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Vincent_Van_Grogh Vincent_Van_Grogh
3 years ago
DAY 24 -- You can only tuck leaves so much... And I did just that for the last few days or so. But the new growth was in the shadows so I went for some light defoliation of inner leaves only -- no more than 3-4 small inner leaves per plant. The girls are pretty low as I went a little hard on the LST... and early... There's hopefully another week or veg to go. We will see. D28 -- they bushed out. This should flower in the next week or two. Will continue to LST AND defo during transition. Will no longer update plant per plant as all three seem to be chugging along well and in full veg mode! NOOB GROWER THOUGHTS, WEEK 4 -- I just keep of fiddling with the girls more than I should. I wonder when this feeling will end!? This whole "I need to do something" to help... When really the best thing to do is to just let them go. Funny how that applies in real life and not just growing. Hmmm...
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Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Groghstarted grow question 3 years ago
I'm wanting to harvest the earliest possible -- long story, time constraints. Question: seeing my plants now, what's the earliest I can harvest without sacrificing too much potency? I know early harvest means more head high, later means couch lock. I'm okay with that trade off.
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SpiderMite
SpiderMiteanswered grow question 3 years ago
Not knowing your timeline. I would say you need to use every minute of it then harvest.
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DreamIT
DreamITweek 1
Enjoy growth mate 🤘🍀🦄
DreamIT
DreamIT
@Vincent_Van_Grogh,it's always a pleasure man :) keep them ventilated and treat them well 😉 😁🦄
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@DreamIT, whew!! That calms my nerves a bit. If you have the same RH, w all ur grow experience, then hopefully I should be okay too! Thanks IT! I always appreciate you taking the time!
DreamIT
DreamIT
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, No, never heard of it, but I don't rule out that it's possible, you always discover a lot of new things. However, if the area where you grow already has good ventilation, 50-55% humidity is good and you have no problems with mold (this is the average humidity I keep in flowering) 🤘
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homerjgangia
homerjgangiaweek 0
Good luck with your grow mate!💪💪
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@homerjgangia, got any advice or pointers on lowering RH at late flower without buying a humidifier? I want to avoid mold/ bud rot but can't get it below 52-55...
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@homerjgangia, Day 20 w these ladies. Too early to light defoliation?
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@homerjgangia, thanks homer! You too! Hope your girls are well!
Lacrima
Lacrimaweek 0
Happy Growing ! 😊💪
Lacrima
Lacrima
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, dont worry mate its good enough
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@Lacrima, got any advice or pointers on lowering RH at late flower without buying a humidifier? I want to avoid mold/ bud rot but can't get it below 52-55...
Lacrima
Lacrima
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, Hi mate , i would wait at least one more week
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weed__mee
weed__meeweek 5
I wish you a great growth 😊🍀🌱🌷
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@weed__mee, makes sense. I've heard people say dry ice... But sounds more complex... Thanks for taking the time!
weed__mee
weed__mee
@Vincent_Van_Grogh,add a fan and water only when the lights come on
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@weed__mee, got any advice or pointers on lowering RH at late flower without buying a humidifier? I want to avoid mold/ bud rot but can't get it below 52-55...
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Rock_n_Roll_Randy
Rock_n_Roll_Randyweek 6
Put some lingerie on the girls. Sexy🤣🤣🤜🤛 good job bro
Rock_n_Roll_Randy
Rock_n_Roll_Randy
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, haha so you know it's not ice and snow money🤣🤣🤣🤣🤜🤛 and our cars aren't moose🤣🤣. No problem my friend and we will see ya around for sure bro
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@Rock_n_Roll_Randy, saw the dehumidi pics! Thanks! I'm familiar with the loonies and toonies bro! Went to UBC for university (I'm not Canadian). I actually blame BC chronic for making me a pothead. Hehe! Grass there is just waaay too good! Thanks for taking the time Randy... See around the chat or so!
Rock_n_Roll_Randy
Rock_n_Roll_Randy
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, my dehumidifier is about 5 yrs old bro. And I think it was about $150 canadian dollars. Canadian dollars are made of ice and snow🤣🤣🤣🤣
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The_Good_Twin
The_Good_Twinweek 1
They’re looking great! Watching something grow into something from nothing is exciting to me. Just knowing what they’re growing into increases the excitement and anticipation for me. Enjoy it, I do! I saw a comment from another grower on someone else’s diary the other day that I believe hit this notion on the head. The grower wrote, “Smoking weed May not be addictive, but growing it is.” I was hit by the truth in that statement as it reflects my own ideas and thoughts. Beware you may get addicted to growing too. 😎 Good luck, and happy growing!
