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masterofsmeagol masterofsmeagol
2 years ago
Week begins 8/12 LAST FEED 2 gallons 8/12 AFTER A RAINING NIGHT. 8/13 I've found what appears to be septoria on a couple plants. Looks like the weather will be OK tonight so I can apply organocide or something similar before dark. I've seen random pillar damage so this will be a two-for. I also should move the middle plant back and utilize my space more. Ph seems on point around 7.3. Higher in some places of the soil. I've noticed what looks like root issues on my blueberry. Winds were horrible yesterday and this plant doesnt hace a vertical trellis for support. Stem was pretty wobbly for a while but the plant seems to be growing fine. Either that or a jpn beetle munched the top of a bud. That's probably what happened. It was in the low 50's this morning. That's a 40 degree temperature swing in just a few days. This grow season has been the most challenging I've faced. Of course it had to happen when personal, family, and health concerns rear their head. Oh well. I can only do my best. 8/14 Went over at 5am to apply organocide to treat WPM or septoria as well as insecticide for pillars. I got there and one of my healthiest plants had been turning a little lime green now it was drooped over just like the larger GDP. This one is a 9lb kush though and they were doing good. Now it looks like it's dead over night. Maybe it's that liquid kool bloom. The soil seemed dry so I watered the plants. It MIGHT have picked ok a little. I'll have to check tonight. If not something is going on at night or in the rootzone and I really don't know what the fuck is going on. I will post updates and check later tonight. Damn. This has been a real challenging year. 8/15 That plant might be overwatered or not be draining correctly. At least I was able to get underneath it and the ground was dry. It was also hard packed dirt so elevating the bag may help. I'm going to wait a few days and see if things improve. This really sucks. I'm getting that defeated feeling. I need to get out of it though as I'm starting to see flower begin. The blueberry is probably the farthest along. I need to remember to take pictures of the newly developing flowers. Granted I've had numerous medical and other issues that have taken me off my game but losing two plants in one year is pretty shitty. I was able to fix things with COVID last year or the year before so I hope I can at least save this 9lb kush plant. If I lose this plant too it will be a substantial amount of cannabis lost. I need to rearrange my cage as well to make use of the extra space. Maybe I could've overwatered that plant that had been in the rain for a long time. I need to get my water routine down pat instead of doing the "lift the pot" method I have been doing. I went to several different commercial growers and got a bunch of crazy answers. Only time will tell. Last night I finished the organocide application on all the other plants except for the two babies and the drooped 9lb kush. Don't want to stress it further. I'll see how it goes. 8/16 Despite the soil drying out the newest disaster (my 9lb kush) is much worse with chlorosis killing leaves. Stalks and branches seem good. Soil smells musty and a little wetter than the rest. It was roofed to the ground slightly. NO water underneath. I stuck my hand in the bag from a bunch of angles. It's like the same thing that happened with the other one. I added to my surveillance. I also smell bleech and I hace an idea this might not be my doing at all. I can't be detailed but I'll find out one way or another. UPDATE. Went back over after the dentist and plants were dry as a fucking bone and droopy. I mixed up five gallons of phed water and watered everything. Even the 9lb kush that is pretty much dead. The soil was dry though. Everyone is saying overwater but I really doubt that. We had some massive rainstorms bur still. I need to review a game cam I have because unfortunately my cams went on the frits for a couple days (and the dogs went wild during that time around midnight) couple nights in a row. I fucking smell bleech. I'm a good dude and don't really have any enemies but we'll see what the game cam pulls up. 8/17 Of course we are getting a shit ton of rain. I watered yestetday because everything was dry as a bone I watched yesterday as my blueberry was almost horizontal due to the wind. I added several supports to every branch and a few more up the main stalk. That may be what has been happening. The wind blowing so hard it separates the stalk from the roots. My problems started after I took my windbreaker tarp down. I put it back up for this storm. Or maybe it's just root rot. I dont fucking know. I cut all the dead stuff off the 9lb kush thats pretty mucb dead. Its holding on though. I probably shouldnt have watered that but it seemed bone dry. Maybe further down was wet. I dont know. Extra cams are up. I didn't smell that chemical bleachy smell today so it's probably in my head. I have better peace of mind with the night cams up though.and the dogs though. I've had a visitor this year but he left very quickly. 