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Laxguy420 Laxguy420
2 years ago
some accidental HST out of LST that lead to a stem break :-( Otherwise pretty happy with progress but not sure if I can amp up my nutrients to enhance more growth
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Laxguy420
Laxguy420started grow question 2 years ago
I am currently running low level nutrients and want to know if I can amp up any specific N or K or both right now in veg and push the plants. What can I change my nutrients/feeding schedule to in order to give the girls a boost?
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 2 years ago
Hey there Laxguy, the truth is you can't push the plants via nutrients, only via lights and based on VPD. VPD is the relationship between temperature and humidity. Even though 65% feels quite high, you can actually go even higher at this stage in growth. Try to increase your humidity as much as possible and you will notice pretty big changes. Also try to avoid HST like topping, it doesnt change the yield and it does slow down the plant . Your lights you can lower almost 15-20 cm also to get more intensity to the plants. If you combine all these things you will get the growth rate you're looking for i'm sure. Hope this helps ! ๐Ÿš€
Laxguy420
Laxguy420started grow question 2 years ago
First time grower and looking to max yield and potency. I have started to introduce low levels of P but curious how often and how strong you Gurus think is right when it comes to feeding nutes and types of nutes
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
If she's flowering, you need to CUT the nitrogen, not increase it! The flowering stage does not need/does not LIKE a lot of nitrogen! With autoflowers, you need to start bloom nutes when the plants go into pre-flower... but they needed nutes earlier than that as well.... the tough thing (ONE of the tough things) about autoflowers is they don't like any nutes whatsoever for at least the first week or two and then you need to start them cautiously at about 1/4 strength... but you're way past that now. Scheduling nutes is easy - follow the water/feed/water/feed routine and that's it... but make certain the pot is completely dry before giving them anything... I would also say, looking at the coloring, that you've got some issues with the PH.... have you checked the PH of your runoff? If not, start there... it should be between 6.0 and 6.5 with 6.3 being the "sweet spot" - that will allow the plants to absorb any nutrient or micronutrient it needs... I only grow autoflowers so take a look at any of my diaries if you want... And good luck!
Laxguy420
Laxguy420started grow question 2 years ago
Hey friends! Getting a few weeks into flower and I have them into a solid feeding regimen and have introduced black strap molasses with ph water in between nute feeds. What can I do to keep pushing bud chunking based on your best estimate for weeks left until harvest?
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GanjaReaper
GanjaReaperanswered grow question 2 years ago
Hey Laxguy420, What do you mean by bud chunking? Getting them bigger and compact? If so, 1. Get rid of lower brances from the plant, thoose branches will never produce good buds, 2 Remove some lower nudes from all of your branches, these nodes will produce smaller buds. 3. Remove (fan)leaves below that does not get any sunlight, 4. Raise your PH from 5,9 to 6.3-6.4 slowly, nutrients that are needed for flowering have a better uptake. if you do these things, more enegry will go to the upper branches which results in bigger and compacter buds. goodluck growing :)
Laxguy420
Laxguy420started grow question 2 years ago
Time to chop? Lookin for my experts gurus to peak in on my ladies and give me the gut call on chop time. Calendar travel approaching and want to nail this first grow!
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Chow_13
Chow_13answered grow question 2 years ago
Nope not even close, Breeder says 49-63 days and your on week 6 of flower so 42 days at the end of your week. Get a jewelers loupe and start looking at the trichomes on the buds( not leaves ). When you look at them your looing at the ball on top. If its Clear = Low THC Cloudy = High THC Amber = Degrading THC. ***or damaged Harvest window starts when you have 5% clear, 90% cloudy and 5% amber and ends somewhere around 0% clear, 60% cloudy and 40 % amber Most shoot for between 10-20% amber. 40 is extremely late
Laxguy420
Laxguy420started grow question 2 years ago
Got some tips in last questions that are related to PPFD - What is optimal PPFD and light distance to max production? I think I am way off (at 8 inch 2200 avg PPFD) after reading more from comments. Know I've got few weeks left from my gurus, and want to maximize this first grow.
