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BioBuds BioBuds
3 years ago
Hi my greenminded friends, Thank you for visiting my growdiary. I hope you can find helpfull things and learn from my mishaps and experiments in a new setup. If you also are growing Gelato 33 Fast or have a similar grow setup or you encounter accidental revegging and are forced to monstercrop while previously heaving never heard of this, welcome to this account of an adventure with plot twists and suspense. Next to getting to know my grow setup, Im working with a new soil composition, a hybrid between coco and supersoil. Also were trying out our compost tea made from comfrey. So these are a lot of variables and stuff to potentially go wrong. Also with our soiltype it should correct itself, but my PH and PPm meters aren't in yet so I will start the grow with some guesswork on the feed, for the 1st four weeks we should be ok with the starting nutrients. The Setup: My growspace is a Spiderfarmer 4.5 x 2 x 6.5 (140 x 70 x 200), not a standard width a little wider, which later gives me limited choices in growlights so we'll get to that later. I chose this because its fits the space I had available and my friend had experiences with a square tent, that its harder to reach the plants in the back. Findings so far about the tent: I expected a little more quality from a tent in the higher range. Zippers are good, but my friends smaller rectangular tent from Secret Jardin has sidebars preventing the tent from sucking in and im losing about a foot of growspace in the center of the tent. So I will have to fix this before plants get bigger, so the tent so far litterally sucks.... Dont choose this option from Spider Farmer. In this grow diary, which are the accounts of my first indoor grow in a new setup, I work with the Rubol V3 QBs 3 x 100 Watt in selfmade frame. Since my space is rectangular and longer than the 1.20 m standard (1.40 (4.5 ft)), I chose to make a custom board. I was looking at others like the Mars Hydro SP 3000 but the light is a meter wide so left and right I would have 20 cm of less lighted space. I then ordered the lights: https://www.rubol.nl/product/rubol-samsung-lm301b-quantum-board-v3-cree-xp-e2-660nm730nm-330w-diy-kit/ and had an old storage cabinet which I used parts of to make a frame for the lights. It looks shabby but its sturdy and it works. So far Im pleased with the lights. After first installing them I was very disappointed with the results, however after checking with Justin at Rubol I had made the mistake of not installing them in serial so the boards were getting a total of 100 Watts instead of 100 Watts per board from the driver. After hitting the switch it was as if the heavens had opened and shining down on me. Checking with the parmeters on my phone I was in the correct lux and PPF readings, for as far as phone apps go. The Soil: After following Mr Canuck on Youtube and his experiences with super soil and my own experiences with permaculture growing in the backyard and a fondness of organically grown weed, I had decided to formulate my own supersoil with what I had available. In Europe we don't have Fox Farms Ocean Soil or Gaia green supplements, so I faked it with my own mix and ended up with a hybrid mix that remains airy and light needs only a few amendmends later in the grow and the plants seem happy. My friend @styliaga was growing in Batmix and similar and had all kinds of trouble with growing, see here: https://growdiaries.com/diaries/110194-grow-journal-by-styliaga until he switched to the new soil and his plants took off. When I received his clones, they also took the the new soil instantly and instead of being stressed by the move by car, into new lights (formerly blurples) they exploded as you can see in the next weeks. Even though, as we later discovered, there was a catch with these clones... Soil mix: 30 % cocopeat, 30% Bi Grow Biosoil by Atami and 30% worm castings. I had opted for less wormcastings however, there was no soil available except these bags so topped it off. It proved to be a happy little accident. I can seriously recommend this soilcombination to any starting grower, just add water the first 4 weeks (with right PH) The Nutrients: I had bought some BAC Biotablets to crush as topdress to replace the Gaia green amendmend Canuck was adding. Also we have our own comfrey compost tea in the garden, later in the diary I will make a small video of how to make it, or at least how I made it. Which although smelling horrible, works well with soil PH and surprising little smell in the tent. More like a full musky smell of Greenhouse and weed. Ive grown to love the smell of farming in the morning :P So the crushed Biotabs are for when the soilmix I started with has lost its starting nutrients. In the meantime I add some BAC Calmag to support the extra need for the LEDlight. I also add some extra mils of Green Sensation by plagron, just for the PK. I switch between Plagron and BAC for grow and bloom food. I also amend with some woodash during flower. To conlude: I use topmax and sugarsirup during flowering to help develop budgrowth and terps. The Genetics: My friend @styliaga has been growing indoor for some time now and had had made me a clone from a cutting. These are Gelato #33 Fast by Advanced Seeds. These arent an option to choose, but I already chose the Gelato #33 as main strain for this diary. So with clones I could have a rolling start and skip the whole seedling stage. A shortcut that would have some implications. So far they are forgiving plants even under harsh circumstances, ideal for beginners like me. So were off on our little adventure. Thank you for reading and please follow me if you like to see my mishaps and victories to come as I try to find my ideal way with this setup.
