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Water 90% RO with 10% well water 110PPM, PH 6.0-6.5, Autoflower, Fox Farm Ocean Forest, 20/4 schedule w/240LED 90% at 80CM, DLI 40. From my question that I asked on here, it looks like I have calcium deficiency.
Day 30: Watered both plants with about 4 liters of water per plant so I had about 10-15% runoff. First time adding nutrients so based on advice from the forum here, I added 1/4 strength of Big Bloom and Grow Big, water PPM was at 380. To help with the calcium deficiency, I used more well water to bring the PPM up to about 180PPM and for next watering I plan on using cal/mag. Since the plants are in pre-flowering, I'm thinking to add Tiger Bloom next time I feed them.
Day 33: Watered both plants with about 4 liters of water per plant so I had about 10-15% runoff. Added 3.75ml of Big Bloom, 2.5ml of Grow Big, 1.25ml of Tiger Bloom, and 1.25ml of CAL/MAG per 4 liters per plant with the PPM levels at 480. We'll see how they handle it and go from there, probably just go with plain water with no nutrients for the next watering, but we'll see in the next couple days how it works out.
Day 34: Looks like the calcium deficiency is showing more, but I hope it will not continue now that I started with CAL/MAG. I'm monitoring now to see how they handle the nutrients.
Based on week 5 of my grow, does it sound like I'm on track with nutrients? Any advice on LST or defoliation? The plants struggled since I planted them so I wary of stressing them out. The only thing I'm doing at this point is tucking the leaves so the bud sites get more light.
Hey. Well some easy Grow,Bloom, micro would do you good. And make it easy for yourself.
Biobizz and so on is good to keep it organic. Or if you want to keep it fully organic worm castings as a top dressing might do you good. You will need to get a cal/mag also. You have many options here. Biobizz calmag is good. Or cal powder from Green House Feeding + Epsom Salts will make a great choice for a calmag + sulphur.
As for defol.. you shouldn't do any defol until you are out of the pre flower stage. Bud sites don't need light until they are in the fattening/ripening stage. As your plant is still in a process of growth in pre flower, (so its the leafs that being energy to to your bud sites, (not light direct on them). So steer clear of defol until you are out of pre flower that's generally 2-3 weeks once you see stigma (pistils, white hairs that come from your grow)
If you need any more advice, feel free to DM during your grow.
Good luck
Day 38: Flowering is really starting to pick up now. Watering both plants with about 4 liters of water per plant with 10-15% runoff. Added nutrients at 1/4 strength, 3.75ml of Big Bloom, 2.5ml of Grow Big, 1.25ml of Tiger Bloom, and 1/2 strength of 2.5 ml CAL/MAG with the PPM levels at about 470 per watering. I adjusted the light to 240W LED light at 60% power with 45cm distance from the canopy.
As you can see the damage was already done by calcium deficiency but they keeping on with their growth and I'm still proud of the work I've done to get thus far. I think the Blueberry needs to be defoliated a bit but not sure if I should, don't want to introduce more stress. Based on the photos and information provided, I welcome constructive feedback. Thank you for following along. Happy growing everyone!
Day 41: Performed some light defoliation, mainly removed some of the bottom leaves that were affected by the calcium deficiencies. The Blackberry Kush has stretched more so light can make it to the buds sites. The Blueberry on the other hand is very bushy and I believe needs more defoliation, I'm going to hold off and see how she responds to this defoliation. I'm open to any advice. Thank you!
Here we go, week 7!
Day 44: I switched to Biobizz organic nutes and feeding them at the recommended strength of using the All Mix soil since it is pre-fertilzed. I've had a hard time get nutes right the entire grow I feel since I started with hot soil, lesson learned... I performed some light defoliation on both plants removing dead or damages leaves and some additional leaves to help air flow and bud light exposure, the Blueberry needed it the most... The Backberry Kush purple is really coming out on the flowers and leaves, very beautiful to look at. I'm learning more everyday. Happy Growing everyone!
Day 48: I watered and feed today, I increased my nutrients to match BioBizz nutrient schedule light mix soil guide. No defoliation, I'm trying not to introduce any extra stress so hopefully they will concentrate on bud growth. We'll see what happens in the following days...
Day 49: Post some photos to show the yellowing of the leaves, trying to get nutrient feeding schedule right. Any guidance/recommendations are most appreciated.
