Runtz x Layer Cake grow diary (journal) week16 by Yebis42

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gottagrowsometimecommentedweek 92 years ago

Very nice grow buddy. Just a lil tip. The purpose of them, is to increase your flowering time to 13hrs.30m 10.20 off 10m of far red after lights out. Other uses for Far Red. Is to create, "trick your plant into thinking its covered by shade", and promotes stretch, especially during pre flower your plant is going to stretch a lot. Hap to a few of my grows before I fully understood it. You can use it during veg and later stages of flo but, not with lights on during pre flower pal. Have a read of this. https://www.growlightsource.com/flower-initiator-far-red-phyto-dep-faster-flowers/ Increase your flowering time to 13.5 hrs for pre flower. You can push tat to 14hrs for fattening and when it gets to ripening, switch it back to a 12-12. But still using the IR to change from pfr to pr. "Photochrome", (the time it takes a plant to sleep is normally 2hrs the far reds put them to sleep in 5 mins, tis y you have an extra 1.5-2hrs flowering. Increase your DLI by a lot. And your flip time, (you know how some fems can take 2wks to show pistils, this speeds up the time she's in limbo waiting for pre flower by at least 50% Can I ask. Whats your purpose of using far reds? Any tips??

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gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago

@Yebis42,BTW. I see they took a big stretch. Very interesting though. You do learn either way. Az its a tool now if you've really tight inters or wanna control canopy. You just gotta dose the plants that need IR with it. Wow, that's great buddy. 1000ppfd is the sweet spot in any grow. Hopefully I'll have my own FC4800 by next wk. Just waiting to hear from my Rep at mars about my upgrade. Will be using it in my 3x3 for flowering with co2 kit. I got some big ass girls when I used Far Red during Pre Flower. They dom indicas and flipped at 30-40 cm and they all hit nearly 90cm when pre was over. Lol.. really leggy. Ah don't mind that GM bollox. Means jack pal. Just for sponsors. I'm still learning every grow I try and do new things/methods and so far, they've worked out well. Maybe not all the time productive wise, but, in the end. I still gain something I hadn't before. A deeper insight into growing. So I'm all for Expermi more power to you

Yebis42commented2 years ago

@gottagrowsometime, Thanks Growmie! Really appreciate the advice! I really haven´t seen so much of ir/deepRed experiments and I really want to learn more about them, because as you said I also did see the growth when I first put them on. The nodes really grew long the first two weeks until I changed the timing, at the end I just run them full 12hrs. But as YOU are a Grandmaster I will switch the lightning to 13 with 15min off and on before mainlights bc I use mechanic switches.. I Like to TryThings.. 8) The purpose of the Brookes was to increase ppfd in the corners cos the hydro didn´t really do it, but now I'm getting around 1000 per corner, in the middle it´s around 2000 but i´m trying to get the MAIN buds towards it. The purpose of the far reds is exactly as you adviced. As I said the last batch had them for 1 month and I did see an increase in bud density and quality. For tips at this point.......... I think the timing is the KEY to this. Will have to figure it out. Really appreciate the comment, will keep you up to date. And just keep on experimenting!

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love_2_growcommentedweek 82 years ago

Happy Growing, Buddy! 🌱🌱🌱

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603growercommentedweek 16a year ago

Looking good my dude! How was the stretch on the runts layer cake?

Yebis42commenteda year ago

@603grower, about 10cm per node. 60-70cm total

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