Platinum Gelato II and Garlic Storm II

Well, think the tri-leaf mutation is fleeting in this one, unless that third leaf is sometimes delayed/behind other 2. Otherwise, things stretched a bit, as noted before. Despite that, they are holding up to a good breeze. Turned up lights, and it should be fine after transplant, regardless. Speaking of... Transplant is approaching. Future #1 is 84 days deep into flower and it spewed a bunch of pistils a couple weeks ago, so it looks half-done. the inner portions of plant are showing way more amber than expected, but still not much. So, i won't feel bad about chopping this seemingly early. Going shopping monday, so tuesday may be as long as i can delay. Other option is to put these in 1-gallon pots for a 7-10 days while squeezing all 8 into 4x4 tent. I would not be able to use the matrixes, but in a 1 gallon, i think the circulator would be enough to automate watering, otherwise this requires more labor... for a likely turd bucket. If i weren't concerned about running low on grass by the time this crop finishes, that fucker would be going outside where it belongs. I should take some pics and show what a fucking mess it is.. larfy piece of shit. Thank god i never gave cuttings of this out.. i'd be embarassed. If i did, i appologize. It was not intentional. So, as of now, just leaving it under the xs1500 @ 120 watts or so. Got a few going outside, too. Hopefully, by next wednesday all seedlings will be transplanted and irrigation and drainage system setup for the indoor plants. Can't wait. Finally get to try out the new 650w light i purchased. Bit of a boner getting the 3500K cct, but hopefully irrelevant. Actual CCT is ~3394K (3500k + 660nm). My diy are probably ~2900K (3000k + 660nm). I've grown under a cooler temp before, and had both dense and fluffy buds.. so, i think it is mostly genetic and 3000k vs 3500k, while possibly statistically significant effect benefiting buds with warmer light, may be irrelevant to human senses or close enough to that end.

15 days complate.. Not much going on... Tri-leaf mutation seems to have gone the way of teh dodo. Accidental stretching abated. 1 clone of each in background.. This is from the "Platinum Gelato I" and "Garlic Storm I" - Wow is the garlic strom from that run fucking amazing... jar smells fantastic, buds taste fantastic... Potent AF, Dense AF.. roll a cannon and knock a total sot through a loop. Lazy ass didn't build anything today... so, hopefully by tomorrow I'll have these in their larger 3+ gallon pots hooked up to a feed and drain setup.

