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BlackThumb BlackThumb
6 years ago
Day 23 (Veg Week 3 Day 1) did nothing. 24 hour leaf growth is amazing! Day 24 repotted; fed and adjusted lights; 4 inch height. Day 25 height 5.75 inches Day 26 rearranged tent; added 2 60w grow bulbs plus reg 23w LED bulb; mixed last batch of soil for final repotting (TBA); fed and adjusted lights; turned AC down from 76 to 72 (reg bulbs add a LOT of heat) no noticeable growth Day 27 fed 3 cups, 1 cup runoff; No noticeable growth Day 28 5 cup ph 6.2 w/feed; no noticeable growth 🐌; guess I’m expecting some sort of miraculous overnight growth Day 29 repotted in 3 gal Conclusion: NOT AUTO Will wait and see what week 4 brings!
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Grow Questions
BlackThumb
BlackThumbstarted grow question 6 years ago
Week 3 Day 6: under 6 inch HELP Other than being autoflower & transplanting couple times, which I won't do next time, are there any other reasons for stunted growth during veg phase? Or are my logs normal & I'm just impatient? I've put every detail I can think of in my diary.
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispereranswered grow question 6 years ago
Hey dude, temps good, humidity good, light sched. Good. Your ph is on the high side (not by a ton for soil though). if your nute sched. Is accurate then I’m not sure why you’d be feeding bloom nutes while she’s still in veg??? All said, she looks pretty healthy. Biggest limiting factor with growth I can see is the pot size, my guess is that her roots are already winding around the inside of that pot and I would move to at least a three gallon, preferably 5 gallon while you still have time before flowering starts. Best of luck and feel free to reach out if any of this was helpful. Cheers
BlackThumb
BlackThumbstarted grow question 6 years ago
Any tips on scoping trichs? I have a pocket scope with a LED on base and super shaky hands. What and WHERE am I supposed to be looking? I know it’s too soon now (day 39 of 65ish) but I wanna figure it out before it’s too late. Any tips/tricks much appreciated!
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Stick
Stickanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hi @BlackThumb! The trichomes onto the buds (don't look onto sugar leaves) should have changed from thin & clear / transparent to fat & milky / cloudy / opaque. Once you'll get only milky trichomes, the harvest window is open! For an energetic high, harvest before the first amber trichomes appear. For a couch-locking high, you'd rather harvest once 20-30% of the trichomes have turned amber/red, you'll get more CBN/CBD but less THC. From what I see on your last pictures, I think you still have 3 to 4 weeks to go. Hope this will help, keep us up-to-date and enjoy your harvest 👊
BlackThumb
BlackThumbstarted grow question 6 years ago
Week 18 day 124 pics. I have new growth in and on buds. Is this normal? Is this part of it or a mutation or stress or?????
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Stickanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hi @BlackThumb! This is weird, it looks like your plant is re-vegging, are you sure you don't have any light-leak in your grow room? Nothing disturbing plants at night? Timer is working as usual? In this situation I'm afraid I would proceed to harvest now, because if this diagnosis is confirmed, your buds are going to loose their potency day after day. Keep us up-to-date, good luck with this 👊
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BlackThumb
BlackThumbweek 3
After a friend looked her over because of my stunted growth issue, they decided the pot was way too small and I wasn't letting her dry out enough between feedings. They also discovered the seed I ordered and the seed I received were not the same. She is NOT an auto. According to them, she isn't nute locked and she isn't root locked, yet. The "bloom" feed is an all stage feed in addition to the specific stage (veg) feed. They suggested a final replant and to let her dry more (feed when meter is 1-3 on a 10 scale). Also said I could use cider vinegar to lower the PH a bit as a quick but very temp fix until I can get a PH down chem but to flush (with molasses water?) before adding actual PH chem. Going to replant later today in a 3 gallon finisher, the largest pot I have, invest in a moisture meter (actually already ordered the one they suggested and it's on its way), and get some PH down chem, using vinegar if needed until arrival. Definitely a learning experience. That is why I'm growing ONE first.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 17
Hmmm if it’s only isolated to one or a couple leaves, don’t stress it👍
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@BlackThumb, hey dude, not knowing the strain details I’m gonna guess the typical 8 weeks of flowering (give or take). I’d say at the end of this week (7 by your numbers) I’d start to flush. Probably flush for 2 weeks but a little less or more won’t mattter much. The purpose is always to flush out any lingering nutrients that haven’t yet been absorbed by the plants roots so u should be good to start now. Ur prob. Watering fairly often so it won’t take much to get er completely flushed out. The rest is just monitoring trichs and picking the best time to chop. Sadly this time is largely based on preference and experience. 😉. Hope it helps homie, lookn good!👊👍👊
BlackThumb
BlackThumb
@TheBudWhisperer, when should I start flushing?