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@The_Good_Twin,that's makes sense man! Yeah, so even if it's in this range.. as long as there is air movement I should be good. Will add additional oscillating fan and turn up intake to ensure air is in and out quickly. As long as I see most leaves rustle regularly I should be good then (?)... Whew! *Wipes forehead from relief*
The_Good_Twin
The_Good_Twin
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, An RH of 52-55% should be alright. The research I’ve done says that a RH of 65 to 62 is best for drying once you’ve harvested, and that a RH of 52-55 should be dry enough to prevent most molds from appearing. I live in a climate where my own RH never gets above 55%, but generally hangs around 38-55% depending on the outside weather. In my own opinion, 52-55% RH should be fine to prevent mold from forming. I’m NO expert, but from what I’ve read, you should be fine.
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@The_Good_Twin, got any advice or pointers on lowering RH at late flower without buying a humidifier? I want to avoid mold/ bud rot but can't get it below 52-55...
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Nenay
Nenayweek 0
Good luck with the grow :)
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@Nenay, seems like that's the consensus. That I should worry as long as the leaves rustle and air moves freely in the space -- along w high intake fan speed to ensure air is in and out quickly! Thanks man! I appreciate you confirming this!! Hope your girls are doing well!
Nenay
Nenay
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, I don’t think RH between 49 and 55 is thát bad if you make sure there’s plenty of airflow. You already defoliated so that’s good.
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@Nenay, got any advice or pointers on lowering RH at late flower without buying a humidifier? I want to avoid mold/ bud rot but can't get it below 52-55...
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spyder
spyderweek 5
good luck with the grow,,,enjoy.
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@spyder, got any advice or pointers on lowering RH at late flower without buying a humidifier? I want to avoid mold/ bud rot but can't get it below 52-55...
spyder
spyder
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@spyder, thanks man! I hope your girls are growing well!
spyder
spyderweek 0
lookin' good,,,,good luck with the grow,,,,,enjoy.
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@spyder, Day 20 w these ladies. Too early to light defoliation?
spyder
spyder
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@spyder, hey spyder! Thanks! Hope your girls are growing well out there!
TrickOrTrip
TrickOrTripweek 3
Good luck buddy 🤞 i wish you big harvest !!
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@TrickOrTrip, got any advice or pointers on lowering RH at late flower without buying a humidifier? I want to avoid mold/ bud rot but can't get it below 52-55...
TrickOrTrip
TrickOrTrip
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, its early I think
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@TrickOrTrip, Day ~19 w these ladies. Too early to light defoliation?
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Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40week 3
I havent tryed lst yet, so maby this year im willing to try it out, looks good mate💪 Happy growing & good luck🙏😊
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40
@Vincent_Van_Grogh,I sure hope it does the trick mate🙏 it worked for me, 55'ish rh and no mold what so ever 🌱🙌
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@Cannabeast40, you read my mind! Just about to prop up another oscillating fan in there! This should work with higher intake speed. We shall see! Thanks man!
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, if you can fit another fan in there, so it gets really windy, it shoud be fine at 50 ish. and turn up your ductfan might help a couple of %
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SeaGrow
SeaGrowweek 3
Looks beautiful 👌 Happy growin mate 😉🌱✌️
SeaGrow
SeaGrow
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, yea man we must to be creative 😁 Tace care bro, wish you good luck 😃🤙
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@SeaGrow, INTERESTING! that makes sense from a physics standpoint... Lemme try and see if I can get some dry ice! That's a very creative solution... I would've never thought of that! God bless GD for allowing my idiot grower heard to ask vets like you!!! Thanks for the time man!!
SeaGrow
SeaGrow
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, try with dry rice. Put dry rice in few pots and put that pots with rice around your plants, it is posible to go down for a few percents with that technique 😉✌️
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Waylate
Waylateweek 1
Good luck for your grow
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@@Waylate, DampRid, huh? Alright, will definitely look into those... Someone said dry ice... Seems more complex... Thanks for taking the time to advise this noob! I appreciate it!
Waylate
Waylate
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, I have used DampRid moisture removers, I hung the bags in the tent and used the bigger tubs also. Keep them growing healthy and Good luck
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@@Waylate, got any advice or pointers on lowering RH at late flower without buying a humidifier? I want to avoid mold/ bud rot but can't get it below 52-55...
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GreenHillZone
GreenHillZoneweek 2
Hi there! Looking nice. Would it be possible to upload a pic without the grow light on? The veins on the leaves of "RED" look a little bit concerning to me. I'm still a noob, but the disparity in colour between the veins and the leaf itself makes me think you are missing magnesium, but it could also just be the light. In my experience and from reading a bunch of diaries, Mg deficiency doesn't tend to appear so early, more like week 4-5-6, so it's a bit of a strange look. If you could get some snaps with the light off it will give a better idea of the plant's health. Looking great and wishing you the best of luck for the next stage. I can't wait to see these ladies stretch out, if this is your first grow you'll be in for a treat! EDIT: On closer inspection I'm pretty sure it's just the light. I opened full size image and could see clearer, looks perfectly healthy so ignore my comment - except for the good wishes :)
GreenHillZone
GreenHillZone
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, I'd probably wait another week or so. You'll notice a bit more of the same growth rate for next 7ish days, and then the plant will begin to stretch, growing as much as 1 inch per day!! Thats a good time to start defol as you'll have a better idea of where the budsites are, and therefore what you need to defol for light penetration! Rule of thumb for me, with autos at least, is not to take more than 4 leaves at a time, and I try to leave 48 hours between clippings. Others go a lot harder than that, but autoflowers are delicate creatures so I tend to err on the side of caution - with everything, defol, nutes, training.