Week 8 - Here we go!
Day 50: I've increased the nutrients on the last watering to see if helps with the yellowing of the leaves. Week 8 started today and I haven't watered and feed yet, I water each plant with 4l of RO water about 2 times a week. I basically wait until the pots feel light and then I water, wondering if I'm not watering enough. I've really appreciate the advice that I've been getting on here. I'll post updates throughout the week.
Day 51: Started a new watering/feeding routine and will keep the diary updated with my new schedule. I owe this new routine to the great advice/guidance that I been given by @UnorthodoxDude, 🙏 Today I watered with nutrients and performed some light defoliation by removed dead/brown leaves and a few others to help with airflow, all on the Blueberry, the Blackberry Kush doesn't need it as much. The Blueberry is still actually stretching a bit and reached the same height of the Blackberry Kush.
Day 53: Watered each plant with 2l of plain PH water.
Day 54: No watering/feeding. I completed some LST on the Blueberry, basically tying down some of the branches so there is more space between the flowers, hopefully that will hep with the growth. You can really see the trichomes coming out on the Blueberry, check out the photos. I'm debating on removing a couple of large fan leaves on the Blackberry Kush that is completely blocking the flowers under them, not sure if I should or not as the main cola is really getting big and I don't want to interrupt the amazing growth. Happy Growing Everyone!
Day 55. Lowered the light to get 50 DLI at the top of the main cola with a 20/4 schedule., I'm getting between 30 to 45 on the lower flowering sites. I feed them today and I updated the amount of nutes I'm using. I love looking at the purple colors of the Blackberry Kush, beautiful sight to see, the photos don't do justice. The Blueberry has tons of flowering sites and is very compact, the smell is very earthy, and the flowers are starting to see some decent gains in bulking up. I'm excited!!
Week 9 - Here we go!
Day 57 - Watering with plain PHd water and removed some yellow leaves, mainly on Blueberry as she is unruly. Blueberry has tons of bud sites underneath the canopy which I'm sure it is taking energy away for the larger flowering sites that are getting more light. Performed some LST by tying the branches down and moving them farther away from each other when possible to help with light penetration. I will be performing some more defoliation, but since I'm new and don't have a lot of confidence I've been on the conservative side to hopefully not stunt growth. How much I would love to really perform some full bud based defoliation method on the Blueberry 😀 I'm still happy with the grow so far and I want to thank the community for helping me, I owe my progress to you! Thank you 🙏
Day 59 - Performed feeding and reduced the Bio-Grow to 3ml/L due to some leave tips turning brown a bit. I increased the PH to 6.4 and the next watering I'll increase to 6.5. I did notice that the Blackberry Kush has slowed down drinking water, the pot was heavier that usual and Blueberry is drinking as normal. It looks like the Blackberry Kush is maybe a couple weeks out from harvest. What you do you think based on the pictures?
Day 61 - I watered both plants with PHd water and performed a bit of LST on the Blueberry to increase airflow around certain flower sites, she is really starting to get frosty. The Blueberry is continuing to drink as normal, 2l every 48 hours and the Blackberry Kush has slowed down to probably 1 liter every 48 hours, not sure of the cause of the slow down. With the light schedule of 20/4 and with the distance of my light I'm getting around 50 DLI on the main cola and anywhere between 30-45 on the lower flower sites, I would like to increase it but I don't want to run the risk of burning the main cola. I'll be posting some more photos soon. I want to continue to thank the community for all the support and I want to give an extra thanks to @UnorthodoxDude for the constant guidance.
Day 62 - Today I just enjoyed their presence and rotated them so help with even flower light exposure. Happy Growing everyone!
Here we go! - Week 10
Day 65 - I will be watering the kids today 😀 and the last feeding I increased the CAL-MAG. The Blackberry Kush is maturing and the flowers are turning dark purple to almost black, a beautiful sight! I'm starting to wonder when I should start to flush. I'm going to see if I can post some loupe photos, but it is proving difficult, I'll see what I can do today. The Blueberry is really bulking up and getting frosty, from the looks it will be at least 3 more weeks or longer, we'll see. As always I want to thank the community for all the support, it has really helped me and I'm having fun getting to know all of you. Happy Growing everyone!
