Website Updated πŸš€ Experiencing issues? Tell us - feedback form or email, we're here!
Chat
RecommendedRecommended

Cloning Flowering Autoflowers?

9
52
44
2369
6 years ago
Follow
9
LED/250W
Light
LED/250W
Light
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks Technique
Topping
weeks Technique
Grow Conditions
Week 7
Flowering
68.58
cm
inch
Height
19 hrs
Light Schedule
15+ conditions after
Login
Commented by
BucketBrigade BucketBrigade
6 years ago
I've come to the conclusion that the yellowing was mainly the fan leaves, so I pruned most of those and now it seems more of the plant is getting light. In addition, she is suffering light burn on the leaves most directly under the LED. I can't raise the lamp any higher due to the tent and I have no more space to bend branches and colas lower. So there isn't much I can do at this stage but wait. I've been checking the tricomes, they are all still clear. Assuming she makes it past the light burn, I think she has at least 2 weeks left. SHe smells very strong of spice and citris! I just added some new close up photos. Are the tricomes clear or milky? How close do you think to harvest?
Similar Diaries
3 Purple Lemonade FF - FastBuds
1 weeks
3 Purple Lemonade FF - FastBudsLonelyStonerz
Fast Buds - Purple Lemonade FF
6 minutes ago
Tangerine Dream
8 weeks
Tangerine DreamJDK710
Growers Choice Seeds - Tangerine Dream Auto
2 months ago Β· 1 comment
Rookie Run - NL & TD
14 weeks
Rookie Run - NL & TDKoelah
+1 strain
2 months ago Β· 5 comments
Tangerine Dream Auto Growers Choice
16 weeks
Tangerine Dream Auto Growers ChoiceJordanThe420BarB
Growers Choice Seeds - Tangerine Dream Auto
2 months ago Β· 5 comments
Tangerine Dream Auto - Growers Choice
6 weeks
Tangerine Dream Auto - Growers Choicegrowrichgrow
Growers Choice Seeds - Tangerine Dream Auto
8 months ago Β· 4 comments
Tangerine Dream First Grow Outdoors
7 weeks
Tangerine Dream First Grow OutdoorsBillbrewbaggins
Growers Choice Seeds - Tangerine Dream Auto
9 months ago Β· 1 comment
Cowboy
15 weeks
CowboyCowboy
Growers Choice Seeds - Tangerine Dream Auto
2 years ago Β· 8 comments
Grow Questions
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigadestarted grow question 6 years ago
I'd really like some recommendations on pruning or thinning out these two cloned Tangerine Dream Autos. I read a lot that states I should leave them alone, but these two look very chaotic!
Solved
Techniques. Defoliation
like
MUDBUG
MUDBUGanswered grow question 6 years ago
I would just trim her up very lightly here and there i would not stress her anymore i would add b52 so them buds fatten up and taking sum of the stress off her start defol the bottom a lil here a lil there i wouldnt cut but 3 4 leaves a day nice workβœŒοΈβœŒοΈπŸ‘πŸ‘
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigadestarted grow question 6 years ago
Have a look at my leaves that have turned yellow and red. I've search online and can't seem to find a similar picture. Is this normal due to late flowering in some plants? Is this a nute problem? If I add the needed nutes, will this clear up? What's going on?
Solved
Leaves. Color - Red or pink
like
Stick
Stickanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hi @BucketBrigade! I won't worry too much at this stage, your plant is ending its lifecycle, she's consuming every nutrients she can, and most of them come from the leaves. This is called "senescence", and its basically the process of deterioration with age. I hope you've been flushing for the last days, because I see many cloudy trichomes, meaning she's getting ready and harvest should happen in a few days. Depending on the effects you want, you need to get 80-100% of milky trichomes for an energetic high (more THC), or 15-30% of amber trichomes for a couch-locking high (more CBN/CBD). So in this situation I'd stop the nutrients, flush for at least a week with plain pH'd water, then enjoy the harvest 😎Hope this will help, keep us up-to-date and good luck for the last days πŸ‘Š
Comments
Login

Show by Week
Sort by
popularity
popularity
newest
oldest
RussianGrower
RussianGrowerweek 1
It is interesting to observe this experience. But as far as I know, clones have the same stage of development as the parent plant. It makes sense to clone auto flowers in the very early stages of vegetation, if you do it on the flowering period, the small auto flowers all exactly bloom and get micro-growing with micro-harvesting. But again it is in theory! As will be in practice, you can see for yourself. There is a possibility that the plant will become a hermaphrodite from overdose and stress, but it depends on the predisposition of genetics. For cloning autoflowers suitable strains sativa with a long stage of vegetation and if you try to clone a very young plant, so he had time to recover at the stage of vegetation, it is possible you will succeed and you will identify a full auto-flowering clone, a long time ago I heard from friends about such a successful experiment. To do this, you need to comply with the accuracy of the calculations of the stage of life of plants and do everything with surgical precision
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade
@RussianGrower, It looks like you are right. These do seem to be be flower mode. I'm anxious to see what these grow into.
