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Experimentgreen Experimentgreen
6 years ago
Week 4: This week she got a transplant into newer bigger pot. Since her roots hadn't fully expanded in the plastic cup I figured she's still needing some time in a medium pot before going into her finally spot. The light burn is still visible on the leaves, and probably won't go away, but the yellowing has passed and all new growth appears healthy. She's responding good to the new container and the sunshine. The weather has still been pretty cold, but she's handling it like a champ! The shaman is definitely proving to be one incredibly strong and resilient outdoor strain. Happy growing everyone!
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Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenstarted grow question 6 years ago
Hey all, so my pistils have had discolored and some dry/shriviled looking tips for a few weeks now. This seems a bit premature to me. You can notice in the 7th pic this week and several the weeks before. Has anyone experienced this, otherwise any possible ideas it could be?Thanks
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Leaves. Edges burnt
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HighTV
HighTVanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hia there @ExperimentGREEN! I looked at the pictures you mentioned and see those pistil tips. Now typically immediately the first think I think of when I see browning Pistil tips that early into flowering (several weeks ago) I immediately think that she has been pollinated and is about to start producing seeds. This would have been my go to answer 2-3 weeks ago because you are outdoors. However if you have not started to see a progression in the Browning and don't see any clear indications of seeds forming then clearly this is not the case 3 weeks later. The second things I go to are the most common things and that is a light burn or heat! You are outside and mention heats pushing 98F that's crazy hot for the plants and this can cause that twisting you see at the tips of the pistils. Unfortunately there isn't much you can do in that case unless you can move them to shade. Just be sure there are no seeds forming and really you should be just fine!! 😎 (Obviously this should go without saying but use the Trichomes to determine the harvest window not the Pistilis)
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenstarted grow question 6 years ago
Hey, So I've been battling low humidity nonstop. Does anyone have advice on how to give a plant extra moisture or trick it into thinking its more humid? Other than building a greenhouse.
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Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2answered grow question 6 years ago
You can erect a misting system, like they have on restaurant patios in the summer time. Put it on a timer, and have it go off for 5 minutes every hour or two. It's easier than standing in front of your plant all day with a spray bottle. Or you can water the area around the plant every morning. Or you can set up a soaker hose on a timer to go off every couple hours around the plant. As it warms up the evaporation will raise the humidity. 👅
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7th5ag3
7th5ag3week 19
I've had them turn when they are dry, water and next day back to normal. I'd be worried if they change color in the middle and not the tip.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@Experimentgreen, i'm digging the frost on those fan leaves - did somebody say potency ?? 😂
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@7th5ag3, you're so awesome for commenting thank you. I live in the hardcore desert, a typical hot season is like 10% humidity and hmm 85-103 F. Im sure my vpd is redzone so that might be the cause. I better stay up on my watering practices.
HighTV
HighTVweek 20
@Experimentgreen, 20 weeks and counting 😲 What a lovely diary honestly!
HighTV
HighTV
@CRiSPrGrow, haha yeah that's also true! Gas exchanges happen at the stomata not your thermometer lol
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@HighTV, @experimentgreen, a lot of the time when folks do vpd on here, i notice they take their grow room's temperature, but actually you do need a laser thermometer to measure the temperature of the leaves (often a few degrees colder than the room itself), yes, not as easy as it seems....
HighTV
HighTV
@Experimentgreen, @bulbi I think the VPD chart is fine by itself as long as you understand the variables at their core. Typically if you are off on one variable you far out of the green because they use variables that are already dependent on eachother - Like Temperature and Humidity. "Relative humidity (RH) is the ratio of the partial pressure of water vapor to the equilibrium vapor pressure of water at a given temperature. Relative humidity depends on temperature and the pressure of the system of interest." So the Chart to new people could imply to get into the green you need to raise your humidity by 10%. But it doesn't say that raising your RH 10% lowers the Air-pressure and in turn lowers the temperature. Long story short - it works to help the last 5%-10% of improvement but the reality is you struggle to meet VPD its not because of a single stat like the chart says- its due to all of the stats and changing one changes the others. (To be honest.. this is honestly probably more a personal vendetta lol but struggling for a good VPD has never been worth it to me )
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 16
Lookn good - let the flower show begin! Did DP provide any details to u on expected flowering time?