8/18 We got a shit ton of rain last night. No damage though. I spent what time I had in the garden working on the 9lb kush that looked like it was dieing. I'm not giving up on this one so easy. It seems to want to hold on. Despite the severely overwatered medium (due to this storm) I cam see new growth that looks healthy. The branches also seem stronger. I'm cautiously optimistic. The other one straight up died. So I might be able to salvage this. I'll go over later today and check on it. I debated putting it inside for the storm bur I figured I'd let the rain leech out anything in the medium in case it's locked out or something. At least I've got a couple real healthy ones this year. That NYCSA is amazing. That's a strain I'll probably grow again. Resilient as all all. Vigorous and doesn't seem impacted by things like WPM or other fungal ok infections or diseases like some other strains. I got a great recommendation from my buddy to use pots all the same size. It makes things easier watering. I just used what I had this year. I had bigger pots so I wanted to fill them. That tarp being up I think greatly helped with the wind. It's down now so things cam dry out. Still raining bit not yard and no wind. I think that may have played a large role in killing the 7ft GDP. Wind ripping the stalk away from the roots. Or it could've been a million other things. I'll never know. I do know that I have a better mindset, a great set of resources and I'm learning something new every year. If I can br8ng this plant back to life I'm going to be very proud of myself.....and her. Oh and I'm going to buy new tiger bloom. I'll start beasty bloom (hesitant as it has caused lockout in the past) as it goes better with my other nutes than the liquid kool bloom. Plus I started getting portables around tge time I used the liquid kool bloom. That being said, after two weeks I can see buds where there weren't before so I don't know. Next year I'm using seeds and I'm doing things different. I'm STRONGLY considering rapacaps idea about adding a removable roof for flower. The more I think about it tge better it sounds. That and putting wheels on pallets (buddy suggestion) and I could attach my supports directly to the pallet. I've got a lot of work to do that's for sure. Plants look healthy but I needvto him them again with organocide to fight any fungal stuff or pillars that might be hiding.
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masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
This is more a "website specific" ? Fone has no storage and won't allow me to take pictures. Is there a way to upload photos directly to the grow diary app ,without using the memory of phone. Like on FB when you can just take a fresh picture? Just trying to make it till its fixed
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 3 years ago
Don't know, man... but I do know you can upload a whole ton of photos to a diary so just go try it! Nothing ventured, nothing gained... good luck!
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
How much pH down can I add to water to safely lower the pH of my soil? It's h frog and I've only watered a couple times. They were rootbound when got in 1g and I transplant to 3g. Ph is like 7.5-.8.5 with a soil gauge. Any other ideas? Thanks folks.
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Chow_13
Chow_13answered grow question 3 years ago
You never want to adjust out of range. As others have said your plants look good so no need to get it in range by flushing with PH water. Continue as normal, But make sure your water is in the range of 6.0-7.0. Never go out of that range even when adjusting.
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 2 years ago
How do you deal with ear wigs? They are in the grow bag itself. Raked fingers through top and 6 popped out. They already spreading diseases. Dealt with them before but not very well. Someone with experience please help. Also any tips for treating septoria would be appreciated
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masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolanswered grow question 2 years ago
Bugs definitely spread disease. Leaf hoppers specifically caring many diseases. This grow is destroyed because of fusarium oxysporum. I don't want people getting misinformation.
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 2 years ago
Can someone please look over this week and last week of my diary? I've lost two massive plants in the span of a couple days time. One may have been rootbound (in 50 gals) and this is in a 20gallon. Roots did smell a little musty. Should I try a peroxide flush? Any other ideas?
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
Damn... I don't know what to say except that I'm growing here in Maine myself and it HAS been a bitch of a season! And I chose THIS year to do my first-ever outdoor grow... It sure sounds to me like root rot - but that wouldn't make any sense if the ground underneath them was dry! I know you want to learn - and maybe someone else will be able to point you in a logical direction - but you've asked the commercial grower and I'll echo what he said: shit happens... and 1 (now 2) plants in 4 years... you shouldn't be ashamed!! The humidity has been grotesque, the heat, the bugs, the fungus, the wind, the everything... I'd take this opportunity to, as you said, to spread your grow out a little bit to get better air flow through the rest of your grow. One thing popped into my head as I was reading what the commercial grower said to you... I've just recently read a rather crazy article about how we're planting trees (bear with me) the wrong way... that we encourage them to become rootbound... that we should instead of digging a nice round hole, dig a square hole (sounds daffy to me) and KEEP THE BOTTOM OF THE HOLE SLANTED, planting the tree at the top of the little hill so the roots are encouraged to grow DOWN, not AROUND... So all of that to say, if these were clones, maybe they DID get rootbound in their circular pots and needed more encouragement to grow DOWN... like bottom watering at the beginning? Just a thought.... (and most of that thought was a little weird!)... Good luck, man... I think we here in Maine, like in so many other parts of the world, are going to have to contend with conditions we've never had to contend with before... but onward and upward... Good luck.....
