sugar and fan leaves on the cereal milks are COATED in trichomes. The wedding cakes also have a fair resin production and covered in trichomes and are seriously starting to fatten up! The smell is very pungent and come out of nowhere compared to last week. The wedding cake has a sweet, earthy Almost vanilla like smell and the cereal milk has a very pungent cookies sweet smell with hints of fruityness. So far so good cant wait to see how these turn out. Been told they are 8-9 week flowering strains from other people who have grown the same Cuttings so not long left!
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Okay so this week things have started to really take off in every way. Buds glistening and fattening up more by the day. Extreme resin production on the cereal milk, sugar and fan leaves on the cereal milks are COATED in trichomes. The wedding cakes also have a fair resin production and covered in trichomes and are seriously starting to fatten up! The smell is very pungent and come out of nowhere compared to last week. The wedding cake has a sweet, earthy Almost vanilla like smell and the cereal milk has a very pungent cookies sweet smell with hints of fruityness. So far so good cant wait to see how these turn out. Been told they are 8-9 week flowering strains from other people who have grown the same Cuttings so not long left!
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Well its another update from down under.. and things are getting better with the Caramelo. She got badly burnt from my mistake of using too strong lime sulfur spray to treat spider mites and mold issues before they could take hold. And its kinda worked. lols...the mites are still there but reduced alot in number but I was almost ready to chop her after I saw how badly burnt all her new shoots were. But Im glad I decided to wait a bit as she has recovered faster than expected and while im sure she still has issue at the root level from the rain drenching her for near on a week- she basically stunted after that and never showed much stretch at all when switching to flower-she grew maybe 15cms in height total after that so Im assuming some kind of root rot has her and any harvest will be a bonus. In saying that Im still not going to be suprised if she suddenly dies or gets badly infected with bud rot out of the blue as Im nursing her hard just to get her to this stage and in my experience a nursed plant may produce a yield but it will be weaker than its meant to be and reduced by around 50% of the yield you should have got. if she was indoor id have ripped her out after the sighs she was stunted presented and started over with a new plant. But out doors I dont have that luxury so I will nurse her thru and hope for the best but expect less than average results. Zkittles though is loving life and just LOOK at her!! When you realize she was the same size as the Caramelo when the rain hit and now look at the difference- thats why i say when you see obvious signs of stunting-rip the plant if you can and start over, it may recover but if it was serious then the plant will never show its true potential and you may think those genetics are shit. Ive never grown the Caramelo before now so if i judge it on this result I will say the genetics are shit when the plant likely had root rot from 3 weeks before even switching to flower. And the BC buds hash plant is FINALLY flowering too now. For a 90% indica it sure is taking the longest to flower. I wonder if its the old school genetics at play here-This strain been around since the 70's while the ZkittleZ is a modern hybrid so maybe the newer genetics really are all they are cracked up to be. Thats why I love doing side by side grows out doors with diff genetics and see what they can really do. You should see my mates BC hashys- lmao, he said he wanted bigger plants than last year as he got "bonsai" plants from someone else. Now he has to tie down trees that are growing over his 6ft fence!! And they only just went into flower last week. But on that note- Will update more now as things progress towards harvest. Cheers for stopping by and if your still reading this-nice work, most pple cant read shit these days so double points for making it this far.