New Update (Sep 2021) - No new pictures, a but soon... Wow was I a total turd over the summer. Possibly this saved a lot of hardship, as it was a wet and humid summer, as always. May downsize a bit in summers and skip late summer harvest completely. These plants stayed in solo cups for 120 days after sprouting, and one was a few days less as it was a replacement for a failed or defective sprout, i didn't check notes, but possibly in notes if i was posting them in previous weeks. I'll revive this when i hit week 2 of bloom phase in about a week. Due to height of new tents, i didn't get to give them much recovery time. PG got a few days, GS got a week before flip. Took cuttings of the plants with better structure. These won't look as healthy and pretty as my normal plants hitting bloom, but they are growing vigorously since transplant. I may need to thin the PG canopies out before 14 flower-nights as they are going F'ing nuts. The stubborn GS branched out over 120days otherwise they'd be LST'd instead of topped. Very much a sativa-like physical structure and behaviour. Resistant to side branching, but if you let them get rootbound in a cup for 4 months, it happens. Things to come... Will get 3 breeding sessions in this winter. Two of three sessions will involve mature clones which avoids large portion of vege, if any needed. Picked up some 500ppm nanoparticle colloidal silver. Should have a pimpy F5 male plant selected from a handful by third breeding session, which will include more hybrids than the first two. B1 - GSxGS(s), maybe the PG winner, too. Second round will be BB Muffin x BB Muffin plants and maybe cross with gs/pg. Third session will be the best male Blackcherry Pie F5 i find in some reg seeds pollinating another F5 female, and all mature clones waiting around for last session. ("Slurricane #7", "The D", maybe some other strains.) All i hope to accomplish is some consistent results with GSxGS (fems), bbmuffin x bbmuffin (fems) and the F5 male x F5 fem (regs). The hybrids along way are just for shits and grins and more so with the true male plant as 1 parent. The same strain x same strain is in hopes of retaining existing traits. I'll make some fem seeds in future of the reg seeds made this winter. Too many generations of all "XX" x "XX" can't be a positive effect over time. This will let me reset the clock on that retardation a bit, i hope, like a dog breeder skipping a generation of inbreeding to reduce retarded dogs produced over time. No 1000s of plants along with observations of physical traits to make punnet squares... Nothing special or professional, but intend to have fun with it. I hope someone is taking that sort of sophisticated view... rubbing a stem and randomly mixing stuff is below what we are capable of with the generational knowledge that we have. You can work out number of alleles from large samples of plants through inductive reasoning and a little error-correction for the imperfect process. We can know for a fact how many seeds from 2 known parents will look like "this" or "that" with a little work and some math. That will not be done here, LOL. That's the real future once someone puts in the work. Winter is going to be fun. I'll likely do diaries of the breeding sessions.. first time I've attempted to herm a plant. So, if you like nascar, this may be right up your alley if i crash and burn. This current diary will have a proper finish. You can see results of GS and PG in previous diaries.. the PG is quite resistant to micribial problems, as learned from 120D in solo cups. GS does not fight off wpm very well, but 5x better smoke, imo, so gonna keep up on defoliation and h2o2 sprays deep into bloom. If no pistils yet, may do one more dose of copper-fungicide soap spray. https://www.stonerscientist.com/cultivation/the-link-between-colloidal-silver-and-feminized-cannabis-seeds --Thought this was interesting read.. slightly different info than what you read in forums and such. It is not complete, obviously, but points in good direction. This guy did 100ppm over 5 days (along with other less-effective dosing over same period of time) and had good results. Most places say 20-50ppm and do it for 3weeks or intil you see nanners etc etc... but, what we see with our eyes is possibly not necessary here... the 'change' happens long before we can see it. I'm going to look for a few more research papers and go from there. ***************************************************************OLD AF************************************ Well, i haven't done shit. Little update, nonetheless. Since i used the Viparspectra XS1500 so extensively early on in this grow, i added it to the diary. This was only supposed to be a 2-3 week period for seedlings. It has done an excellent job vege'ing these plants. Their lack of size is due to being in solo cups for 6 weeks, BWAHAHA. Ooops. Needless to say, despite looking good, they are rootbound and very unhappy with me. The 2 mother plants have been in their respective solo cups even longer. I've topped all the plants since the last update. 6-8 colas on each. I spaced out and did the first Garclic Strom improperly with only 6. This will not allow for many pre-flower cuttings in my faux pheno hunt of a tiny sample of plants. Hopefully i can take two from all the others to be safe... and I can take an extra in flower from the one i topped with 2 fewer branches off meristem. The garlic storm will go into the 4x4 with the 3500k 650w led light soon. Probably get another week or two of vege to fill in the extra space. They need more height. I've grown them before and they are leggy girls with dense AF golfball nugs all the way down. They will need the taller tent as it is easier to control girth than a plant's natural height given environment it is grown in. The platinum gelato will go into the 3x3 with the likely better-for-flower 3000k DIY lights, and is already in danger of overfilling. I may take a node or 2 of height off to control this. This too will require a period of healing before flipping to 12-12 bloom schedule. While not an excuse, i have kept my basement at 50% RH for a couple weeks now. Hopefully, the ongoing WPM issues that crop up. Think i need to simply foliar spray with h2o2 as a preventative measure. Start with 1/week and adjust based on observations. Twice a week might be safer. After breeding seeds, i'm looking forward to a boring, repeated process that takes little thought. Side note, the circulators i have for the floraflex round matrix might work really well for solo cups... can eaily automate irrigation and drain of seedling portion of life cycle too. Need to get some of those push to connect couplers, methinks. Being able to pop those off easily and move things around / replace with larger pots etc etc... would be convenient.