Day 66 - Just added some photos for fun. No watering or feeding today. The Blackberry Kush has really slowed down on water intake, not sure if that is an issue or not. Blueberry continues to have some yellowing of the leaves, I'm hoping the slight increase in CAL/MAG will help.
Day 68 - Watered and feed today. Since the Blackberry Kush hasn't been drinking as much I reduced the watering to about 1.8L and gave the Blueberry a 2.2L. The blueberry is drinking 1L a day, maybe a bit more. On the Blackberry Kush I'm thinking to start the flush next watering and potentially harvest towards the end of the week 11, it really depends on the trichomes, if they are around 20% amber then I know she is ready.
Day 70 - Watering only today. I'm still debating on how to handle the Blackberry Kush harvest time, she has stopped growing and the majority of the pistils have turned brown. I'm thinking to only give her water now and no nutes until harvest. What do you guys think? Another week before she is ready? I'm looking for a good balance of head and body effects, but with the focus on pain relief and stress I want to be sure I harvest at the best time for that medicinal quality. Since this will be my first harvest any tips would be greatly appreciated! The Blueberry is still bulking up and the main cola is really starting to look impressive. I haven't been able to resolve the yellowing of the leaves, it looks like it is mainly on the old growth now and the newer ones have remained green.
Welcome to Week 11!
Day 71 - Add some photos. I watered them yesterday with PH'd water and CAL/MAG, 1.25 ml/l as my water is soft, the PPPM was at 215. The Blackberry Kush has stopped all growth and at this point it seems it is just maturing and I'm waiting to start to see some amber trichomes. I checked this morning and I saw a few amber on a couple of the flower sites, but overall most trichomes are cloudy and milky with still some clear ones at the lower flower sites. Happy Growing to all!
Day 72 - Watered and fed the Blueberry and just plain PH'd water for the Blackberry Kush.
Day 74 - Watered both with plain PH'd water.
Day 75 - The Blueberry is maturing nicely, the trichomes are cloudy and the flowers are still putting on weight.
The Blackberry Kush trichomes are still cloudy with very little amber, to me it is strange that the trichomes are not changing yet with the plant looking so mature, as you can see the major fan leaves are completely yellow. To me she is ready for harvest but I don't want to make the mistake to harvest early as there are very little amber trichomes. I'm going to hold off until week 12 for harvest and see what happens.
Day 76 - Well it looks like the Blueberry is starting to get amber trichomes, that came on fast, practically overnight... She actually has more amber than the Blackberry Kush which I figured she would be ready before. Now I'm not sure as the Blackberry Kush has been very slow at maturing and with the purple flowers it makes it harder to see if the trichomes are amber, actually some the trichomes look purple, definitely beautiful to see. I'm going to water both plants with plain PH'd water today.
Happy Growing to all!
Hello Growing Community, Is the Blackberry Kush ready to harvest or should I wait until week 12? There are some random amber trichomes, but not at 20% yet, I'm looking for a relaxing effect. If so my plan would to let her sit in the dark for 1-2 days, then chop. Thank you!
Depends on what you want but if you want body relaxation you want to wait for more amber usually. Also, the 48 hours of darkness thing is a grower's myth, cannabis can only metabolize sugars into cannabinoids during photosynthesis. No light = no photosynthesis = no terp or thc production. Scientifically there is no proven benefit to 48 hours dark besides your tent maybe smelling more than before because they've been sitting in the dark for so long left alone lol.
Welcome to week 12!
Day 79 - We are in the home stretch. I feed them yesterday and probably will go with plain PH'd water the rest of the grow. I'm thinking by week 13 it will be time to harvest, but I will be looking for 20% amber trichomes before I make that decision. The blueberry is doing great, really maturing and the buds are getting denser and the smell is strong. The blackberry kush as you can see most all leaves have turned yellow except the lower internal branches still have some green. I would have harvested her already but there were very little amber trichomes so I've being patient and waiting.
Day 81 - Watered with plain PH'd water. More amber trichomes are coming out on the Blueberry top flowering sites and the Blackberry Kush the same. By the look of the plant you would think the Blackberry Kush ready for harvest but I'm monitoring the trichomes and waiting for more amber.
Day 84 - Watered with plain PH'd water.
See you on week 13!
Welcome to Week 13!