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BioBuds
BioBudsstarted grow question 3 years ago
Ok so I have uneven plants cause of the stage I received the propagated cuttings in, one was 1,5 weeks ahead. Its taking up its space... the other 2 are smaller, do you think I should start the fowering stage already? They are 7,5 and 6 weeks old now.
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 3 years ago
I would just veg them all longer and apply some training. Aiming for a bigger yield.
BioBuds
BioBudsstarted grow question 3 years ago
Ok getting bit paranoid. Since they are revegged, we can state that they've been stressed a little. So have they hermied? Sources differ a bit on whether pollensacs can have pistils or not, all the sac-looking flowers have at least one or two pistils, none have no pistils...
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Burmese
Burmeseanswered grow question 3 years ago
Hi there, that doesn't look like male pollen sac to me.It's just swelling female calyx.Male pollen sac doesn't have any pistils.Only the female calyx with seeds have.Happy growing... ✌️
BioBuds
BioBudsstarted grow question 3 years ago
If allowed to do a little sidequiz (unsponsored and unaffiliated userinitiative) I like to know your best guess, what my final weigh in is going to be. See this week comments for rules and info! Just for fun, considering laws etc. If prize not allowed, then for honour! GL HF X
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BioBuds
BioBudsweek 15
Thank you all for liking my work so much that I became master on first grow!! Lots of love, Bud and Sunshine πŸ€—πŸ˜˜πŸ‘πŸ™Œ
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40
@BioBuds,πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘ŠπŸ™
BioBuds
BioBudsweek 15
Thank you GD and Fatsbuds or 6th place best Diary of August 2021!!! Im very happy!!!
BioBuds
BioBuds
@Ezzjaybruh, thanks!!!!
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruh
@BioBuds, nice work man!! Killer results
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40week 2
Happy growing & good luckπŸ‘ŠπŸ™πŸ˜€
BioBuds
BioBuds
@Cannabeast40, thank you!
DevilsBud_NL
DevilsBud_NLweek 10
Good luck with your grow πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ
DevilsBud_NL
DevilsBud_NL
@BioBuds, no problems mate sometimes GD has his fits sometimes i like and then don't like lol .
BioBuds
BioBuds
@DevilsBud_NL, thank you very much!! Somehow I only liked this while want to answer everybody who took the time to wish me luck! So sorry bit late...
Ferenc
Ferencweek 6
Happy Growing @BioBuds
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40week 15
Looking good mate πŸ‘ŠπŸ˜ŽπŸ‘
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40
@BioBuds,aaah nice bro 😎 im sure it will be worth waiting, they look amazing πŸ˜‹ And happy harvest in a few days time πŸ’ͺπŸ™Œ
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40
@BioBuds,πŸ˜πŸ™Œ
BioBuds
BioBuds
@Cannabeast40, and a real compliment from a master like yourself! Thanks for all the love!!
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SegaYGriega
SegaYGriegaweek 15
Sugar buds πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘
SegaYGriega
SegaYGriega
@BioBuds, Of course see youπŸ˜‰
BioBuds
BioBuds
@SegaYGriega, now they are harvested well see if they taste as sweet as they looked :p thanks and see you on your diaries!!
JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcanweek 13
Hold on i need my pen and paper dam son your a professor😳😳...Good job growMIEπŸ˜πŸ‘πŸ’ͺ have fun hope you have a tasty harvestπŸ˜ŽπŸš¬πŸ†πŸ†πŸ†
JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcan
@BioBuds,..thanks 😎🚬
BioBuds
BioBuds
@JamMAKEcan, what very nice compliment! Im not a professor at all, there are very many excellent growers here I learned a lot from in a short time (I never heard of monstercropping and have been growing for 30 years). And my secret bible is growweedeasy.com with Nebula Haze, the author, as my oracle of all things cannabis. If you haven't seen her yet and want to up your game, follow them. Also find growers that have your style or lights or nutrients or strain you want to grow and see what approaches work. Again lovely words but in my case luck and as it tuns out, very resistent and resilliant strain by Advanced Seeds. So thanks and I will follow and check in from time to time and if you're stuck just hook me up here so we will ponder the challenge together! And if you want Im doing a little give-away, some seed for the person closest to guessing my final weigh in!! Hug Buds
JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcanweek 15
Sweet.. Great job GrowMie
JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcan
@BioBuds,..that is yhe bad part .. Waiting ahh. Lol
BioBuds
BioBuds
@JamMAKEcan, thanks buddy!! Now we wait again... :)
TenderBuds
TenderBudsweek 13
Looking good πŸ‘πŸ’ƒπŸ»
BioBuds
BioBuds
@@@TenderBuds, im sorry sensei, didn't realize I was talking to a Master! :) That seems like no pressure at all, of course, on your next grow, any idea what strain? Im sure you will do that too, some tpeople have to learn this, other just have the touch... Unless that mentor was growing it for you you did a whole lot right with those results!! So good luck for the next one and don't hesitate to PM some of those magical special moves your mysterious Mr Myagy has taught you... grasshopper. See you on your next one!! And if you want, you can try a gamble on my growquestion to guess what my final weigh in will be. If not for the prize (cause of understandable privacy reasons, although I will send them unmarked from my (checkable and public) business, then for the honour my fellow fairy of ganja!