Wow, these look so much better than what they did previously. See previous week's update for more nitty gritty if you want... short story is that these were all rootbound in solo cups after 120days of me being a lazy turd. GS - 5 flower nights completed PG - 8 flower nights completed The 2 plants of each with solo pictures will be used for breeding. The best tasting will be kept of PG and 2 GS will be used in first round. A GS will be hermed with colloidal silver when the time comes. Two more breeding rounds after that using 2 or 3 Blueberry Muffins females and Blackcherry Pie F5 male used as pollen donators for round 2 and 3, respectively. They aren't as pretty as i usually have them, but i don't typically torture them in a solo cup for 4 months, either. Had some various issues over that time, but think it's mostly cleaned up now. Upgraded irrigation and drainage. Cannot see easily, but a condensate pump exists under slightly raised floor. Orbit controller with some solenoid valves for manual or automated irrigations. The controller turns on/off pump. Passed on the round matrix from floraflex. need some 45psi pump for that even though it drips the water gently onto surface.. My diy had a much better coverage. What you see in picture is what the matrixes managed. Mine saturate entire surface easily and evenly with no need for 45 psi and all that comes with that... like, i assume competency in plumbing, lol... which i am not. PVC was used and cemented together. Some well-placed compression fittings to make cleaning pipes and tank or filling tank nice and easy. Much less time invovled. Just run a hose from non-softened sink with an attachment in winter. Made a water guage i stick into drum to see what to add... toss in dry nutes and let powerheads stir it for me... beautiful. Need to do somethign with drum seal as black spray paint is not durable enough. Just blocking light with towels and other miscellaneous stuff on top.

GS - 10 FD PG - 13 FD Nearly 2 weeks into bloom for PG. Defoliation done yesterday. Removed some lower growth and some select leaves to allow deeper penetration. Some more bending, but the plants are pretty much on autopilot from now on. All those claims automated irrigation saves water is bullshit, lol... still worth it. You will inevitably use more water when using an automated system or even a push-to-irrigate setup. Plants drink at different rates, evaporation can be slightly different, and medium is not 100% the same all the time. Think some of my pots have a bit more perlite, so they are on different schedules, but there is only 1 schedule... hence, inevitable waste. The convenience is worth it. Maybe, in a couple more feedings i'll be confident enough that i don't have to supervise in person. Simply give 15mins, and excess is no big deal on some pots. Love that i do not have to mix any nutes anymore. I dump 100s of grams of part A in... wait an hour to be safe, then dump ~2/3rds of that worth of cal nitrate. Powerheads do a great job churning water. 1 near bottom and 1 near top of drum. Added some beneficial microbes to tank. I will need to do something about the water tank, though. The room is definitely too warm for a tank. Plants seem fine and do not droop, so oxygen levels are probably okay at the least. Some biofilm is accumulating just above water level. Will clean before next refill. If i don't have to grow much over summer, this is less of a problem. Should be much cooler over winter. GS is a weak-resistant plant for certain. Believe it is GS1 that is the weakest link (back left). Dehum has helped, but need to re-apply fungicide repeatedly. After being split up, PG is not having recurring problems and has much more foliage / less airflow etc. GS2 and GS4 are the more important plants. Seem to have a bit more resistance but definitely susceptible. Waiting for stretch to continue... Expect these to get tall. Leaving light nice and strong throughout to try to limit it just a bit. Until that happens, expecting a lighter yield in this tent - probably something akin to the 3x3. I needed to LST these to force a bushier base. But, will be useful to see what the additional immersion of light does for the lower buds. More local photosynthesis should help without need to transport ATP long distance within plant. PG is still goin crazy. Had to thin out the canopy or it would have been a fucking mess. I didn't intend to fill in tent so much, but this is a plant that can handle those conditions, thankfully. Was going for 2-4" around edges being free. Hopefully, can push >250-300grams dry.. try to aim low and be surprised. That's only ~30g per sq ft. 50g/sqft is a better goal for future. The back-right is still fugly for some reason. Wrinkled leaves etc. Both these plants were treated very poorly. Some scars still exist. New growth is fine. Flower development is matching previous run. I think they will turn out fine at this point. I am not super confident about yield. The height that accrued over the long-haul in solo cups and multiple prunings really limited the time i had for recovery and filling out space better. The 3x3 is fine on the latter issue, but the 4x4 could have been filled out better. Due to excessive pruning over 4 months, there is a lot of wasted height that won't be an issue in future. Checked old notes.. both these plants should move quickly. Should have fluffy, expanding buds next week. I need to check 3-4-5th week on older diaries for a visual reminder.