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 2 years ago
It is relative to a few other factors -- so there is no "1" answer to this. One of the biggest factors is atmospheric CO2. this will be the bottleneck wihtout controlling it yourself. Hours of use is obviously important too... then you need to know how many umol/s your light produces... 1) what is your umol/s produced by the equipment, in total if more than one. 2) what is the area of coverage? convert to meters-squared. Looks like a 4x4 or 3x3 so 16/10.762 = about 1.5 m^2 or 9/10.762= .84 m^2 3) how many hours of use? 18 hours in diary We must convert your umol/s to PPFD in order to properly use the DLI chart. I'm not familiar with these samsun 2835 diodes. based on specs on amazon listing it is the LM281b+ pro... if not this is all wrong.. but that's the only one that makes sense given the 2.7umol/J efficacy. Good news is they don't seem to be over-driven. 300w / 1100some diodes is around .25watts per diode, so should be near samsung spec sheet values. However, the fact they are running at .25w/diode doesn't make sense... these very well may be the shittier LM281A+ which would drop your efficacy to 1.9umol/J and a drastically different umol/s output. 2.7 * 300 = 810 umol/s 1.9 * 300 = 570 umol/s Based on price of unit and brand, i'm very skeptical it's a true 2.7umol/J light... email manufacturer and the should tell you the exact diode it is... lm/w will be proportional... 213lm/w is roughly the 2.7umol/J.... the "1.9" i used is proportional to that using the LM281A+ diodes that are supposed to run at 0.25w/diode, as your light does. This inconsistency is a red flag that they have lied on their spec sheet (not samsung... their spec sheet is "god") I'm going to do best-case scenario and you can repeat same math with any other case. 1) 810 umol/s produced by the light 2) 1.5 m^2 garden 3) 18 hours of use. 810 / 1.5 = 540 PPFD (if 3x3, it is 810 / .84= 964 PPFD) --- Distance from canopy should be dictated by most even coverage and a little common sense... With a QB, 18-22" is probably a good range to stick to... can use a cheap lux meter to see how even the coverage is -- lux is proportional... 50% less lux under same light is 50% less umol/s. (lus can only be used per exact same light.. same CCT, same ratios of different diodes same everything proportionally speaking) Referencing DLI chart -- It says we want 600 ppfd over 18 hour to reach 38.9 DLI. So, you are up near the ceiling for atmospheric co2 in a 4x4 and WAY over it in a 3x3 (roughly 60 DLI would eventually kill most plants, lol). IMHO, in your context i'd use hous of light to further dial in.. if you want to give ore don't move light closer... keep it at optimal distance from canopy for best coverage of enterity of garden. Instead, simply add an hour or take away an hour based on plant's behaviour. try adding 1 hour. This brings DLI to 41. This needs time to show the full effect... so within 5-7 days you can make a determination if it is a positive or negative effect. light burns, excessive wilting at end of day, stunting of growth, bleaching of buds.... these are all symptoms of TOO MUCH LIGHT!! LOL They don't necessarily happen overnight.. the plant may not show how tired it is until a few days or more of 19/5. So, use dimming knob and hours of use to affect DLI. DLI is a more apples to apples undertanding of what is going on... regardless of size of garden or hours of light. For any small adjustment, i'd prefer to use hours of use or small adjustment of distance to canopy of light than a dimming knob -- more umol/s bouncing off walls hitting lower areas is good even if slightly wasteful with watts.. negligible difference in most contexts. So, again these are ballpark values... Temperature and RH will have an impact.. actual atmospheric CO2 may vary in a house... not so much outside. In the end you hve to observe plant and make sure it is happy. it's behaviour will