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 2 years ago
Anybody have experience with stem rot? Fusarium or pythiym among other things? I've lost 4 already and this is MY medication and the meds for my cancer ridden glaucomic wife. I need to do the best I can. I used p jelly on stalk could that be it. What do I do?
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
Yikes! I've never dealt with this myself nor do I know of anyone who HAS ... but JUST today I was reading several articles on fungus and that name kept popping up.... here are some links if you haven't tried to find the answer elsewhere: This guy on youtube has a LOT of fairly good vids on cannabis - this is his on fusarium... www.youtube.com/watch If you don't want to hear him drone on, this is a good article: https://www.lahuertagrowshop.com/blog/en/how-to-prevent-and-get-rid-of-fusarium-in-cannabis/ The youtube guy has THIS on Pythium: www.youtube.com/watch And a really good article on it: https://www.growopportunity.ca/pythium-a-fungal-devastation-to-avoid/ GOOD LUCK - omg good luck!
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 2 years ago
Hey folks. I'm looking to do indoor this winter. I'd like to get a tent with everything kinda ready to go. I would like a nice light ad well. Would I be better off buying a complete tent or buying each item separately. Looking to fit a few plants. Lookin 4 opinions
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsanswered grow question 2 years ago
A couple of 2x4's some screws and tacks, and some black and white plastic from the hydroponic store and you can build any size tent you like. You can use a cheap pond liner from home depot for the floor, then you can water to runoff all you like and just vacuum it up with a wet vac.
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Rap_a_cap
Rap_a_capcommentedweek 122 years ago
Hey Smeagol, you need a transparent roof. Since you have a ready-made metal structure, to build a roof with trasparent PVC will be easy and cheap and It will drastically reduce the problems related to excessive soil moisture. To fight earwigs consider a systemic pyrethroid, if stigmas aren't yet apperead this will be absolutely safe. It's the time to think to build a greenhouse for her
Rap_a_cap
Rap_a_capcommented2 years ago
@masterofsmeagol, at this stage your plants are compromised and a cheapy plastic top will protects them from morning dew but don't expect miracles. In a dryer climate like mine a soft plastic top is enough and in case of hail I promptly add a plastic net layer. The plastic cover is fixed while the net is removable. I've used PE ultra clear plastic tablecloths (5 dollars). For the next year think to build a top with rigid plastic like polycarbonate (here 5 sq. meters cost 250 bucks). You have to control the amount of water that reaches the ground trying to keep the environment dry even if it always rains. Planting into the ground requires anyway a drainage layer, 1.30 ft minimum is obligatory. In plain soil plants can withstand everything
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommented2 years ago
@Rap_a_cap, you are right this year. However all the prior years were fine? My commercial friend said that putting a top on "just so buds don't get wet" is pointless. They will be covered in morning dew everyday and if the roof collapses it can crush everything. He said the hails devastating though. He uses pallet bags to cover his. I still think I can get MOST of the rain off the plant and soil with a top. If not maybe bags? May cage is just wire. The sides are all open.
Rap_a_cap
Rap_a_capcommented2 years ago
@masterofsmeagol, you're always welcome. It's clear at this point that all issues of yours are caused by too wet environment. Do you want to win the battle with Maine's climate? Change the grow site, spend time to properly prepare the soil in winter, plant your next girls directly into the ground and never defoliated the plants.
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Northern_Ent
Northern_Entcommentedweek 222 years ago
A genuine DJ Short Blueberry is on my to-grow list, and it looks like it does well outdoors. Cheers.
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommented2 years ago
@Northern_Ent, its good 'old reliable and ALL many people in my area grow due to its resilience and aptitude for this climate. I recommend you give it a shot! Thanks for stopping by!
Northern_Ent
Northern_Entcommentedweek 202 years ago
Careful with the ladders there Gollum (or are you the ring? It’s been a while since I read those books). Seriously, ladders are surprisingly high on lists of injuries. Good luck with the rest of your grow.
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommented2 years ago
@Northern_Ent, haha I messaged you. My wife is smeagol lol. She woke up one morning and thought she looked bad and said "I look like a smeagol!" She didn't know smeagol was his name. It was just a funny moment and it stuck. So I guess it's an inside joke with us.
GrowingGrannie
GrowingGranniecommentedweek 182 years ago
Sigh.... onward and upward, MASTERofSMEAGOL!!!!!!!
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommented2 years ago
@GrowingGrannie, Yes ma'am! My turn for mother nature to take her cut. I should've practiced crop rotation anyway......I learned a lot though! I may end up not getting TOTALLY skunked but we'll see. Thanks for stopping by!