GS - 18 FD PG - 21 FD Platinum Gelato: Seeing some nice trichome development. Have a little bug issue. You can see 'honeydew' spots on leaves. thirps? aphids? whatever... working on killing them. Mixed up some pyrethrin to kill on contact. Reservoir has Bti dunks in rez to kill larvea. Applied Neem before the buds showed. Unfortunately, it is the 'clarified' neem oil which means it is stripped of the most important and only active ingredient, but still has some anti-insect properties, nonetheless. A mistake i won't make in future. Sick of companies misrepresenting products and engaging in shady AF behaviours (this being a minor one, but long history of worse things). We need some worldwide consumer and labor unions... strip companies of their leverage. They should be a service to humanity and not oligarchs/overlords. a profit margin is a horrible motivational structure that only results in bottlenecks for what amounts to monopoly money. Garlic Storm: Similar bug issue. Same measures taken as in the plat gelato tent. I only would find "1" bug on any leaf, but there were more based on state of lower canopy in each tent -- the PG tent was worse. The extr axillary branching on GS is strange compared to firt run, and i like it. Seems i kickced the wpm issue in this tent. The PG was more resistant... Still think there's a turd in this punchbowl.. the back left is suspect, but lately has been looking clean. I think that's the one that originates the problem each time it comes back. Even in vege are, where it spread from was typically around this plant. Overall, .... much happier than i was a few weeks ago. Was genuinely concerned about length of time in small cup and treatment of these plant... just ~4 weeks later they are rocking. Nip that lil insect problem in the but and all is good. Think i need to increae nutrients given. With a warmer environment and better control of RH%, I think i can increase concentrtions. Will do so slowly, of course. went from 3.3g/gal part A to 3.4g/gal, for example. Also bumps cal-nitrte back to 2grams per gallon. Rez.... So, i was filling to a known point, then adding another 20gallons with hose. This was untenable - involved hauling 5-gallon buckets filled with known volume until i got to a known/measured refill line. Bought a cheap $20 flow meter off amazon and it's fucking great. So much easier to refill rez and know exactly how many gallons were put back in. The ones that state a 5% error are plenty good enougg for this endeavour. Whatever error there is, it'll become familiar in no time. Heck if -5%, that may take care of increasing nute concentration all by itself. Except for the suckling of pests, the canopy is strong. Rate of degradation is receding, so i think it'll be okay. Singed a few stigmat, but as long as it doesn't pop nanners i don't give a fuck about a few aesthetic flaws.

GS - End of FD 24 PG - End of FD 27 PG - Still has some bugs.. canopy on front right is obviously a favorite snack as the others are not as bad. Growth continues and it isn't too much out of control yet. Will re-apply 'something' tomorrow when i have more time during light hours. GS - pest issue seems to have been stopped, but could be lurking. Unlike the 3x3 (PG), i cannot find bugs during spot check and the progression is either severely diminished or stopped completely. Obviously, could re-infest from other tent at any time. Feeding every 2-3 days.. hopefully bugs don't ruin plants... less confident than last week, but more so about the platinum gelatos. Looks like the GS i wrote off as "weak" turned out to be the best yielder by early looks (back left plant is bigger and stretching more than others after flip). May have to take a cutting from mid-flower. Too many clones to deal with for breeding project... Definitely don't want to do this more than once every few years when seeds dwindle... gotta maintain the little bastards for long periods of time. At the very least, the new environment seems to be much better at avoiding WPM. I really like the intake and exhaust fan setup. Using a little positive pressure in each tent and no longer exhausting outside. Temps have been in 80s and plants are loving it. Garlic storm looks a lot different from previous run, but i still expect golfball nugs.