Day 88 - I watered the Blueberry with plain PH'd water, she is really maturing now and the flowers are getting denser, plus the smell is extremely pungent. I'm giving her a few a few days to dry out and get some more amber trichomes before harvest.
The Blackberry Kush I harvested yesterday and the entire plant is drying now in a small grow tent with the humidity of around 50% and temperature at 19C, I'm trying to get the humidity to around 60% to slow the drying process. I'll keep everyone updated on the harvest.
The color is black and the smell is amazing, very fruit like sweet! I want to say thank you to the grow community for helping me, it wouldn't have been a success without you!
Welcome to week 14! Now since the blackberry kush is harvested it's time to focus on the Blueberry! She is exteremely strong smelling right now and when you open the tent it almost makes your eyes water how strong it is, very pungent with a slight sweet smell. This week I've been flushing and you can tell by the yellow fan leaves, right now I'm letting the soil dry out and will harvest in the next few days. My plan is dry the entire plant if I can keep the buds separated enough to prevent mold, if not I will cut each branch and hang individually. I'll keep the diary updated as this week progresses. Happy growing to all!
I'm impressed! Beautiful plant with dense sticky buds and amazing smell, very relaxing and is an evening strain.
I want to say thank you to the community, I couldn't have done it without you!
Overall I was happy with the grow, no fault of the plant itself it started off rough but I was able to get a handle on the nutrient regime. What I did learn is not to use hot soil with autoflowers, but to go with a light mix of sorts and then feel out the plant with a good nutrient regime. Another lesson learned is using RO water, it is great to have pure water and then add the minerals as needed, but you really need to know what you are doing as I had CAL/MAG deficiencies because of it.
She produced some impressive buds that are drying now. The smell is extremely strong while drying, full of trichomes, sticky, very pungent with a slight fruit smell.
I decided on the dry trim to help slow down the drying process.
I ended up with 2.5 ounces of dry high quality bud, the airy buds I didn't weigh, but it probably would have been at least 3 ounces... Not bad 😄
Looking really nice friend. She has some girt. She gonna have some nice big buds if you keep this method going. Same i used on my last fems. And as you'll c they super dense. Going for the long colas this time. Look forward to seeing your auto turn out. You can lightly apply them techs for autos but has to be done early. But a very light defol of the major fan leafs just to allow more light to reach deeper into canopy. I use a lux meter from playstore and put it in the middle of my plant. And it shows me by moving a node by LST, leaf tucking or just removing that fan leaf it showed me how much for ppfd reaches deeper into canopy. It has light a yellow symbol. Lux meter. And it'll allow you to see which parts of your tent gets the best ppfd and it'll allow you to rotate your auto. This will simulate Sun moving just by simple rotating. Just little things I picked up tat really transformed my auto growing.
This time I'm trying something really really harsh by defol. They huge but I've no idea how they going to turn out yet. As your not meant to remove much during the pre flower stage for autos. Jst trying new things.
Hope you don't mind the few tips. Not telling you what to do. Just wish I'd of known all this much earlier on. Want to get this strain to test. Will follow with interest.
@UnorthadoxDude, I would love to buy a proper light meter, but they are not cheap. Thanks for the Photone app recommendation, I'll give it a try! The manufacture of my light recommends the light to be at 100% at 45CM from the canopy, but I get a reading of 1050 PPFD and from what I read I need to stay around 550PPFD so I lowered the intensity and distance from the canopy. Again, I appreciate the all the tips!
@MedicineMaker, @gottagrowsometime - regarding light meter - if you can get a proper one do, but in a pinch there is an app called Photone which is pretty decent indicator. I doubt that it is accurate enough for growing coral, but I reckon it's good enough for cannabis.
@gottagrowsometime, hey mate, I enjoyed your comments on this thread, I will come and have a look at your grows in a minute. I just wanted to say, regarding your experiments with major defoliation on autos. I have recently been experimenting with this myself, you can see my ongoing results. Have a look at day 53 for Karen - Kings Kush Auto - I did a MAJOR defoliation, you can then see the way the plant responded. I also recommend having a look at Nesia on day 27 and Misty on day 23.