dictate any fine tuning. Obviously, if the diodes are not the b+ pro version, the numbers turn out differently. Looking at 380 PPFD in a 4x4 and 680PPFD in a 3x3. This is great for a 3x3, but a bit underpowerd for a 4x4. TBH, this last bit is way more likely given price-point of the equipment. a sub 2.5-ish umol/J is virtually guaranteed... i highly suspect the listed 2.7umol/J is total bullshit, but "1.9" is too low for this price-point, too... so there is a lot of info given that doesn't make sense in their spec sheet. Big red flags... you'll need to email them for specific info and extrapolate from the samsung spec sheets with correct info for a more accurate guesstimate of umol/s of photons produced) Now, no worries... efficacy doesn't change quality of output (a lower dli but still greater than "21" will produce a bit less yield yet still of similar quality if you gave more light)... you simply pay a bit more in watts to achieve same DLI with a lower efficacy. If you are in a 4x4, i'd use more than 1 BP3000. in a 3x3, it's probably fine (if truly 800umol/s produced)... how the plant reacts will quickly tell you which umol/s estimate is correct. if in a 3x3 they'd probably be showing some light damage symptos by now. in a 4x4, they'd probably just be a bit light on yield compared to what you "could" do with more light. if on low end an in a 4x4, use the other lights to boost DLI. "380umol/s over 18 hours" is down near minimum you need to properly grow a plant. you will definitely see a boost to yield with more light, ceteris paribus. You can probably give a tad under 2x more light in this worst-case scenario.
Laxguy420
Laxguy420started grow question 2 years ago
Chop it? Coming into final couple weeks and looking for tips on finishing with quality. Best light, feed and flush schedule to finish strong?
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
I would say you're still not close to harvest here... pistils are still mostly white and your leaves haven't started to turn color. Best thing to do is to get yourself a loupe or a microscope so you can get "up close and personal" with the trichomes to see what state they're in - and make a decision as to what kind of effect you want to achieve... if the trichs are clear, you aren't ready at all... if they're milky and you harvest, the effects will be more cerebral... if there is a small percentage of amber showing, you'll get both cerebral and body relaxation... if they're predominantly amber, you'll get couch lock (and the THC will be degrading). Hang on... keep your water/nute/water/nute schedule ... a lot of folks don't do a hard flush at the end - there are purists who will tell you if you don't flush you'll get a harsh smoke but... If you're concerned about a harsh smoke, give nothing but water for the final week, that will allow the nutes to "flush" out of the plant. Last minute tricks? Yeah, I don't believe there ARE any... just be prepared for your trim jailtime! Know whether you're going to wet trim or dry trim... you want a nice, long dry time - keep them in the dark at about 60-degrees with 60% humidity and a fan that is gently moving the air around them (not AT them)... Good luck and enjoy!
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homerjgangia
homerjgangiaweek 0
Good luck with your grow mate!๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช
Laxguy420
Laxguy420
@homerjgangia, do me a solid and take a peek at the ladies? Trying to get expert eye opinion on weeks of flowering left on the 3 ladies..
Laxguy420
Laxguy420
@homerjgangia, thx "homie" appreciate it! Looks like you're a cagey vet that I may need some pro tips form down the line!! Super stoked about this first grow and want to make sure I treat my girls right ;-)
Kynareth
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good job with that mate
Laxguy420
Laxguy420
@Kynareth, first step is the hardest, right? LOL Appreciate the support, thank you!!!!
