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Fish Head Farms
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Fox Farm
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Indoor
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Manual
Watering
0%
Fox Farm Ocean Forest
Grow medium
LST
week 4
Defoliation
week 4
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Grow Conditions
Week 14
Flowering
55.88
inch
cm
Height
22
inch
cm
Height
16 hrs
Light Schedule
23
°F
°C
Day Air Temperature
73
°F
°C
Day Air Temperature
5.8
pH
400
mS/cm
PPM
TDS
0.8
mS/cm
PPM
EC
45%
Air Humidity
Normal
Smell
21
°F
°C
Solution Temperature
70
°F
°C
Solution Temperature
20
°F
°C
Night Air Temperature
68
°F
°C
Night Air Temperature
3
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Pot Size
11.36
gal
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Pot Size
60.96
inch
cm
Lamp To Plant Distance
24
inch
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Lamp To Plant Distance
0.25
gal
l
Watering Volume Per Plant Per 24h
0.95
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Watering Volume Per Plant Per 24h
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Commented by Bullmark Bullmark
4 days ago

So we just passed the 100 day mark and these plants just don’t wanna finish. New white hairs are constantly poppin, and the old ones aren’t turning and receding very quickly.

I have to admit that I screwed up big time recently. For some unknown reason I defoliated almost all the fan leaves.

I instantly regretted it and just as fast almost all the remaining leaves began to yellow or die.

Two of the three plants are very close to being ripe….literally one little burst will do it.

The third plant isn’t as far along…..lots of stringy white hairs that are just going nowhere and doing nothing.

I don’t know what else to do that will get these plants to finish. The trichs are all cloudy but no ambers….it wouldn’t matter anyway b/c I don’t harvest a plant that isn’t ripe. Once it’s ripe I chop….and the trichs are what they are.

I just don’t know what to make of things…almost all breeder timelines are bogus but when a 9-10 week auto is taking 16-17 weeks (or even longer) something is amiss.

I’d appreciate any advice or comments.