Good luck on your grow buddy. Had a close look at your grow. On your lower leafs I think I can see your plant is starting to show she needs some NPK. As she's coming into Pre flower your gonna need a high bloom booster, as unless it's a promix soil. Or something designed for cannabis plants. Generally normal soil doesn't hold what an auto flower needs with its quick turn around it is much more demanding than norm plants or even during the veg of fems.
I'd look into getting a bloom booster soon. As your plants look like they're on the verge of flipping.
@gottagrowsometime, I have a PPM tester, but to be honest I don’t know what the PPM levels should be. I understand the concept that the higher the PPM means more minerals and compounds in the water mixture. What should be my PPM levels at each stage of growth? Last two times I watered the PPM tester read 380 and 470 respectfully. With 380 I was using ¼ dose of Big Bloom and Grow Big. Since my PPM was so low, I feed nutrients again this week with 1/4 dose, plus I added CAL/MAG and Tiger bloom. I checked out the link to Green House Feeding, I'll be sure to give them a try. Thanks!
@MedicineMaker, your more than welcome my friend.
So, the thing about you saying adding 1/4 and so on.. In reality pal. You'll need a ppm pen. As adding it just by eye. You will never know the true value of your ppm..
Their is a really good ppm tester on amazon it if you'd like the link. I use it.. the PH part isn't great on it. But I've had the same pen for testing ppm and it always gives the same ppm for me testing my tap.
But, by using 1/4 grow -1/2 bloom to 1L of water with both you should be okay.. id go 1-2 of biobloom or .5ml/1L of the bloom & 1/4 of grow, as I'm nearly sure you are meant to give them both right? Epsom salts will be also a good source of mag+sulphur.
WATERING & FEED INFO
Okay with soil. The general rule is you only need to feed once a week if you are using a few different nutrients and follow up with water feeds afterwards it'll allow the remaining nutrients to be washed up by water feeds and if needed you can add that extra feed as a cal/mag feed. But to play it safe to make sure you don't get any toxs. What ppl do, (well what I do when growing in soil) is to just make a much lower ppm and feed twice a week. Only with coco you would feed every day. One week of feeding everyday in soil during flowering and you'll burn the crap out of your girls.. they are much more sensitive during the flowering stage so less is more.
Anyways if you more help. Just mes me. And if idk ill pass you onto someone who will.
Yes, organic is much better. You should try Green House Feeding Bioline.. they are a bit expensive. But all you do is add 3-5g of grow powder to each L of substrate. And if you don't want to uppot when flowering starts all you have to do is add the biobloom to the top of the soil as a top dress and it'll go down into your plant and will last for 8 weeks. All you need to do is add the powder during veg and before or when it comes into pre flower and add water during the whole grow and the biobizz calmag will help keep the whole grow organic, they do a cal and you don't need mag as it has it in the powder so green House feeding sells a cal powder, (again its the more expensive side so, buobizz will work just as well) if you need a little more just add a little bit more (of grow or bloom powder during the process of the grow). I done it on my grow and my god I got the best bud quality I've ever tasted.. well from my side. Organic can give less in the way of yields as you generally need soil... and soil grows give less yields unless when the plant flips you uppot it and you should get explosive growth in pre flower. There is so much more to growing and tbh I'm learning and reading everyday on topics.. but just my applying the basics you should get nice strong bud, regardless of the yields.
No need to keep asking Q.. As it'll put of sponsorship. As the Q stay stuck to your profile pal. Some don't care but id still be using my SF 1000 and probably the same batch of nutrients I got when I started last Yr. And you'll get boat loads of sponsors for seeds.
@gottagrowsometime, Thank you for your comment and the answer to my questions that I posted. I also appreciate the advice regarding NPK and bloom booster. I started adding 1/4 strength nutrients yesterday, specifically Fox Farm Big Bloom and Grow Big. Next time I water I'll add 1/4 strength Tiger Bloom for the bloom booster and some CAL/MAG, hopefully that will help. I was thinking to increasing to 1/2 strength at some point, I'm observing how they liked the 1/4 strength and then go from there. I'll keep adding photos. Right now I'm watering once every 3 days, not sure if I should add nutrients every watering or every other? I completely agree growing 100% organic and when I bought Fox Farm nutes I thought they were organic, but now I know that only Big Bloom is. I read Biobizz is a great product so I'll look into it for next time. Thank you!