TenderBuds
TenderBuds
@BioBuds, lol yeah it kinda felt like a death when I cut her down. Glad you enjoyed your grow so much. πŸ‘πŸ’ƒπŸ»
BioBuds
BioBuds
@@@TenderBuds, yes isn't it completely. Sometimes I just stare and stare at them. Mesmerized by in this case an ocean of glden nuggets that I had visualized beforehand. Providence gave me a reveg and monstercrop that was unplanned but created it. They are grown with love, apologized to them, or her, since she is one and the same lady as clones, whenever I had to hurt them. They are loaded with intention of healing and knowledge to whoever smokes it, and will be ritually harvested, cured and stored with gems in a box. We go bit far but Sunshine, my partner and I are permaculture healers and believe they are teachers if you can establish the right 'deal' with them. Most people just give away their energy for free, while she has lots of gifts to give. Which is why when we smoke after a time we didn't we feel so gloriously at one with all, have wondefull insights, she entices us back in with her gifs. So we go back to smoking daily just to sedate us from all the BS and she stops giving gifts, now she demands more energy and attention. She is a fickle spirit that can hold a lot of might over people. Can't wait to see your results, Im rambling on as usual... :P Enjoyed our little encounter!!
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JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcanweek 15
Hat's OFF TO you my growMie.. Wow looks tasty bet the aroma is delicious....
BioBuds
BioBuds
@JamMAKEcan, thanks buddy!! The smells are amazing, the final days here, so smells are full and danky. Try comfrey compost tea. Youll be amazed and its saves on all flowering nutes. I did this with 100 watts per plant only. Thanks for supporting and checkin buddy! Gl with yours and have you decided on a lamp yet?
RebelMove
RebelMoveweek 12
Wowww snowy buds🀞
BioBuds
BioBuds
@RebelMove, Thank you!! So happy with results so far. Can't wait!!
sailormoonflowers
sailormoonflowersweek 15
Now thats a harvest and an interesting diary @biobuds, nice one. Love Sweety, had a King C Spaniel as a kid, amazing personallity.... Most of all your interest in Shamanism and Teacherplants, wish more people would take time to look at subjects like these I know for sure Ayahuasca/DMT has powers we generally do not understand, not yet sure if mankind truly deserves or what they would do with this knowledge though. Respect & Peace S.M.F
BioBuds
BioBuds
@sailormoonflowers, and I think all helpers are special, visible or invisible ;) the fact I can see them or not doesn't diminish anyting from the help given, at very least it can enable others to help the helper, who in turn can help even more... Although I completely respect your decission not to share personal stuff anywhere, on many levels.
BioBuds
BioBuds
@sailormoonflowers, wow 13 rescues, thats a busy home :). In my opinion, intellect is what got us further from 'the truth' and your conclusion on dark matter is same as mine and I've developped my own theorem on this which I use in my coaching: The universe will hide its dark matters as long as people do. I think the next singularity will coincide with people making this paradigmshift in their conscousness. We will harnass space/time when we harnass our conscious mind. And in this light I find simulation theory interesting but a too much one-sided and to littlle magical (or too much mechanical, if you will) part of the equation, where our part in generating reality, or our simulation is left out. I've come to believe that we are omnipowerful in creating said 'simulation' and to put it as a mere simulation is completely denying our devine purpose, as creation, creators, observers and in the end we will find, that certain religious texts were more right when it says: we are made in His likeness, we have the same powers. We create reality every day, by our thoughts and convictions that we are who we are and are worth what we got. If you believe you are not worth much, the universe will comply and match that expectation. In the end, we are made from the same stuff as stars and all in the universe are made from. We are children of light, each a universe in a universe, with immense powers and energy in us. Every day we forget this, we feel unconnected and alone, or insignificant. I wish you a great day and if not, just create it. Love talking to you!! Big hug Bud
sailormoonflowers
sailormoonflowers
@BioBuds, thank you, completely agree with your view on the Higgs-Boson particle, the dark matter is now the next frontier to understand. Have you looked in to Simulation Theory which leads to the Simulation Hypothesis by Nick Bostrom, the three alternatives... very interesting and I wont spoil it here in case you have not yet read it. Id really appreciate your opinion, maybe start on wiki its the in fairly basic terms. Elon Musk's famous early days comment "it is highly probable that we are not in base reality" makes me think as Im not an intellectual but smart enough to recognise others that are gifted thinkers.. My Little luke had eye and nose infections most of his life so completely agree, he made it to 11 and was blind for the last 6 months... best I ever had. I have 13 rescues here now not posting pics... IMO I believe helping becomes a little less special when you post pics of stuff like that, thats how i feel anyway... Peace & Love S.M.F
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Growskiiiiii
Growskiiiiiiweek 14
Sweet Buds Mate good luck for the rest pf flowering😊
BioBuds
BioBuds
@Growskiiiiii, cant wait to see your results. Big hug!!