Thanks

Grow Questions
Bullmark week 3 started grow question 3 months ago
Look at these please...
So it’s day 18 and they look healthy. The strain is supposed to be short and stocky, but I’m wondering if they are up to par. How do they look to everyone?
Also, I’m afraid to train b/c they’re so compact....they are loaded w/ nodes. Gimme some reactions..thx
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auto_floo answered grow question 3 months ago
All seems to be as it should be ,good color of leaves looks healthy ,try LST+train a bit ,you should have good outcome .
BeautifulCraftRreddit answered grow question 3 months ago
Everything looks right on par lol sorry bad lighting joke. But all jokes aside she looks good and you seem to have a god hang of what your supposed to do. I would start lst now if you know genetically she is going to be short and stocky so you can maximize the yield from her. Keep up the great work friend!
CG420 answered grow question 3 months ago
The plant seems somewhat short, I would let it grow a little more until I get at least 30-35cm and those :yum: knots appear
Bullmark week 4 started grow question 3 months ago
Will these amount to anything??
What do you think is causing the bright yellow tips on one of the top leaves?? It’s very concentrated and looks like the tip was barely dipped in yellow paint.
Do these two plants, at their current size, have the potential to kick off an ounce or two ? Thanks to all that reply
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Leaves. Other
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Removed answered grow question 3 months ago
Looks indeed like a slight nute burn but also a developing clawing of the leaves which states you have a starting nitrogen toxicity.
Up the phospor and potassium (cal/mag if you didn't gave already) and keep a close eye out for the clawing and nuteburn.
Good luck, should be doing fine after adjustments!
Bullmark week 4 started grow question 2 months ago
Could it be nute burn ?
Some have said nute burn was causing the yellow tips, but I’ve only fed water so far. My soil is FFOF, which is amended. Maybe the soil is too hot?? They are growing and look decent to me. Pics are today which is day 28 from sprout...what does everyone think?
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Dirty_Hippy answered grow question 2 months ago
Hey buddy! I wouldn't worry too much about the funny leaves. I use Fox Farm Soil and fertilizers exclusively and here is what I think:
Over the last 6 mos, I have had 2 batches of FFOF and one of FFSF that came WAY hot. Burned plants for the first time in the many years I have been using it.
I suspect that like all organizations, FoxFarm was effected by Covid. Maybe QC isn't up to par for a minute... Hope they fix it soon!
You can mix some more Dolomite Lime into your hot bag of soil to act as a buffer. There is supposed to be Dolomite present already, but it will help to add a bit.
My last Cherry Sumo had C-shaped leaves all through flower, but put out a great harvest of the finest smoke to come out of my garden in a minute.
The hot soil should sort itself out over time. I would just pretend it wasn't there :P
Happy Harvests bro they are looking fantastic!
KinoBudz74 answered grow question 2 months ago
Just light nothing major just hold back on the nutes since it’s a auto flower. I ran my auto in hhof by itself and it did good. Only nutes I would say add will be bloom nutes when you get to that time. Good luck
Ezzjaybruh answered grow question 2 months ago
Im not saying theres any major issue here.. but FFOF is hot ass soil - then adding amendments on top of that in the first 30 days is a lot of excess nutrients in my opinion, and this is an auto so it can be more sensitive to nutes. There is some slight nutrient burn on the tips - nothing too concerning. I would let it ride with straight water for a week or so.. then asses the situation. You'll be good tho
Bullmark week 4 started grow question 2 months ago
Nute burn clarification
For the record I have not added any nutrients...just plain water. Any nute burn would have to be from the soil being a bit hot.
I did introduce a less than recommended dose of fish sh!t to the last watering.
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Leaves. Edges burnt
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KushGANG answered grow question 2 months ago
Hello like i said you did it great and just give her water during 2 weeks to let her the time to recover from the small nutrient burn. Otherwise good job because your plant is healthy with a beautiful green . good job. Bye
KinoBudz74 answered grow question 2 months ago
Just give her some time to get use to the soil then she should be good. Good luck
DissNoof answered grow question 2 months ago
hi there Bullmark, Fishshit is basically kelp extract right? so this will contain quite concentrated doses of N as well as some kinds of stimulants for "rhizosphere" microbes. Meaning it's good for the vegetative stage but it can cause things like a rising soil pH and undesirable root zone microbes over time. The truth is, you're still doing well, the burnt tips are not serious at all, the root zone issues neither, just keep doing what you're doing and avoid more feeds, nothing you can do about the amended soil, and like i said, it's not a big deal at all. In about 2 weeks or so you can consider adding more nutrients, but until then, put her in cruise control and just ride it out watering exactly like you've been doing which is totally fine. hope this helps ! :rocket:
Bullmark week 5 started grow question 2 months ago
Crucial time
33days since sprouting. Began flowering about a week ago. So far Ive added just water and tiny doses of fish sh!t & cal mag. The soil has to be close to being depleted of nutes. Should I start with a low dose of liquids or top dress with time release powder?? Or wait longer
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Hashy answered grow question 2 months ago
Personally I would start feeding at 1/4 strength liquid nutes from now, start at the early bloom stage on the brands schedule. As for slow release powder nutes I'm not a great fan of them with cannabis plants, they good for other plants but I find it better to give the plant what it wants when it wants.
DissNoof answered grow question 2 months ago
Hey there Bullmark, i see you think the soil is "almost depleted" but it's far from it. first off you've actually been feeding, seems like too little but then again, it's soil, so it doesnt need much. Second the plant is doing well, you dont need to worry about nutrition until you hit flower. I use top feed dry nutes, i like that system better because you can measure out the nutrients quickly and cleanly. But in your case i would go for liquids just because it's easier to figure out . I would wait longer, the get flowering nutrients, calmag, and humic acid as an additive. folks are surprised what a huge difference the right nutrients at the right time can make. Hope this helps :rocket:
Roberts answered grow question 2 months ago
Time release nutes are not a great option for cannabis. You should be adding some nutrition. Higher potassium and phosphorus levels are required in flowering for a better product. Good luck and happy growing :seedling:
Bullmark week 6 started grow question 2 months ago
What to do next??
Plants became underwatered when I left town. Gave them 1/2gal each w/ a touch of big bloom. Pics are 12hrs after feeding. Do they look like they should? Anything else I should do, other than water and light bloom nutes?
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KushGANG answered grow question 2 months ago
Hello Bullmark your plants seems to recover good from the underwater. The only thing to do is to water them correctly now. Good luck. Bye
DissNoof answered grow question 2 months ago
looks fine to me, just keep a look out for pH and root zone issues from the fishshit , it can raise the pH quite quickly , keep up the good work :rocket:
Bullmark week 8 started grow question 2 months ago
Need your guesses
Guess my harvest over/under.. for fun let me know whether you think my take on these 3 gals will be Over or Under 1.75oz dry cured weight. For the record, they are in FFOF 100%..for the last couple weeks been adding very light nutes..320W LED, about 4 weeks to go.
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Hashy answered grow question 2 months ago
Even though you have some way to go yet I see plenty of pistils on each plant so your going to have a good amount of bud. Weight wise, one on left is capable of hitting your 1.75oz target, middle one prob 1 oz, right one similar to what your left one does. If your target is 1.75 oz for the grow in total then your going to smash that.
Growlady answered grow question 2 months ago
Autos are funny plants I have 6 going 1 broke last week so took down and only got 9g on 1 plants and 13g from 2nd I still have 4 going with 2 week left but Autos aren't great for big yields I'm sticking to photo's take longer but better smoke and better yields
couplethatgrows420 answered grow question 2 months ago
yeah like the other stated I believe you will surpass your goal.
I also went into my first grow hoping to at least pull an ounce per plant and almost got a pound from 3 autos.
Bullmark week 8 started grow question 1 month ago
Do I have a problem?
Day60, auto, and she’s looks pale..probably 4wks to go and there is some fading, plus 4-5 leaves are worse w/spots. I can tell the leaves are getting lighter.Using FFOF, and I’ve only given light bloom nutes. Should I give some N? Also, do u agree w/ my timeline for finish?
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Leaves. Color - Pale
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Tonysmoke answered grow question 1 month ago
Just checked and you are providing 3 different bloom nutrients at the same time, probably you overedosed a specific nutrient and this is causing a block
Bullmark week 8 started grow question 1 month ago
How do I measure ph?
Ok so this may be a dumb ?, but my only method for measuring ph is with my pen...I make sure the watering/feeding is correct, and I’ve measured runoff, although I’m told by smart folks not to water to runoff and it’s ph tells me nothing...So, how do I know the Ph?
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JR1992 answered grow question 1 month ago
Hello,