I think your pH might be a bit low. In soil I believe you want to be a bit higher, try going up to 6.5ish. Could be the reason for some of your yellowing.
https://www.growweedeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/soil-ph-chart-marijuana.jpg
Don't be afraid to defoliate but don't go too hard if your plants are having some issues. You can see my diaries around end of week 7 for how hard I go. Strawberry Gorilla and Wedding Glue are good examples. Looking nice either way👍🙂
@nerdz, @UnorthadoxDude, I'm learning tons so thanks for bring all these subjects up here, this is all good information. As @UnorthadoxDude mentioned I'm am changing up things with nutrients and feeding schedule, so minimizing too many changes at the same time I'll remain with 6.2 PH. I appreciate all the support!
@nerdz, it would be fine to raise it to 6.5 - I am not saying you're incorrect at all, it's just that at the moment the calcium deficiency has been corrected, and calcium is the first nutrient to lock out when the PH drops too low in soil - so the fact that it is not locked out suggests to me it is fine. The reason I am interjecting in this way, hopefully politely, is that there's been quite a lot of change for these plants in the last week or two, some deficiencies are in the process of being corrected - and I just think adding further complication or changes right now might be counterproductive while we're trying to correct the N deficiency.
Hey buddy, looking at the wide photos 3 4 and 5... I see nitrogen deficiency - the yellowing of the older leaves. I would up your Bio-Grow to 4ml/l. It's kinda hard to overnute with organic nutes because you're not feeding the plant but the microbiota in the soil - unless you use enzymes to break it down which isn't necessary in soil. The full guide for BioBizz products is here: https://www.biobizz.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Nutrient-Schedule-EN_2021-1.pdf From their range I use Bloom, Grow, Top Max, and Acti Vera (and BioBizz PH down). I also add organic seaweed with iron, Canna CalMag, and up until I ran out I was adding a little bit of silicon (Rhino Skin). You got CalMag covered, BioHeaven is pricey but good for the energy. Top Max should cover most of your micronutes - bloom covers your phosphorous and potassium... but the only thing in your nutes that has any nitrogen is the BioGrow and you're giving them 1m/l at week 7. I am was and am giving them 4m/l at the same point. It's up to you but I really think you need to go to at least 3ml/l biogrow. I know they say 1m/l with all mix but your plants havfe been in all mix since the begnning, and the nutrients you've been feeding have been at best inconsistent. So the soil may well be depleted by now. Either way the plants show they need more nitrogen in my opinion, and so if this were my grow I would increase the bio-grow.
@UnorthadoxDude, Thank you for advice regarding defoliation and when to remove dead or dying leaves. This makes sense to me and I love the detailed information, when defoliating I usually cut closer to the branch. The blueberry I believe needs a more air flow so I will be defoliating a bit and remove any of the brown or dying leaves. I've always thought of the leaves as being more of a solar cells, but like you mentioned they are available to provide water and energy in times of need, so interesting. This information is amazing! Regarding sterilized snippers/hands I can definitely see the benefit, it is a living organism and gets infections just like us. I've been loving how much I'm learning as this will help me with my general gardening skills as well. Thank you!
@MedicineMaker, Oh yeah one more thing, removing dead/dying leaves causes minimal stress to a plant - and if you want to have some reassurance about defoliation at week 8 of an autoflower, take a look at Karen on day 53 😳😁😆.
@MedicineMaker, Hey I replied on week 8, but I forgot to reply to the bit about the removing yellowing leaves. The answer is no, and yes. So right now, leave the ones that are yellow. However once any leaves start going brown and dying off, cut them off. Use either sterile snippers, or your finger and thumbnail with clean hands. Leave at least an inch of leaf stalk on the plant. The reason why I am suggesting this is because this way the plant can continue to leech nutrients out of the yellowing leaves that it is draining, if you cut them off at this point all you are doing is robbing the plant of what nutrients are left in the leaf. Most people consider leaves to be like solar cells which in a way they are, however I prefer to think of leaves as temporary storage because it helps in understanding how a plant uses them. Plants use leaves like this in times of need and they always grow way more foliage than they really need. It's a bit like saving up for a rainy day, or in this case, a dry week. However, once they start going brown and crisping up, almost all of the usable stuff has been taken by the plant, and all the dead/dying leaf will do now is attract detritivores, including fungi and bacteria - so it is for this reason best to remove it.