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmweek 3
Hey there friend. Congratulations on getting into growing cannabis! I think you are gonna really like it here at growdiaries. looking at your diary, Would you be alright with me offering some pointers? So cannabis plants LOVE heat and humidity. It is the buds that hate it. In veg we want to take advantage of this fact to help our plants grow along much quicker and more vigorously. In veg we can look for temps of 79-84 MAX with lights on & no more than 9 degrees less with lights off. If we allow for too much temperature swing between lights on and lights off while the plant is still growing vertically up to day 20 of flower, We will cause the plant to stretch ALOT which we do not want. So in veg & early flower, Keeping our temperature gaps nice and close between lights on and off is key. Utilizing humidity in our rooms during veg will also help out a lot with more rapid growth but we must introduce it properly. In our rooms we have our temperature and humidity set-points, But when we combine those 2 it forms a third set-point which is the most important & that is called VPD, Vapor pressure deficit. I strongly recommend every new grower or old grower who has not learned it yet, To study and understand it & implement it into your room, Logging your numbers daily. https://cerescann.com/importance-of-measuring-vpd/ For soil, We generally want to go for a PH of 6.1. This website does a GREAT job of illustrating it with a nice graph & very good detailed explanation for soil. https://autoflowerseedshop.com/cannabis-ph-chart-guide/ As we briefly touched on before, During veg & early flower we want our temperature gap's nice and tight to avoid stretch. Why exactly our plants stretch in response to this is a genetic trigger being activated by the environmental stress essentially telling the plant the end of the season is closer than it really is. In veg & early flower the plant is still in its first stage of development which is to grow up wide and tall so when it produces seed, It can cast them out nicely. Remember, Whether we are growing our plants for seed or bud their genetic responses do not change as they gh sidedo not know any different. Once the plant has finished that first stage of growth by weeks 4-6 of flower with most strains, It is by day 20 of flower. Autoflowers you have to watch for it, But once the plant has finished this goal its new mission is to focus 100% on producing nice big flower clusters & to get very sticky so it can attract pollen to it successfully. So once that vertical growth is finished, We actually now want to begin to expose our plants to larger temperature swings between lights on and lights off. This will help activate that genetic response and allow us to draw out the most potential from the strain utilizing the plants genetic triggers to environmental stresses at the right times. We can also take this a step further with doing light deprivation in the last 2 weeks using less light to simulate cloud cover. Very cold feed temps on the last flush is very good too. If you do not have them already, Get yourself a good PAR meter & thermal laser temp gun to monitor your plant top temperatures & optimize how much light your plants are getting. We are currently in the middle of producing a very comprehensive tutorial series for everybody to learn from & understand how to grow the highest level craft cannabis all on their own. If this interests you please check out our youtube and subscribe. The first 2 episodes are out the next one is coming in a few days. If you should ever have any questions or need any help, Please feel free to follow my profile and shoot me a DM. I will gladly help you with the pull down & make sure you get the best quality harvest possible as it is the most important step of the entire process. Happy growing friend!
Laxguy420
Laxguy420
@LegacyMarketFarm, what up homie? Take a look at my ladies? Week 10 into 11. Could use your expert eyes ๐Ÿ‘€
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarm
@Laxguy420, Drop your PH to 5.9 the more acidic we are with PH the more phosphorus and potassium are available to the plants, We don't want to do any drastic changes but just minute adjustment to the lower side of perfect PH really helps in our bud production. Also once you are at the end of week 3, Begin doing the 10 degree temp swings between lights on and lights off. 10 degrees less with lights off will begin triggering those genetic responses we want to manipulate more out of.
Laxguy420
Laxguy420
@LegacyMarketFarm, thx homie! I'm gettin' jumpy they're lookin so fine! lol Any adjustments you'd suggest or just keep moving forward?
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love_2_grow
love_2_growweek 0
Happy Growing, Buddy! ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ
Laxguy420
Laxguy420
@love_2_grow, thx mate! Excited to give this a try after many years of sampling everyone else's flower. I'm sure I will need help along the way and find this site pretty amazing as a first timer. thanks again and I am sure I'll be asking for help down the line from the ones like you who have been down the road many times before..๐Ÿ™
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 4
Hey there, hope i answered your question, anything else you need just let me know ๐Ÿ‘Š
PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUweek 5
Good luck with your grow Happy flowering buddy ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Ž