The PH need to be checked on your water after adding your nutrients, now you water your plant and also check the PH from the drained water(i dont do this all the time, but from time to time or after transplant) by this for example you know that your water with nutrients had 6.0 PH for example, and the water drained had 5.5, now you know that the next water you can give is a 6.5 ph to increase the soils ph as the soil is getting a bit more acid, i also recomend to check from time to time the ppm with a tds meter from the water drained, by this you know if there are too much salt in your soil
Chow_13 answered grow question 1 month ago
I'm not sure about these smart folks but I am guessing they are talking about organic soil which is way different then coco. From what I understand is you always want a little bit of runoff with coco to avoid salt buildup's which can cause nutrient lockout. As for PH they are correct. What you do want to keep an eye on is the EC/PPM of what you have going in to the EC/PPM going out to have an idea of how much she is eating and if you should increase/decrease nutrients. Remember EC in mixes with the current EC in the coco and then exits. So if you put .600 ec in for 2 weeks then increase the feeding to .1000 your ec out will gradually get to 1000 after several feeds and not right away.

Here is a copy and paste from a web site:
Although it is critical to adjust the pH of the inflow, you should not be concerned with the pH of the run-off water. Your only concern with pH is always providing nutrient solution (inflow) that is in the appropriate range. Many growers make the bad decision to provide nutrient solution that is outside of the acceptable range in a misguided attempt to correct run-off pH values. This can destabilize the pH of the nutrient solution in the root zone and make nutrients unavailable. To avoid this common pitfall, simply ignore the pH of the run-off.
Bullmark week 10 started grow question 4 weeks ago
Yield estimates
The 3 girls have a few weeks left. I’m hoping the buds will pack on a bit more, but I don’t think it’s a bad grow considering it’s my first indoor and first auto.
So the question is what do u think the dry yield will be? The buds are kinda hard and not fluffy....Gimme your #
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HighRoller909 answered grow question 4 weeks ago
30-33-42. looks beautiful btw
Bullmark week 11 started grow question 3 weeks ago
What to do next??
I fed on the heavy side the last few feedings and got a little burn close to the buds....not good. They are progressing but slow. Buds are spitting out huge white pistils...trichs are half cloudy, no amber. What’s my move? Food? Just water? Gonna be 2wks min b4 chop....
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Fruitgrower answered grow question 3 weeks ago
Keep feeding. No need to start flushing until buds look almost ready and at that point you're probably still looking at 7-14 days from chopping - plenty of time to flush. They really take longer than you think to finish up and change from translucent to cloudy and amber. :grin::seedling::+1:
Cheeba_Inu answered grow question 3 weeks ago
I would flush, feed for another few weeks, then do the final flush. If you are getting new white pistils that tells me new calyxes are growing, and who doesnt want chunkier buds. When you scout for trichomes make sure your not checking the newest growth if calyxes keep stacking or you notice foxtailing. They are looking very nice so far, so I'm sure the harvest will be fantastic :+1:
Kush_queen answered grow question 3 weeks ago
I personally would just feed her ph'd water for remainder of the grow let her use up her stored nutrients :green_heart::pray:
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