Hey bud, figured we could move the convo to the current week to keep it easy to follow. So what beautiful photos this week! Wow! That purple on the berry is utterly stunning! So a couple of things, I am glad you stared feeding more I think that is the right move. I wonder if, instead of 4l every 3-4 days, maybe you could change it up a bit and do every other day 2l or 1.5l? The other thing is, for soil grows it is fairly customary to alternate fertigation with ph adjusted water only. I think, give the stage of the deficiency, give them a week fertigating every water, and then maybe drop to alternate feed/water every other day?
So 8 days looks like: Day 1: 1l-2l nutes mix. Day 2: Nothing. Day 3: PH water 1-2l. Day 4: Nothing. Day 5: 1l-2l nutes mix. Day 6: Nothing. Day 7: PH water 1-2l. Day 8 Nothing.
Something along those lines? Just throwing some ideas at you. Lastly, these ladies are not really "late" into flowering to be honest. They have at least a full 4 weeks yet I would guess-timate.
@UnorthadoxDude, Basically RO water is pure water with a PPM less than 30, so from what I read online they recommend adding CAL/MAG when using RO or add about 10%-15% mineral/spring water. Usually that will bring the PPM up to around 100-150.
I completely understand about giving advice about about something you don't have experience with. Well I'm glad you found interest in my grow and I've really been enjoying all the references you made to your grows, nothing like learning from real examples. 😀 Thank you for this. 🙏
@MedicineMaker, "Since I'm using RO water do you think I should" Honestly I have no idea about the properties of reverse osmosis water, so without Googling it I can't answer for soil, I don't know. I prefer to only give advice based on my own experience really rather than "hearsay advice" I guess.
One of the reasons I like your grows and am enjoying following them so closely is because it keeps happening that something from one of my current grows happens to be helpful to this grow. I can not only give you advice from my limited experience, I can also direct you to the documentary evidence to support my claims, hah! I love it. 😁 Like when there is something and I can say "Oh, go check out Misty on day 23" or whatever I can point you (or others) to specific examples of what I am talking about.
@UnorthadoxDude, Sorry for the delayed response to your very helpful comments here. Thank you for the information about the age of the plant and about the dry/wet cycle in regards to watering.
Very good point about the oxygen for the roots, I read that fabric pots can help with that so that is why I chose them. Tonight I started our feeding/watering schedule and I used 2l nutes mix per plant, then I plan to give them nothing tomorrow, then PH'd water the next, then repeat... Since I'm using RO water do you think I should I use CAL/MAG due to the water is basically mineral free?
I removed some of the Blueberry's dying and dried leaves as you mentioned and I removed a few other leaves that were restricting the air flow to hopefully help against any mold and increase light to the bud sites. To be honest I wanted to remove more, but didn't want to cause too much stress.
I will be reviewing your grows more in detail to see what you mean about how different situations can affect when it is time to harvest. I understand what your are saying because both of my plants have been stressed for multiple reasons and it is going to increase the amount of time for the plant to mature.
I can't say this enough, but I do appreciate the guidance through my grow! Thank you my friend.
Wow mate what a difference in a few days! Especially the Blueberry! They have responded to the increased nutrition really well! I am seeing a little nute burn on the leaf tips, keep an eye on that. Maybe 4m/l from 1m/l was too big a jump. Maybe drop it to 3? The interveinal chlorosis looks to be progressing though... I am not sure if it is iron or sulphur deficiency, maybe need a second opinion. I wonder if the addition of some seaweed extract might be useful. I am "thinking out loud" here as I am not sure.
@UnorthadoxDude, Thank you for the explanation, it is very helpful. Sounds good about moving the PH up, I'll plan on going with 6.4/6.5 then. I check the PH value after I add nutrients and typically I have a PH of around 5.8 and then I use PH up to get the value of 6.2 which next time will be 6.4/6.5. I noticed the nutrients lower my water PH value. Thank you again!
@MedicineMaker, The yellowing between the veins on the lower leaves (not the nitrogen deficient level, the one above) and higher. Especially on Blueberry; they're yellowy in between (or less green). It can be many things, iron, sulphur, most commonly magnesium, but you are adding CalMag and you're in soil so I kind of doubt it is that unless your PH is off. Which, assuming it's still 6.2 is in the right zone. They've had almost a week on the new schedule and are responding, perhaps now is the time to move the PH up to 6.4/6.5? Monitor that for a few days and see how things go. If there is any further progression on the colouring we will know that it's likely deficiency.
