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Amnesia Lemon
Blackberry Gum
Gold Leaf
Sherbert
Zkittlez
Indoor
Room Type
Topping
weeks 8-16, 19
Rain Water
weeks 15
Aquarium Water
weeks 11-14, 16, 19
Defoliation
weeks 7-19
Using Dirty Aquarium Water
weeks 6
Using Aquarium Water
weeks 7
LST
weeks 7-8
Dirty Aquarium Water
weeks 9-10
Coco Coir
Grow medium
Soil
Grow medium
4 L
Pot Size
1.14 L
Watering
0
Germination
3 years ago
I use dirty fish tank water in my aero/hydroponic system. I dip the clone stems in the mycorrhizal fungi powder before inserting into bubble cloner. I'm on day 9 for 30 of the clones & the rest of the clones are on day 1. Any clones that didn't make it I replaced them with additional clones from that same mother. I have an age variety of clones with full root systems, just starting to show shoots & ones that will need a week at least before they'll show signs of root formation.
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Week 1. Vegetation
3 years ago
12.7 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
Weak
89 %
29 °C
21 °C
81.28 cm
32 Site Bubble Cloner: Amnesia Lemon 2/5 (2 swollen look like roots will start) Blackberry Gum 3/5 (2 swollen look like roots will start) Gelato 4/5 (1 swollen look like roots will start) Gold Leaf 4/5 (0 swollen look like roots will start) Sherbert 4/6 (1 swollen look like roots will start) Zkittlez 5/6 (1 swollen look like roots will start) *Amnesia Lemon, Blackberry Gum & Sherbet strains have the fewest with roots. Amnesia Lemon are kinda droopy & don't have many with roots either. Blackberry Gum many really don't have roots only a couple with roots barely starting but have healthy looking leaves. Sherbert always looks sad/droopy leaves but has roots but not tons of roots.* *Gold Leaf's were the first to show roots & many have nice long root systems. Gelato's has nice root systems as well. Zkittlez was a little slower to start but picking up now with some roots.* 6 Site Bubble Cloner: *still too early to tell - only 2 days old* Gold Leaf /2 Sherbert /2 Zkittlez /2 *There are several clones that have full root systems that can be transplanted into soil*
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Week 2. Vegetation
3 years ago
20.32 cm
18 hrs
21 °C
Weak
70 %
24 °C
19 °C
4 L
81.28 cm
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
Transplanted all clones from bubble cloner to 1 gallon pots or nursery bags. The clones in a 1 gallon pots will be my pair to make feminized seeds with. Force one to become male then pollinate the other. I'm keeping the vegetative stage much shorter than I had wanted too but the original order of the mothers were delayed by 2 months. I'm planning an outdoor very early spring harvest. Putting the males outside to make pollen - less of a cleanup hassle. Flowering & pollinating the females indoors in the very early spring too and letting them grow those seeds!
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cheetah844
cheetah844started grow question 3 years ago
Could I bump these up to 20 or 24 hours without harm to the plants? I normally do 18/6 but I want them to grow as much as possible because this grow was delayed by 2 months, I'm extremely short on time. I will force pollen on 1 and the other will be female - making feminized seed
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m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
Giving them more light will make them grow bigger but will not speed along their natural timeline. Look into DLI and how it relates to plants. All plants need a rest period of some sort. I would not go past 20/4 and normally grow on 18/6. As they are all photoperiod plants you could flip them to 12/12 right now and they will flower when they are mature, Around week 4 or 5. I would recommend spraying the plant you want pollen from on week 3 so it starts with the pollen asap vs waiting longer if time is crunched. Be careful as it will pollinate anything else in the tent. Your two months of loss will not be fully recovered by you can maybe gain back a few weeks in 12/12. Best Of Luck!
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Week 3. Vegetation
3 years ago
22.86 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
6.3
Weak
68 %
24 °C
18 °C
4 L
0 L
81.28 cm
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
Roots are growingggg - busting out of the sides of the nursery bags already!
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Week 4. Vegetation
3 years ago
27.94 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
6
Weak
658 PPM
60 %
24 °C
18 °C
4 L
0 L
81.28 cm
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
They're coming along nicely. I'm thinking about minimal training for better pollen & seed production. Still unsure what to do with the extras....