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@GreenHillZone, Day 20 w these ladies. Too early to light defoliation?
GreenHillZone
GreenHillZone
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, hey, my pleasure! Take all my advice with some salt, I'm still learning too! With regards to deficiencies in general, I don't think there are any you need to worry about for the first 4 weeks or so. There is enough nutrition for the seedling/veg stage in the seed itself, as well as the soil medium. In my experience week 4/5 is when defs begin to show their signs, so if you can be ahead of the curve a bit and apply amendments in the previous weeks you can start to move towards "optimal" growth. I think this instinct will only come with experience, growing different strains in different conditions and working on your "green thumb"! On the red stems/mag def side, that is a sign as far as I'm aware but as above, not in the first few weeks. Late veg/early bloom stage in the case of autoflowers which is all I've grown so far. For instance, my current 7 day old seedling has a red stem but I don't think we can say that's down to a deficiency. Calcium and magnesium are closely linked in their uptake within the plant, as far as I know, and often people have calcium defs which lead to magnesium lockout. Depending on your water source you may have a decent calcium content anyway, so mag defs are less likely to occur in the course of a grow. Soil does tend to be more forgiving on the nutrient side of things as far as I know, but definitely use a light hand with nutes early on. You can always add more, but you can't take it away very easily. Good luck with the grows and thanks for the kind words!
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Rock_n_Roll_Randy
Rock_n_Roll_Randyweek 1
Good luck buddy 👍
Rock_n_Roll_Randy
Rock_n_Roll_Randy
@Vincent_Van_Grogh,sorry bro just seen u asked that. A couple fan leaves won't hurt but will slow the growth for a week or so
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@Rock_n_Roll_Randy, Day 20 w these ladies. Too early to light defoliation?
Rock_n_Roll_Randy
Rock_n_Roll_Randy
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, ya man from scratch. Been a few yrs breeding these
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Island
Islandweek 4
nice bro
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@Island, got any advice or pointers on lowering RH at late flower without buying a humidifier? I want to avoid mold/ bud rot but can't get it below 52-55...
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@Island, thanks for sending positive vibes sman! Hope your girls in the island are growing well! :)
love_2_grow
love_2_growweek 4
Good luck man! I also grew Think Different for my first grow. Great strain for a beginner.
love_2_grow
love_2_grow
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, Unfortunately, I didn't keep any diary for that grow. In fact, I didn't document a single thing from that grow except the yield. Got 246 grams out of two plants.
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@love_2_grow, yeah dood... She's very forgiving and fun to try stuff with.. not unlike our first gf... Lol! How are mine faring compared to your TD's? Lemme check your diaries...
Joseman656
Joseman656week 3
What's up bro when's the next update on this one??
Joseman656
Joseman656
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, good man i just updated yesterday, they are turning into some monsters! Hope to see it soon
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@Joseman656, probably end of week or so man. like day 28 or so... I've been injuring mine a lot w the last adjustments... How are your girls doing?
ManosVerdes
ManosVerdesweek 3
Buen entreno ! La mejor de mis vibras para usted y su cultivo,disfrute !
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@ManosVerdes, got any advice or pointers on lowering RH at late flower without buying a humidifier? I want to avoid mold/ bud rot but can't get it below 52-55...
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@ManosVerdes, thanks bro! How are your girls doing? Hope they grow up to be fine ladies!
Organic_LarF
Organic_LarFweek 3
Hi, Whats the name of the plant in the left upper corner of the family pic.? With the pinkish staining. Looks really nice! 🙏🌿🌿🌿🙏
Organic_LarF
Organic_LarF
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, Hi, ive found this article about VPD. Maybe it serves you!! https://www.cannabissciencetech.com/view/understanding-vpd-and-transpiration-rates-cannabis-cultivation-operations 🙏🌿🌿🌿🙏
Organic_LarF
Organic_LarF
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, Luckely it was only last days. But the drying proces is pretty slow 2 for now. And ive got unwanted visitors installing new counters for gas and electricity, so i had to abort the bloom a bit early.🙄 🙏🌿🌿🌿🙏
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh
@Organic_LarF, good point! Hehe! Outside air is definitely a little less humid. So intake is good! Hehe! Yeah, those are pics for master growers and their fat buds of this strain. I'm a noob... I can only hope! Thanks again for the time! Hope the kids are learning a lot a you teach them the green thumb ways!
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