Another week... 1 day late.. Completed 36fd for PG and 33FD for GS.. PG - Wow is she filling in. The 3x3 will likely have more weight than the 4x4. Not much smell. This is consistent with first run. Was hoping one of these fuckers would have some strong taste, but it's not looking likely. Still going to breed it, as it has some good characteristics. Much more resistant to mildew than GS. Pops a shit load of trichomes... good structue... I gave up too early on PG3. I thought it was frail early and did not clone it for breeding.. the back-left plant is the type of indica/sative structure i like -- can make it bush out, but not a ton of further side-branching... so you get nice long colas that fill up well. I think the early issues was simply being too close to a few GS clones. those fuckers can't fight off a disease worth shit.. but so tasty, so stinky! GS - Fighting battle with mildew.. these plants are just weak AF in this regard. They developed the problem in bloom last time. First run these two plants were in same enclosure and PG had no signs of it sitting next to these plants. Each time i t hink it's gone... 7-10 days later it shows up again. unfortunately, there's a limit as to what i can treat the plants with... potassium carbonate burns the shit out of the leaves and pistils... i'd use that maybe 10-14 days out, but i don't want to inhibit growth or cause nanners at this point. May go with sodium bicarbonate based (cornell formula) spray... Removed a shit ton of foliage today. The smell from the GS plants is strong. The entire room stinks like blueberrys. My arms were covered in sticky shit removing leaves... oops. Gonna find an arm hair for sure, lol forgot in my haste. Based on last run, i am confident the minor mildew spots are not going to ruin anything. Definitely should have cleaned up some axillary growth, but these plants weren't going to fill out space well so i wanted every gram possible. (logistics of getting things done by a certain time... other reasons paramount)

Garlic Storm - 39 FD (number of 12-12 completed cycles) 4x4 tent Platinum Gelato - 42 FD (same) 3x3 tent PG- Six weeks in the books and platinum gelato is rocking. Some minor spots of mildew, but nothing like the daily maintenance in the 4x4. Gotten a bit floppy. I'm definitely more of a fan of 4-6 primary branches/colas -- keeps the plant sturdier. Starting to pile on the frost like last time. The funky looking plant in back-right is looking great, lol... leaves are ugly AF, but the buds are forming well. GS- Well, if pg is slightly floppy, the GS plants are all over the place. Front right is the worst in that regard. Tried to use some garden ties to prop it up, but didn't do a good job. Still ripping of 3-5+ leaves each day with signs of initial WPM. These plants have a weak resistance and keep giving a foothold to the microbe. This is pretty obvious by now through observation. The smell and taste is worth the effort. Maybe, crossing it with PG will be a good melding of traits with some strong taste. I expect the gsxgs plants to give weak-resistant plants as the parents, but we'll see what happens in near future on that.

