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Never tried anything from Surfr. Lots of different crosses from them. Wanted to try something different and said why not. This is jet fuel Gelato x redneck wedding (gmo x trophy wife) I think the trophy wife is just a pheno of wedding cake? Maybe not. But I believe all these varieties are from phat panda in Oregon. These are regular seeds and chance of a male..so popped 2 beans. Have 13 more plus a freebie pack from them of ogchem x unknown cookies. Pop those sometime in the future. Should be another great cross.