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Experimentgreen, which only begs the next question then - when’s end of warm season for you guys? I’m gonna assume ur in Cali because it sounds like the opposite of the minus temps climate hell we’re just starting into here 😤
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@TheBudWhisperer, so i messed up its shows 7-8 indoor and end of the warm season for outdoor.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Experimentgreen, I’d probably lean high side of 10 then. Like you said it’s outdoor. Really interesting strain to watch👌🤩. Good luck but I don’t think you’ll need it👍😉
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Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenweek 12
@Teamdirtbag2 i reopened her..but still badly behind. Maybe itll be complete next month lol
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2
@Experimentgreen, Yes it is especially when you explain every moment of the week. That's why I'm vague sometimes. If people really want to know they can ask.😂😂
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Teamdirtbag2, its hard keeping up several diaries at once...i seriously dont know how the hell you do it?
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2
@Experimentgreen, no worries. Take your time. Dont rush it. But I will congratulate you now. Nice job.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 28
I’m gonna day that I called this from the get-go and strike my own ego! Congrats on placing this month. Well deserved, this plant was awesome👌💪😎
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Experimentgreen, I agree for sure. That said, we should start seeing more as spring turns through May (at least up here of course). That’s gonna include mine and I’ll have a few plants going this year. Can’t freakn wait.👍😎
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@TheBudWhisperer, thank you so much. I was so proud of this plant that ill admit i was a little sad when i thought she had lost. 😕 it was the only outdoor to place in February...it's crazy how much more indoors there are than outdoor grows.
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2week 14
Wow!! The week's are just flying by. You are way better at this than you let off. Can we just fast forward???? 🤣😂😅 Lmao
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2
@Experimentgreen, of course I am .... 🤣🤣😂😂 always.... but I looked back and you are doing a great job. I probably wouldn't be able to do it. And especially that nice of a job. No.... no blank weeks. It needs to be seen, you did an amazing job. 😍
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Teamdirtbag2, lol you poking fun at me? Cause i manage to post weeks in a matter of day? Lol...am i suppose to be doing a bunch and bunch of blank weeks? 🤔 eh f it, i just want the diary seen.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 28
Congratulations!!!!!! Finally ... aloong time from seedling to harvest ... it was really a" roadtrip"... enjoy
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Mrs_Larimar, oh my, seriously a long journey. But worth it and fun.
growdoctordc
growdoctordcweek 22
Now that you’re flowering the low RH isn’t an issue. Maybe next season if it’s practical a frame and plastic? But that will add heat. No perfect answer. You did great, as expected! Enjoy
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@growdoctordc, Thanks doc, i appreciate you. Living in the deserts just something I'll have to cope with i guess....or move lol.
Athos
Athosweek 21
Aaarggh... outdoors, nooooo, bugs!!!
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@@Athos, God Save The Queen! The bugs have invaded! Call in the Spiders and the other natural predators! Go Go Go!
BudsZA
BudsZAweek 1
Great grow! I'm starting my shaman grow guide too. Hope to get similar results :)
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@BudsZA, thats awesome! Im so excited to see it. When i first started there werent any shamans, so i had no comparison to go off.
Ironlungs
Ironlungsweek 14
Hey you
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Ironlungs, hey back at ya! Hows everything going?
psyych
psyychweek 13
looking very well !
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@psyych, thanks this plant has been one tough bugger...i got very lucky when i picked this for one of my summer strains.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 15
Well she’s none the worse for wear! Lookn great dude!👍
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 24
Every time a visit this diary EG I get giddy for the outdoor growing season up here. This plant is straight gorgeous. And I couldn’t agree more regarding your thoughts on nutes. I’m trying to stick with one line (botanicare) best I can to truly dial in the avg. limits for feedings. Regardless of indoor or outdoor I want to know what’s the general max because I’d rather be battling a deficiency than a toxicity issue which would simply be harder for the plant to recover from. Great info, great grow! 😎
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Experimentgreen, and u and yours as well EG! Cheers!
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@TheBudWhisperer, yes please. I'm a reader so anytime someone can suggest something and i have a good chance of it being decent already because they've already read it, I'm all over it.✌️ Thanks my friend, hope you and your wife are having a good new year
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Experimentgreen, that’s cool I’ll prob. Check it out. Had a chat with someone on here about that as well - we tend to make it too complicated sometimes. Plant seed, add water smoke buds! It’s a living thing - to be healthy it requires moderation not excess! If u have an interest in the science behind it I read a good book recently called marijuana cultivation reconsidered by Read Spear. He makes a number of very enlightening observations which even debunk some commonly held beliefs. And thank you for the ear wig tip. They could easily be what was popping the occasional leaf hole last year and my wife hates em so we’ll be giving this a try I think👍. Cheers!
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Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2week 1
I cant believe it.....I cant ... I have really wanted to see this strain for years... it is about time... but I'm so confused... is this a brand new plant ??? Did you just germinate this girl ??? The secret's .... I cant take it.. I need to know.... wtf...1st week.... ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Please let me know................................................??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Teamdirtbag2, hey you, i saw someone else finally has a shaman diary up.