@UnorthadoxDude, Thank you for stopping by and checking out the progress. Yes! The watering/feeding schedule you suggested has made a huge difference which I owe to you! 🙏 I did feed with the 3 ml and then the last feeding I increased to 4ml, I'll drop to 3ml since we are seeing some nute burn on the tips, good call on that, thanks! What makes you think it could be an iron or sulphur deficiency? Again, I appreciate your guidance as I've been learning so much!
@LegacyMarketFarm, Thanks my friend! I didn't expect such a beautiful color on the Blackberry Kush, she is a pleasure to look at. The Blueberry is behind and was supposed to finish before the Blackberry. I'm curious to see how the Blueberry turns out as she is starting to bulk up now, the stems are purple but no purple on the leaves and flowers that I can see yet.
@Tropicannibis_Todd, Thank you! At first I didn't think the Blackberry Kush would survive but she proved me wrong. It's amazing to see her grow everyday. Happy Growing to you my friend!
Hey mate, welcome to the site, don't worry about starting a diary late, I did exactly the same I was 26 weeks into my grow before I started the diary haha (it was a weird grow). It makes your first "full" diary in your second grow all the more rewarding an experience.
I look forward to following your progress. :) From what I can see those older leaves look to have been nutrient shocked to me... perhaps the soil was too hot for them when they were younger. The good news is that on day 30 the look really a lot better, pretty healthy plants, apart from the lower leaves which also show calcium def. I expect these girls to have a big week here. All the best.
@UnorthadoxDude, Thank you for the welcome message! I'm learning everyday with this grow especially with the help on here and I'm already looking forward to the next one, with a full diary :-) I appreciate you following my grow. I think you are exactly right about the nutrient shock, I didn't realize that FFOF soil was hot and I needed to dilute it. I read that mixing in perlite would have helped. Both plants really seem to struggle from the beginning and just now seem to be doing a bit better. I'm going to add CAL/MAG next watering to hopefully help with calcium deficiency. Thank you!
@Tropicannibis_Todd, The smell hits you between the eyes, nothing like a good blueberry muffin 😉 Again, looking forward to many more grows together my friend! 👈 🙏
@MedicineMaker, Absolutely my friend , it can be a great community 👍 And you bet my friend 😉 that Blueberry gotta have that muffin smell to it , can almost smell from here 😀 thats gonna be tasty 😋
@Tropicannibis_Todd, Thank you my friend, I appreciate you stopping by throughout this grow! 🙏 My first experience in this growing community and you have been a big inspiration! 🙏 I look forward to many more grows together and hope we can share some of our fruits of our labor someday 👈
@Tropicannibis_Todd, Of course! That is what community is all about 🙏 My confidence levels are growing by the day thanks to this community! 🙏 Can't wait to hear about the Monster Mash harvest and smoke report 😀 Happy Growing!
@MedicineMaker, appreciate the kind words my friend 👈 it's been a minute hasn't it , there's nothing like growing ones own weedz , your doing awsome my friend 😀 👈 the more time spent doing it the more confident you will become 😀 Happy Growing
@Tropicannibis_Todd, Thanks! That means a lot from such a seasoned grower as yourself. I really enjoyed your interview on here and the reasoning behind you starting to grow your own cannabis. I started growing cannabis for the same beliefs as you. It is a healing plant if taken serious and finally the bigger community is recognizing it's benefits. I also found it interesting the part of you having to be creative with growing cannabis without the grow products readily available now. You were blessed to have such a great mentor such as Franco Loja, his influence in our community will always be felt. 🙏
@Sour_D, Hey man! Thank you! 🙏 Yeah debating right now weather to harvest both the blackberry and the blueberry this week, I have amber trichomes on most of the top flower sites, but little amber on the lower flower sites. Your grows are looking awesome by the way! 👍
@NegotiatedBubble, Thank you! I've been watching your grows as well and I'm very impressed by your detailed reports and your technical abilities on building out your grow setup! 👏 What I'm learning with this grow is to be patient and I have lots of lessons learned, we see how it all turns out 😀
I appreciate you stopping by! 🙏
MedicineMaker