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Week 5. Vegetation
3 years ago
27.94 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
6
Weak
658 PPM
60 %
24 °C
18 °C
4 L
0 L
81.28 cm
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
Getting there - starting to fill out. I wish I had more space I have too many clones - I took more than enough because I wanted to make sure of survival rate because this was my first time cloning. Not a bad problem to have but I don't want to just let them die - maybe I'll just leave them in their nursery bag & see what happens...
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Week 6. Vegetation
3 years ago
35.56 cm
20 hrs
24 °C
5.8
Weak
395 PPM
66 %
23 °C
18 °C
4 L
0 L
71.12 cm
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
The tent is definitely overcrowded, they're starting to really take-off. I need to get the females I'm going to force pollen outside but it's still too cold. I may have to make a makeshift grow area for a month. Aquarium water: 6.82pH 395 PPM 73.4⁰F I used Bloom City pH Down until I hit 6pH
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Week 7. Vegetation
3 years ago
38.1 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
6.4
Weak
381 PPM
63 %
23 °C
18 °C
4 L
1 L
66.04 cm
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
Dirty Aquarium Water: 6.43 pH 381 PPM 73.4⁰F They've gotten both bushier & taller, I needed to create more room in the tent for the clones that I will make seeds from, so I moved the extra clones I'm uncertain of what I'm going to do with it into a makeshift grow area. I'm waiting for temperatures to stay consistently warm outside so I can get these soon to be forced female outdoors to start making feminized seeds.
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Using Aquarium Water
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Week 8. Vegetation
3 years ago
38.1 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
6.4
Weak
381 PPM
53 %
23 °C
18 °C
4 L
1 L
55.88 cm
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
Moved light up 3" (now at 22" from plants) the plants directly under the light were showing light bleaching. I kept the light at 80% brightness. I'll keep an eye on it but I may have to turn brightness down because I'm as high as I can go with the light. After keeping an eye on them for several days they still continued to show light bleaching so I reduced light brightness to 50%. That seems to be the perfect setup & distance for the clones with this light. I either topped, trained & defoliate the ones that needed it.
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Week 9. Vegetation
3 years ago
43.18 cm
18 hrs
22 °C
6.6
Weak
1082 PPM
59 %
23 °C
18 °C
4 L
1 L
55.88 cm
Nutrients 5
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
Down to Earth Root Growth Enhancer Mycorrhizal Fungi 0.013 mll
Marine Magic Seaweed Concentrate 3.906 mll
They are filling out the tent nicely & waiting for the mothers to finish to be moved to the bigger closet. Some are still recovering from light burn from the intensity & distance of the light in the previous week.
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Week 10. Vegetation
3 years ago
48.26 cm
18 hrs
22 °C
6.6
Weak
1082 PPM
59 %
23 °C
19 °C
4 L
1 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 5
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
Down to Earth Root Growth Enhancer Mycorrhizal Fungi 0.013 mll
Marine Magic Seaweed Concentrate 3.906 mll
They are over growing the tent, waiting for the mothers to finish to get moved to the larger closet so they have more room to breath & move with more airflow. The few that were light burned are good to go now just a little lighter in color still, they're growing out healthy green new growth.
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Week 11. Vegetation
3 years ago
53.34 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
6.6
Weak
1082 PPM
56 %
23 °C
21 °C
4 L
2 L
35.56 cm
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
They just keep getting taller & taller. They need to be moved to the bigger closet but some slow mothers are hogging it - so the babies must wait. Hopefully by this weekend they should have a bigger room.
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Week 12. Vegetation
3 years ago
60.96 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
6.8
Weak
395 PPM
56 %
23 °C
21 °C
4 L
2 L
30.48 cm
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
They are getting too tall & overcrowded! I need their mothers in the bigger closet to hurry up & finish so these girls can have more breathing room. The few that were light burned due to light intensity are also back to normal growth, I'm keeping the light at only 60% brightness because that light is a little too powerful.
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Week 13. Vegetation
3 years ago
76.2 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
6.6
Weak
395 PPM
65 %
23 °C
19 °C
4 L
2 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
Yay! Finally they get space in the bigger grow room, been waiting for weeks. The few mother's that were still flowering were able to fit into the tent. Many of the seedlings were ready for transplant so I made room for them in the clone closet as well.