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2
@Experimentgreen, you will get more than 1 bud I'm sure of that. Yes we will see. I cant wait. Would she just start flowering...
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Teamdirtbag2, I'll keep doing the weeks until its caught up...hopefully It can manage to produce at least 1 bud...then we can see if it really is purple or not
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OutForReal
OutForRealweek 28
Hey you have impressed me with your yield ! Much love 😚
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Experimentgreen, tried indoor lst techniques on an outdoor myself and wasn’t all that impressed with the results. Almost like you’re growing against the grain and the plants growth should be dictated by the sun to max out its potential. Something to consider anyway...
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@OutForReal, im gonna have to get real creative with the garden this summer....knowing how much light is available now, I've gotta really rethink some things. Otherwise only plant strains that are good outdoors like the shaman. Maybe if i tie em down and treat them like an indoor that only gets overhead light?
OutForReal
OutForReal
@Experimentgreen, Ok so I'm twice more impressed sis 😃 mine did not received a lot of ☀️ too but I need at least 6 plant to yields like yours 👍
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 28
Looking great - this one is def. gonna be worth the wait EG👍👌🤙
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Experimentgreen, hee hee hee 😜 🤩🤩🤩. And that right there is why u can’t beat outdoor! Beautiful👌
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@TheBudWhisperer, it's about 12 ounces of buds and another like 2 gallon bags of trim and popcorn. Crazy for how much shade it got. We were at like hmm only maybe 4-6 hours of direct light most of the time, maybe less. There's this big ass tree that seriously has got to go.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Experimentgreen, my last outdoor was about the same size but in a 10gal. Pot and it was easily gonna push 8oz. +. If you’re in a 15 I gotta say at least 10oz. On a look????? Am I close? If I’m way short that would be awesome and you should consider opening up retail with that kinda supply! Lol
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 28
And you tested the trimbag=? pls tell me about it, i recieved mine to late for harvest, never tested at all
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Mrs_Larimar, hey lovely lady, i loaded a photo of the actual trimbag results. It's pretty well trimmed but had some large stems that didn't get removed. I think it works best on big buds and when the bag is pretty full...rather than a tiny load.✌️
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Mrs_Larimar, so i actually got mine as a tester from one of the people who work there which was very nice of them. It works well if you can have the plants pretty dry and don't mind doing a small finishing trim. It may or may not knock of trichromes in the process and be a little less sparkly.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 26
My understanding of trichomes is that it’s not entirely confirmed as to their actual purpose in nature. Probably due to the lack of study on the plant as a result of its questionable legality. A lot of what I’ve read though suggests that they may actually be a pest and predator deterrent. The stickiness they create can trap some insects like fly paper (obvious given some of the critters I’ve pulled out before). I’d imagine it’s also not the easiest plant for most herbivores to eat for this same reason. Like eating peanut butter that refuses to dilute in your mouth! Lol. Best I got on the subject so far anyway.😉. Plants looking awesome and u must be getting impatient!👍👌
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Experimentgreen, np and anytime! IMO - outdoor is where you gain the real experience. Think we all often forget that if you want to grow stellar weed you have to appreciate what it means to be a skilled gardener first😉. That lesson took more failed grow attempts for me than I care to admit! Lol!!!
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@TheBudWhisperer, You rock! That's exactly the answer i was aiming for. It's function as a defense mechanism. Given i do outdoor that's part of my battle, pest management. However my thoughts were that i rarely see any bugs willing to go navigate into my trichromes. I know some pests can manage in there, possibly the ones who move through the stems and such without being noticed with the eye to begin with. I just wanted to see if anyone ever thinks about how useful all the pieces of the puzzle are...beyond their function of getting one stoned or other medicinal aspects. 💚🌱💚 thanks for responding. 😊
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 19
Again to the problem with dry air,,, as long as the roots have it cool and shady and you give them enough water, i think the plants have no big problem. Are they into the ground or into pots? if they are into pots try to cool the roots https://www.growweedeasy.com/prevent-cannabis-heat-stress-outdoors maybe we can talk per PM... i had this year a very hot summer, i only looked at the thermoeter i di not look at the hydrometer. But i thik if its hot and dry it was similar
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Mrs_Larimar, definitely, I'll look at that page link and we'll have to talk shop and trade notes. 💚
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Mrs_Larimar, they're in 15 gallon smart pots but the roots are growing into the dirt below.☺️ Im sure all my plants will know is dry air...some will adjust to it and some maybe wont. I might need to research some desert strains rather than jungle strains.