Growskiiiiii
Growskiiiiii
@BioBuds, Ty so much! Big Love 😘
BioBuds
BioBuds
@Growskiiiiii, thank you so much! They went dark yesterday!! Harvest week has arrived πŸ‘ Good luck to you again, Im following and rooting for ya in the contest!
SegaYGriega
SegaYGriegaweek 15
Congratulations on the harvest, bro !!! I wish your expectations were met πŸ˜‰, in any case, we enjoy watching the growth process πŸ‘
SegaYGriega
SegaYGriega
@BioBuds,πŸ€œπŸ€›πŸ€πŸ˜‰
BioBuds
BioBuds
@SegaYGriega, thank you and for all the support Sega
Maryjane23
Maryjane23week 15
Very nice!!!! Stai hight!!!πŸ€ͺπŸ€ͺ
Maryjane23
Maryjane23
@BioBuds, ahahaha lo capisco e concordo! πŸ€ͺπŸ€ͺ
BioBuds
BioBuds
@Maryjane23, thank you! Ive been so for the past 31 years and hope to stay baked till death do us part ;p
Kitties_and_Colas
Kitties_and_Colasweek 15
"aids in the real funk smell in plant and bud (they are what they eat too)" ...I never thought in those terms but it makes sense... good luck with your grow!! πŸ±β€οΈπŸ’‘πŸŒ±
Kitties_and_Colas
Kitties_and_Colas
@BioBuds, we were making 5gal batches of worm tea for a while but decided against bringing it inside anymore, the smell is just too much lol.. we use outside and on all the vegetables though :)
BioBuds
BioBuds
@Kitties_and_Colas, im no scientist and I did not do a dpubleblind test but my reasoning is that when we eat loads of onions we sweat unions but as soon as I started givi ng it, thr smell of the grow, soil and room changed as did the soiltemp and smell off co2. But.... then Idiscussed it someone I know who grows. He started giving it to his plants midblossom. I witnessed his buds in white straoght pistil fluffy stage. His run had no strong smells en no trichomes. The day after trichs wete forming a danky skunk smell was very noticable. Two grows in different stages, everytime I do 100 ml on a liter to 250 ml p liter as long as ph stayed above 6.3, My tapwater is 7.6. Try comfreytea, will make video of mine, I tweaked mine with clipped weed leaves and dandelion. When going to flower you can up the dosage of the tea by addimg some wood ash, which is alkaline. Its natural PK, leave it overnight to let the microbes and the lactobacterial toxines (vinegars and carbohydrates) let the K and P into its HCL version. Alsp ph stabilizes this way. Just as a comparison; check other grows with this strain. Its not an abundant yielder, but no one tried this and get the same size and bigger buds on a monstercrop w only 100 watt !!! per plant Thanks for your support and tey compost tea youll be amazed with its niomalizing properties. Final tip, if you have a growing nemessis, like gnats, thrips or mites for instance, choose the herb most active against this pest, check if not antimicrobial, add to tea, use 1/5 solutoin as foliar... Never growing withour it again. I will poar a pic of our garden which we also fed with it. It exploded... Hug Bud
DevilsBud_NL
DevilsBud_NLweek 15
Congrats on your harvest buddy enjoy your harvest when there ready . Off with there heads
BioBuds
BioBuds
@DevilsBud_NL, thanks buddy!! Now we wait again... thanks for the love!!
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420week 13
Gelato #33 is exactly what my momma would've wanted me to have.
BioBuds
BioBuds
@DoDrugs420, :P and momma knows best!!! Ty for the likes, coming right back at ya!!!
JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcanweek 14
Half a pound..how much weight is in this grow??...yea.. I'llπŸ€”πŸ€”say 1/2pound dry weight..224grams...πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ˜³πŸ˜³
BioBuds
BioBuds
@JamMAKEcan, is noted!! Ty for playing!!!