GrowingGrannie
GrowingGranniecommentedweek 182 years ago
Oh this is so painful to see - but you're right to keep the diary going - so OTHERS can see and so you, yourself can look back to see if you missed something and when. I'm SO sorry... Maine's weather has NOT been good to outdoor crops at all this year.... we can only hope NEXT year is better - and turn to our indoor grows... at least THERE, we don't have to contend with Mother Nature...
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommented2 years ago
@GrowingGrannie, yes it sure is a sorry sight. Yeah the weather where i am has been crazy. I havent seen anything like it. Oh well though. Thats ok. We cant hit a grandslam every time we are up to bat. I changed the diary name so it might aid others in finding it. I should've taken the last two down today. I was busy though. I have a feeling tomorrow may be the end of the last two infected. Well.....that I know are infected. Blueberry MAAAY be but it isn't showing the same signs. It has some issues for sure but not the stem cancer or staining or the wilt. Yet. Only time will tell. No sigms of on the cuttings i took either. Ill put some pictures of those uo as well. Those look healthy. Thanks for stopping by @GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannie
GrowingGranniecommentedweek 162 years ago
Hey - I can't imagine the physical labor you're pouring into this... my heart goes out! And the rain!! THE RAIN!!! but good for applying a soil drench, I suppose! My fingers are crossed that the Plant Doctor works for you... Glad you found it! Wondering if you're going to look for some of that other stuff... the trachsalmerfjadjgfh? LOL! I'll keep checking back!
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommented2 years ago
@GrowingGrannie, Thank you ma'am. No one said it was easy. Especially in our neck of the woods.
GrowingGrannie
GrowingGranniecommentedweek 162 years ago
Wow... you really DID do some pruning, didn't you! I honestly thought you were going to lose her - but look at her now! Smashing! That is REAL commitment!
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommented2 years ago
@GrowingGrannie, yes I did! Unfortunately another night of rain. I've done what I can. It's up to her now. Thank you for the conpliment!
Rap_a_cap
Rap_a_capcommentedweek 142 years ago
I'm sorry for Ur girl, the shit happens. Seems to be a massive systemic botrytis attack. Stems are grey.
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommented2 years ago
@Rap_a_cap, thanks man. It happened very fast but I haven't lost a plant since I came back four years ago so it was coming. It's my turn for mother nature to take her cut I guess.
GreenGlowes
GreenGlowescommentedweek 142 years ago
Good luck with your gro! 😎
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommented2 years ago
@@GreenGlowes, thanks I can certainly use it this year
JahJahLight
JahJahLightcommentedweek 132 years ago
Jah bless you harvest, nice job! 👽
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommented2 years ago
@JahJahLight, thank you growmie
Rap_a_cap
Rap_a_capcommentedweek 82 years ago
Hey Smeagol, why do you use pots instead of plain soil? Local laws? Your choice? Stay safe Mate
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommented2 years ago
@Rap_a_cap, well it's a combination of a few different things. Mainly it's because I can't dig at this location. I'm hoping to change locations next year. I'd prefer to go in ground where the soil is better. However, using bags or pots allows me the ability to transport them inside a very large building (used to house heavy equipment) if it becomes necessary. It usually doesn't but it's nice to have the option. Even though by fall the bags are usually rooted right to the ground....Thanks for stopping by! Happy growing my friend!
Rap_a_cap
Rap_a_capcommentedweek 43 years ago
Nice setup, Mate. Your girls seem very happy, to me. Good luck
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@Rap_a_cap, Thank you my friend. Happy growing!
Dingle_Dangle
Dingle_Danglecommentedweek 13 years ago
#OUTDOORGANG Good luck 😉🌞
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@Dingle_Dangle, That's right! Good luck to you as well!
love_2_grow
love_2_growcommentedweek 13 years ago
Happy Growing, Buddy! 🌱🌱🌱
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@love_2_grow, Thanks man! You too!
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommentedweek 222 years ago
Hey, really nice diary. I was looking at your fox farm review..(about the salt) have you tried Green House Feeding mineral line, that mixed with their bioenhancer seems to be doing me ok. Still some tip burn, but putting that down to me. Some lovely results.. so lucky to have outdoors.
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommentedweek 222 years ago
Very nice grows. Good luck on the other one. Enjoy your harvests.
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolcommentedweek 92 years ago
Hey fellow growers. If any of you veteran outdoor growers wouldn't mind, take a look at my diary and leave some constructive criticism. It would be good to hear from other folks.