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Week 14. Vegetation
3 years ago
81.28 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
6.6
Weak
395 PPM
61 %
23 °C
19 °C
4 L
1 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
I tried to move a couple plants over to the smaller tent to get a little more air circulation in there because I had only a passive air intake. With this many plants in this space I didn't think they're getting quite enough fresh air. But upon moving them over to the tent the light even at the highest position slightly started light bleaching the tops of a few plants. So I then moved them back to this bigger grow space and bought an intake fan. The Zkittlez are fighting me the whole way, I don't know if she likes to be cloned or not. Only the Zkittlez often seem to look a little sad even with everything dialed in for them.
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Week 15. Vegetation
3 years ago
60.96 cm
15 hrs
24 °C
6.6
Weak
395 PPM
50 %
23 °C
13 °C
4 L
1 L
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
I'm sorry I completely forgot to take this week's pictures 😔🌱. Sorry it's the only one I have, just a quick crappy pic I took to send to my cousin. They're outside currently to get free sunlight & to choose which ones to be sprayed with colloidal silver. I did top them all to keep them short enough to bring them back indoors & put into flower. I figured since I messed up & didn't log anything the previous week I'd share my garden helper & what I'm using to start my vegetables in this year... Eggshells & TP rolls 🤣 it's working great so far.
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Week 16. Flowering
3 years ago
93.98 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.6
Normal
395 PPM
50 %
23 °C
21 °C
4 L
1 L
38.1 cm
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
I flipped them to flower this week, finally. They are way behind schedule because I didn't have enough space to keep them on their own 12/12 light schedule so they had to stay on 18/6 along with the other plants in the same grow space. They've gotten much bigger than I wanted them to due to that. But I'm hoping if I do the female forced pollen process correctly that'll hopefully mean more seeds to share 😁. I've been spraying the chosen males with colloidal silver for 3 days now. I take them outside to spray them & then let them fully dry before bringing them back in with the girls. Just a safety measure incase I mess up the forced female pollen process I'll still have good & untainted flower to use from the girls.
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Week 17. Flowering
3 years ago
93.98 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.6
Normal
395 PPM
50 %
23 °C
21 °C
4 L
1 L
38.1 cm
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
These were half of my little fem seed experiment. These feel like they are taking foreverrrrrrrr. They are growing nicely despite me not giving them too much attention or nutes. I have some both indoors & outdoors.
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Week 18. Flowering
3 years ago
93.98 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.6
Normal
395 PPM
50 %
23 °C
21 °C
4 L
1 L
38.1 cm
Nutrients 1
Dirty Fish Water: pH 6.32, PPM 658, 85⁰F 999.997 mll
Still chugging along even though I've neglected them a little. A fun little side experiment, I learned a lot. At least I'll have flower from 6 more girls, not a complete waste.
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Week 18. Harvest
3 years ago
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These wound up just becoming compost for the garden next year. I was using colloidal silver to force pollen, 3 weeks in I found it that my CS shelf life was expired so it wasn't strong enough to grow male parts. I purchased a CS making kit so I'll be doing another feminized seed grow sometime in the future.
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These were grown to make feminized seeds so there will be no bud reports. Sadly the colloidal silver was past it's shelf life so it didn't form male parts, these wound up being composted.
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homerjgangia
homerjgangiacommentedweek 03 years ago
Good luck with your grow mate!💪💪
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@homerjgangia, thanks!
Ketamine
Ketaminecommentedweek 73 years ago
Nice looking plants Cheetah !! You can totally STEER in COCO my friend. Without all the fancy eqiupment I would just water small amounts more often ...good luck friend!
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Ketamine, 💚 Impressive & beautiful setup! Jealous.😁 I'm very happy for you & glad you enjoy growing.
Ketamine
Ketaminecommented3 years ago
@cheetah844, I just updated my diary I put a small video in it. Let me know what ya think.
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Ketamine, I'll definitely check them out. Very intriguing!
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Sour_D
Sour_Dcommentedweek 23 years ago
Best wishes. Just curious how you are planning to force the one plant to become male?