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigadeweek 7
@Flavoursuk, @PussyWagon6969, @Coopman, @Squirrel_Master, @Dunk_Junk, @Lou_Grows, @iDontEvenGrow, Hello everyone. Have a look at the photos. I have some closeups of the tricomes. Are they clear? Milky? When do you think they are ready for harvest?
PussyWagon6969
PussyWagon6969
@BucketBrigade, trust me (see my week 11 of Tangerine Dream), the wait is soooo worth it. I harvested my primo cola way to early because I thought it was done and it shriveled into some pretty low quality stuff. I probably dried way to fast but still... the buds I harvested 2.5 weeks later are sooo much better. Also, the one month cure is also well worth the wait. The smells that develop are insane....
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade
@PussyWagon6969, I'm going to upload some better photos in another day or so. The waiting is killing me! Thanks for the link!
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade
@Flavoursuk, Good point. I'll improve the lighting and try again.
Load more (2)
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigadeweek 1
@Flavoursuk, @PussyWagon6969, @Coopman, @Squirrel_Master, @Dunk_Junk, @Lou_Grows, @iDontEvenGrow, Have a look. Cloned from a flowering autoflower. They do seem to be growing a little differently than straight from seed. No flowers are growing yet, but those are odd bunches of leaves. I already have a little nute burn. I just watered the solution down to try and take care of that. But, they seem to be doing ok otherwise. What do you think about those small bunches of leaves on both plants?
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade
@Lou_Grows, Yes, she was flowering when I cut the clones. She was about 2 to 3 weeks into flowering.
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade
@Dunk_Junk, I am as well!
Lou_Grows
Lou_Grows
@BucketBrigade, was the mother flowering when you cut it?
Load more (1)
Thegermling509
Thegermling509week 10
Well thanks to your experimenting I now know that cloning a flowering auto does work. There is an evident loss in quantity but it does seem to work. Please update us with a smoke report. Also, do you mind posting photos of the root system? Thanks for your contribution to the community!!!
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade
@Thegermling509, Have a look. I posted several photos. I tried to keep these plants small. If you have a look at my previous diary, you will see the parent they were cloned from. She was a monster plant and I needed these to be much smaller. These were actually cloned and grown in 2 inch grow cups to help limit their growth. Next time, I'll use agressive training. Also, these were dried agressively (beginners mistake) for a day before posting the wet harvest weight. The branches already started to snap. I expect the sweat/fermentation will help these cure properly.
Dunk_Junk
Dunk_Junkweek 8
She's not far away now! Great work documenting this. One request if I may? I'd like to see a wide shot of her so I can see how tall she is. πŸ‘Œ
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade
@Dunk_Junk, Absolutely, have a look. Apologies for the lighting. For my next grow I'm considering adding additional lighting to the tent just for better photography. Also, there are actually 2 clones from the same auto flowering parent that I have been posting photos from. The taller ended up looking like a barely trained plant with one cola higher than all the others, This one has put most of her energy into the tallest cola. The second plant I managed to train just slightly better. She seems to have applied more energy across multiple colas. They are substiantially fatter than the 1st plant. And overall, very few green leaves left.
OutForReal
OutForRealweek 8
Hello ! I can see on your pics that's your trichomes are Clear & cloudy , I would say 50%/50% so your harvest will come soon ! The yellowing phenomenon at the end of flowering is the senescence , in your case maybe an early senescence ! An early senescence is mostly cause by under feeding your plants , I can see than you'r using the same amont of Grow / Micro & Bloom : at that stage you should not , the feeding chart says 3ml Grow 6ml Micro 9ml Bloom for 10L of water but you'r giving them 6ml of each so the nutient "balance" is not good ! If you correct it everything will be fine , but I really likes thoses colours 😍 ! Holp it will help you πŸ‘
DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeedweek 8
It is because you are getting close to harvest. It’s normal for the leaves to start changing colors near the end. Similar to trees in autumn. Happy harvesting! πŸ‘
StonedWolf
StonedWolfweek 1
I love experiments like this! Thanks for giving evidence, one way or the other, to something "everyone knows" Good luck and I am excited to see the outcome of this!