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@BlackThumb, yeah think ur good bud. FYI - most grows tend to go a week or so longer than the suggested flowering time of the breeder. Per @Stick comment from week 16 - monitor for trichome development over the next 3-4 weeks. Best way to determine level of doneness/goodness 😛. Reach out any time if unsure👍
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Stick
Stickweek 18
Hi @BlackThumb! This is weird, it looks like your plant is re-vegging, are you sure you don't have any light-leak in your grow room? Nothing disturbing plants at night? Timer is working as usual? In this situation I'm afraid I would proceed to harvest now, because if this diagnosis is confirmed, your buds are going to loose their potency day after day. Keep us up-to-date, good luck with this 👊
BlackThumb
BlackThumb
@Stick, Started harvesting. 10 seconds in I don’t know what I’m looking at. It wasn’t there 2 days ago. Did my shit just herm? Found out it wasn’t a light leak. My timer quit working and lights were on 24/7 for last, I’m guessing week or so.
BlackThumb
BlackThumb
@Stick, what are the chances this early harvest will help with pain?
BlackThumb
BlackThumb
@Stick, ah screw it. I’m awake and angry with myself. I’m harvesting tonight. Lesson learned.
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Kirr38
Kirr38week 5
Vinegar is also a good way to kill a living plant. If you have PH conecerns....check into the Advanced Nutrients PH Perfect nutrient line-up this has helped people I know and I started to compare it to my Humboldt Naturals with no complaints so far.
Kirr38
Kirr38
"the claw" usually references to too much nitrogen (nitrogen toxicity) the ends of your leaves curled downwards and inwards hard like a Bird of prey's talons.
BlackThumb
BlackThumb
@Kirr38, thanks! Not sure if it was the vinegar, PH change, or too much feed, but something gave her claws. I stopped vinegar, flushed, and have PH down now, and cut feed in half the strength I had been using. She seems to be doing better so I’m going to stick to half feed and using PH down until she complains.
bobo420
bobo420week 3
She's a beauty ;) Green and healthy, good job ;)
BlackThumb
BlackThumb
@bobo420, Thanks! Still not sure what I'm doing yet, but I check on her everyday. Pondering LST and if she's ready for it or with her being an auto if it would be best to let nature take its course. Decisions. Decisions,
bobo420
bobo420week 1
Good luck with the grow ;)
BlackThumb
BlackThumb
@bobo420, Thank you!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 18
Damn dude this is disappointing to hear. Ultimately it’s still a haul dude so weigh it out and most importantly test er 😉 for experience sake. Congrats on the harvest dude - even if early.
Stick
Stickweek 16
Hi @BlackThumb! The trichomes onto the buds (don't look onto sugar leaves) should have changed from thin & clear / transparent to fat & milky / cloudy / opaque. Once you'll get only milky trichomes, the harvest window is open! For an energetic high, harvest before the first amber trichomes appear. For a couch-locking high, you'd rather harvest once 20-30% of the trichomes have turned amber/red, you'll get more CBN/CBD but less THC. From what I see on your last pictures, I think you still have 3 to 4 weeks to go. Hope this will help, keep us up-to-date and enjoy your harvest 👊
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 16
Runn’n good dude👍 Steady as she goes😎
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 14
Still works it! She’s looking quality!
ChefDan420
ChefDan420week 14
Looking good 👍🏿
bobo420
bobo420week 13
Looking very nice, good job ;)
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 10
Gettn er done dude 👍
garneroutlaw
garneroutlawweek 10
Nice plant. That cotton candy put me on my ass. Careful with it at first. It's a super powerful head high like purple trainwreck.
bobo420
bobo420week 9
That's a lovely lady ;)
ChefDan420
ChefDan420week 8
👍🏿 Good job
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 8
Lookn good!
bobo420
bobo420week 7
Coming along nicely ;)
bobo420
bobo420week 18
Congrats on the harvest ;)
BlackThumb
BlackThumbweek 18
The harvest, a pitiful one, weighed in at a mere 24g dry and deseeded. Seeds were EVERYWHERE. So many seeds! The harvest was very early and all girls started to reveg due to a timer malfunction. After curing 30 days and testing. It smells off, still like Bengay. It is so very weak. Potent enough to relax but does nothing, absolutely nothing for pain, which is the biggest bummer. Not knockin those of you who like/love the smell/taste, I do not enjoy either. Aside from an IV drip of Dilaudid, it's the only thing that kills my back pain and Dilaudid make me feel like bugs are crawling all over me and starts shutting down my kidneys after a while, My doc has no problem with that but I do so I thought I'd give growing a try because I don't trust a lot of people and want to know exactly what I'm using. I used only 1 seed to grow all of my girls. The timer malfunction is what I assumed to be the cause of the herm, but after two more grows using clones from the same seed and otherwise near perfect conditions and no malfunctions did the same thing, I've concluded that the seed was the cause. I'm very disappointed. I'm angry. I'm hurting. I want to give up. I don't want to invest all the time and funds into this all over again, in case it happens again. BUT I have 4 more seeds and I'm also determined. This time I'm going to take the first two viable clones from seed 2 and force flower ASAP just to see if they herm as well, and possibly get me to a pain free "full" harvest. I'm not a praying person but I'll pray to Ra, the sun god, if that's what it takes at this point. I just want the pain to go away without having to resort back to Dilaudid.