Sour_D
Sour_Dcommented3 years ago
@cheetah844, thanks for the info!
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Sour_D,hmm I've replied to this question several times but it doesn't seem to post. In case it does I use concentrated colloidal silver
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Sour_D, Concentrated colloidal silver. Two separate rooms one for forcing female pollen & the other room for the girls growing the seed filled flowers
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LastOpus
LastOpuscommentedweek 103 years ago
You have some beautiful grows going, really interested in breeding once I have some experience. I have 2 tents now but I have a lot of seeds to grow before I get to the stuff you are doing. I will be keeping an eye on these :)
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@LastOpus, cool thanks I appreciate it. To bountiful harvests 🍻🤣
SensimillaP
SensimillaPcommentedweek 33 years ago
Looking good 💪
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@SensimillaP, thank you
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhcommentedweek 03 years ago
I love aero/DWC cloners. So simple. I made my own - similar to this.
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Ezzjaybruh, that's AWESOME!
Secretflower
Secretflowercommentedweek 123 years ago
Nice forest 👏🌿🤘
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Secretflower, hahaha🤣 Thanks!
Cyrusdavirus
Cyrusdaviruscommentedweek 103 years ago
That is a tent full of green 😁🌱
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Cyrusdavirus, thanks - they are in need of transferring to the bigger grow area
Kitties_and_Colas
Kitties_and_Colascommentedweek 73 years ago
Smokey is beautiful!! 😻So are your plants!! ❤️🌱
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Kitties_and_Colas, 😻aww he says thank you & so do I
love_2_grow
love_2_growcommentedweek 03 years ago
Best of luck with your grow, buddy! 🌱🌱🌱
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@love_2_grow, thanks!
Kynareth
Kynarethcommentedweek 03 years ago
nice plants mate
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Kynareth, thanks!
McManus
McManuscommentedweek 103 years ago
Wish you all the best lucky growing😍
Blabina
Blabinacommentedweek 133 years ago
Sosososo green
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Blabina, thank you 💚
HAPPYWEEDS
HAPPYWEEDScommentedweek 133 years ago
Big and strong babes! Well done friend (=
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@HappyWeeds, yes, thank you. They are too big actually - I need the weather to warm up to get them outside 🌞 they're going to stretch into the light
Rangaku
Rangakucommentedweek 133 years ago
Really nice plants and that egg shell trick is really cool , I love seeing weed roaming free in the field lol but for real they look so natural just hanging out back by the pool with the cat .
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Rangaku, hahaha me too! Nature is beautiful. I just got to thinking 🤔... hey I grind up egg shells to put in the garden & they breakdown pretty quick why not try starting veggies in there before I move to canna. After googling it there are many people that use a variety of starter pots. That's where I got the TP rolls idea from
Cyrusdavirus
Cyrusdaviruscommentedweek 143 years ago
That's a great looking group 🌲🌲🌲🍻
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Cyrusdavirus, thanks! It's pretty just seeing a full closet of green 💚
PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUcommentedweek 183 years ago
They turned into beautiful girls 🔥😃💪 keep it going
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@PremiumBudsEU, thanks🙏👍💚
PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUcommentedweek 163 years ago
Good luck with your grow buddy
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@PremiumBudsEU, thanks you too!
Drgreen13
Drgreen13commentedweek 153 years ago
Looking healthy.
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Drgreen13, thanks 🙏
Cyrusdavirus
Cyrusdaviruscommentedweek 163 years ago
You always have such pretty green plants
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Cyrusdavirus, I bet they're just beautiful 🌲 I just wish I could figure out the strength of my concentrated fish poo water. Still working on how much to give them. I guess it'll be a trial & error...See at what point they get deficiencies or burns. I have about 50 Cichilids, so allot of 🐠💩
Cyrusdavirus
Cyrusdaviruscommented3 years ago
@cheetah844, Fish shit is definitely good stuff, I have a buddy that has a big pond in his front yard and he uses the water on his plants and grows some beauties 😉 happy growing buddy
cheetah844
cheetah844commented3 years ago
@Cyrusdavirus, thank you. I owe the dirty aquarium water a big thank you for my healthy green plants.
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