Dunk_Junk
Dunk_Junkweek 7
Stunning pictures this week (7) what are you using? πŸ‘
Dunk_Junk
Dunk_Junk
@BucketBrigade, Thank you Sir!
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade
@Dunk_Junk, Sent the info via chat
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade
@Dunk_Junk, I'll send the info shortly. The macro lens is tricky to focus. It has a very narrow depth of field. If the surface is not flat and you are close to the subject, parts will always be out of focus. Basically you get the choose which part you want in focus, but not all of it. They are great for portraits with blury backgrounds.
Load more (3)
PussyWagon6969
PussyWagon6969week 10
Nice work dude! Just an FYI, I tried drying a sample bud next to my light (like yours) while it was running and it dried WAAAAAYYY too fast. My little branches ended up snapping within 48 hrs.... My real harvest I was able to dry for 4 days total before little branches were starting to snap and that bud turned out to be really fragrant (compared to the fast drying sample). Learn from my mistake, the slow dry mixed with a nice month long cure really does make a difference!πŸ˜€
PussyWagon6969
PussyWagon6969
@BucketBrigade, yeah mine was a bit stinky out of the tent... though the smell seemed to subside a little bit after a few days but it’s possible I was used to it. Maybe try using the brown paper bag method? Inside the tent that might help protect it from over drying or using outside of the tent might help conceal the smell... sorry I feel like this is going beyond my scope of experience
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade
@PussyWagon6969, Thanks for that information. I had no idea! Does it smell as they dry out of the tent? I placed them in the tent to deal with the odor that I appreciate but no one else does.
PussyWagon6969
PussyWagon6969week 8
Lookin great, can't wait to see the final yield off of a cloned Auto!!
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade
@PussyWagon6969, You and me both!
VT420
VT420week 5
I took a lower branch from my TD that had one or two hairs on a very tiny bud and cloned it. It hasn't grown taller but the bud is growing well.
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade
@VT420, That's cool. It's essentially what I did. However, I trimmed the tiny bud/cola that was developing thinking I could force it into a veg mode. The plant acted just as if I had topped it normally. Both cuttings did and they are the ones growing in the photos.
Dunk_Junk
Dunk_Junkweek 4
They are doing far better than they have any right too! Amazing progress. Looks like it is a success right now!
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigade
@Dunk_Junk, It does seem like it. But it might be too early. I won't call it a success unless I get a reasonable harvest. It will be some time still until that happens.
Stick
Stickweek 8
Hi @BucketBrigade! I won't worry too much at this stage, your plant is ending its lifecycle, she's consuming every nutrients she can, and most of them come from the leaves. This is called "senescence", and its basically the process of deterioration with age. I hope you've been flushing for the last days, because I see many cloudy trichomes, meaning she's getting ready and harvest should happen in a few days. Depending on the effects you want, you need to get 80-100% of milky trichomes for an energetic high (more THC), or 15-30% of amber trichomes for a couch-locking high (more CBN/CBD). So in this situation I'd stop the nutrients, flush for at least a week with plain pH'd water, then enjoy the harvest 😎Hope this will help, keep us up-to-date and good luck for the last days πŸ‘Š
Lou_Grows
Lou_Growsweek 7
I think you still have a week or two to go brother
PussyWagon6969
PussyWagon6969week 5
Still killin it Bucket! Love watching this grow develop =D
PussyWagon6969
PussyWagon6969week 4
Wow! What a trip... I thought for sure this was going to be a super stunted plant but its size is legit. Cool to see the growth mutations on those leaves!
Dunk_Junk
Dunk_Junkweek 3
Just have to say this is an awesome insight into cloning autoflowers.
Dunk_Junk
Dunk_Junkweek 2
Wow she is a weird looking thing! But she is growing! Still interesting stuff!!!!
Socrat63s
Socrat63sweek 10
Awesome post, been wondering for a long time if you could clone autos successfully. Felt like a pos for mistakenly topping my AK auto while doing LST, so maybe i can salvage the clone... Thanks for the info . 😎