GS - 46 completed 12-hour nights PG - 49 12-hour nights --GS-- Looking good. Had to stake and support each plant. GS4 not as much as others. Have a WPM issue. These plants are just weak AF in that regard. Now, it's reached the 3x3 more than before. Using H2O2, but options limited with buds. May give another potassium carbonate spray. These should look like real buds by end of week 7. Just have to wait for ripening to occur... would like to see more frost develop. The stigmata nearly all have color, now. They have not retracted. -------------------- --PG-- Found some WPM, albeit nothing like in the 4x4. Back-right plant looks done for a few days, now. However, it is not heavily covered in frost (deleted that macro shot. it was less impressive than other three plants). All stigma are retracted and it's getting a shade of purple, it seems. I won't let this one go much longer. The other 3 are roughly on same pace. Looking roughly like buds now. Stigmata have at least 50/50 color, but have not retracted like the back-right plant in 3x3. ------------- Overall, had a couple snapped bits here and there in GS tent. Took those off, trimmed them, and after 3 days had a schmoke... it was good with taste similar to previous 2 plants. It was nice and dense like before. It was fairly strong, surprisingly, given the early 'harvest.' One bit in 3x3 also had an issue and was removed, but it has not dried, yet. I'll likely have to through out maybe 10grams here and there per GS plant due to concern the wpm spread from leaves. Possibly a few grams from PG tent too. Jonesing for some decent bud, so the back-right in 3x3 is likely to be harvested soon. I don't wait for heavy amber, anyway. Each time i wait for more amber, i am less impressed with results. Clear trichomes does not mean devoid of THC... cloudy is actually the start of degradation, and amber is degradated from what i've read lately... on a site that doesn't make money marketing products or weed for profit. i should have bookmarked it.

We'll add more info later... 930watts? This site is just bad at math.. holy fuck.. The whole tracking per plant is retarded. A plant can be any size you grow it, within reason. There's no uniformity there to derive any useful information from grams per plant. Adding all the watts up? ffs, it's just set up so poorly. LoL... i'm not going to bother with any of the harvest stats anymore... they make no sense and i don't want to figure it out for a properly calculated g/watt or g/sq ft, which is useful apples-to-apples information. So... All plants have been chopped. 1 plat gelato was chopped few days before. I'm relying on multiple variable instead of just focusing on trichomes, which are only visible on the top layer anyway. Older trichomes, even if less air to cause degradation, are still very likely more mature than what is seen on the surface. After reading a best practices white paper, sticking to 75% rusty stigma, dense feeling nugs and simply starting to see cloudy and amber trichomes. Clear absolutely does not mean devoid of THC. that is an urban myth perpetuated by bro-science. Cloudy is first sign of degradation. The study also showed that peak THC% was 6-7week. Waiting for 9 week increased yield, but THC% was lower. Also, not a fan of couchlock.. I've always felt this was true, yet fought the idea due to inundation of misinformation. I'm going to follow the data and see how i like that for the next few harvests... I won't rule anything out, but i don't think i'll be waiting as long for X% amber or whatever. Platinum Gelato -- Turned out well except for the funky plant, which is fine but noticeably fewer trichomes under scope. Still gets the hands sticky. The rest is a gooey mess handling. Even placing the buds into rack required a hand washing afterward. Potentially some extra flavor this go? These nugs feel denser than the first harvest, too. As they dry, this becomes more apparent. I may do a PG x PG if i can keep a couple plants stashed somewhere.. space will be tight very soon, so this is unlikely. Garlic Storm -- fuck... fuck... fuck.. i really wanted more of this plant. It tastes great and packs a punch. It also has a very weak resistance to mold... Any plant near them got it. Any plant removed from its presence recovered. Fucking garlic storm... Had another plant like this from Anesia.. F#1 was a fucking moldy turd bucket that wreaked havoc in my garden too. I think i had a infected-from-seed plant that fucked the rest, but could be wrong. Still harvested a little over an ounce before i got sick of cleaning my scissors after each and every bud, because they all had a little bit except for a few portions of 1 plant -- not spots on leaves, but eminating from center stem and growing outward on 3 of them... which is why i thought it might be systemic. Anyway... this has also made me rethink breeding project... using a weak plant as the pollen donator may not be best idea. So, we'll see how the CS application goes, then make a decision whether to go on with it or simply be happy with a small harvest to make up for some of the loss here. No signs of wpm. If i can't gain a benefit from starting other breeding projects earlier, I may still go through with it... At the least it'll be worth it just for experience and fewer bumps when it does matter with Blackcherry Pie and Blueberry Muffins