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samadhi samadhi
6 years ago
Going into week four and two of three plants are exhibiting prolific growth of pistils. Only Gorilla Glue, who is technically one day younger than the others, has yet to show pistils as of day 22. She does, however, show plenty of preflowers so I have no doubt she is not far behind. All three show expedient growth at primary and secondary growth sites with Blackberry growing 5cm of vertical growth in the previous 24h period! Nutrient and watering schedule remains the same for this week. As soon as the vertical growth begins to slow I will begin the Canna PK13/14, likely during week five. As specified during last week's update, I have decided to forgo full-on LST during this run but I have done a bit of leaf tucking to permit the side branches to receive better lighting. For now, the name of the game is to maintain a good buffer in my medium that will sustain growth for this last week or two of proper vegetative growth. If you're reading this, I'd love to hear your thoughts πŸ˜ƒ UPDATES: β€’ 2018/09/30 - Day 24 β—‹ LST regimen started for Blackberry due to explosive vertical growth not matched by the other two strains. β—‹ Blackberry shoot apical meristem bent at double 90 to achieve same height as LSD-25. β—‹ Side branches wrapped with a loose circle of plant-ties to pull side growth in toward the center and up to match height of shoot apical meristem. β—‹ Height: BB = 35.5cm | GG = 21cm | LSD-25= 26.5cm (Measured at noon rather than the usual 22:00) β€’ 2018/10/01 - Day 25 β—‹ Blackberry has taken well to LST without visible stress or damage. All LST targeted side growth and shoot apical meristem are of equal height. β—‹ LSD-25 same approximate height as Blackberry. β—‹ Gorilla Glue exhibits very short dense bushy phenotype this run. She is several centimeters shorter than the other two. I have rearranged the placement of the pots within the tent to, hopefully, coax the GG into stretching a bit. β—‹ Gorilla Glue still does not exhibit pistils. I see no major cause for concern until the end of this coming weekend. No visible pollen sack under magnification. β—‹ Now that one plant has been trained others may be as well if necessity warrants. β—‹ Height: BB = 32cm (Trained) | GG = 23cm | LSD-25= 32cm
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samadhi
samadhistarted grow question 5 years ago
Gorilla Glue is now 60 days old and shows only a handful of preflowers. Some sources say only time will get her to harvest and adjusting photoperiod will not help with auto genetics. Should I move her to 12/12 to induce flowering or is that pointless? Any advice is appreciated.
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Athosanswered grow question 5 years ago
That happens sometimes with auto strains, they just will not autoflower. Switch it to 12/12 and it will flower right away, although you will need some serious training to keep that monster in check.
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Apprenticegrow420
Apprenticegrow420week 5
wow you're doing something right! they look really good man I wish I knew how to do that confidentiality to produce a better result. also nice paras explaining everything, it really helps get to know your plants and how things are really going and it seems very well !
Apprenticegrow420
Apprenticegrow420
no worries mate :) check out my diaries if you have time but I don't quite as much information as you do... I should probably write more down lol
samadhi
samadhi
@Apprenticegrow420, Thanks, mate! It's been a learning process with some bumps in the road for sure. I'm glad you appreciate the detail as, sometimes, I feel I might include too much information ;) I appreciate the kind words and encouragement, Also, many thanks for following along!
samadhi
samadhiweek 15
@Fast_Buds, Love to hear your thoughts on this unusual GG lady of mine. :)
samadhi
samadhi
@Fast_Buds, Thanks for the response and no worries. The flip to 12/12 got her back on track. See updates for week 16 & 17. Not much longer for her to go now!
Fast_Buds
Fast_Buds
@samadhi, Hey man! Sorry for the delay in response. It looks like the wonderful growers on this sit have helped you out a lot with advise, hehe. I do agree with the majority of them, that you may need to switch to a 12/12 cycle. Though I'm curious to see where you're at now with her since it's been a few days since your last update.
OneDude
OneDudeweek 9
Hi! A personal experience report for the next time: If/when i fail to lst, i will do a more aggressive training called supercropping (there is plenty of material in the web). To do training late in the plant formation, the best way is to do a heavy watering (just before overwatering) to make the stems more flexible and/or spray the stems with water. When the stems are more soacked with water, they became more "gummy" like and easier to bend without braking them. There is a good chance that you will brake the inner layer (the white one) and this will make a bulge that, strange but true, will increment the yield. The point is that you will trick the plant into thinking she lost the branch and she wants to replace the lost part, thus releasing more growth hormones. In flowering stage it will make more buds ;) If you brake the outer layer of the stem, it will be kind of bad, risking for disease and counter act the positive effect. You can go as far as to put the stem horizontal. In the case, twisting the leaf 90Β° to make them horizontal as well, will help the plant, taking away the energy to do so and speeding things up. You will still need to put a wire or something, otherwise the plant will tend to follow the light (up direction). I will suggest you to experiment this on only one plant, so you can see the difference and, if you fucked up a bit, limit the damage. Anyway, even a half broken stem can be "fixed" with some tape to keep it in place, the plant will make a scar that is more rigid and the loss minimal. Like every technique, the more you practice, the better!
Peepingbushman
Peepingbushmanweek 11
Did you have any look with gg pal I am having the same issue thanks
Peepingbushman
Peepingbushman
@samadhi, cheers pal feel better now lol and good luck with that large girl
samadhi
samadhi
@Peepingbushman, I did! If you are able, change your photoperiod to 12/12 and she should flip right into flower. I have nine more of the beans left, so I'm hoping this isn't a chronic issue with this strain. Good luck with yours and thanks for following along!
Willowshes
Willowshesweek 4
They look amazing and that LST job looks like is producing good results!
Willowshes
Willowshes
@samadhi, Totally interested in seeing the results!!! My 3 BB Kush are now flowering but I will keep them without training. One of them showed some signs of root stress or something else, some leaves were sprouting all curled, with white stains on its leaves. That plant is definetely shorter than the other two, but still flowering and thriving. I will post an update soon. It is good to see the progress of another beautiful blackberry in your diary!!! I'll stay tuned!
samadhi
samadhi
@Willowshes,Thanks very much for following along and for the comments! I'm very interested to see the how the Blackberry finishes now that she has around six or seven tops to fatten up! I'm especially interested to see how her yield compares to the other two if I don't end up training them also.
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billweek 22
Awesome job imo. πŸ€©πŸ’– Happy vaping.
samadhi
samadhi
@Puffer_Bill, Thanks so much for the kind words and for checking out my diary!
IDOSWED
IDOSWEDweek 19
Too high to make an update? πŸ˜‚Same shit here... 2 harvests and can not make myself to upload all the photos.. Good luck - I hope you are fine!
samadhi
samadhi
@IDOSWED, FInally updated! Hope you enjoy, mate! :) Thanks for following along. Stay tuned as I'll be starting my Mephisto run in a few days!
HighTV
HighTVweek 10
Loving the color of that LSD-25! Nice work. What strains are you looking at next?
samadhi
samadhi
@HighTV, Thanks for your comment, mate! I'm thinking going forward I'll only do one strain per grow. With that said, with the seeds I already have on hand, I have it narrowed down to Dinafem Moby Dick XXL or Sweet Seeds Red Poison. I really need a Sativa dominant for daytime activities so I'm thinking the Moby Dick may be the way to go.
Eauderay
Eauderayweek 6
Hello Samhadi! It could be better if you switched the tall middle plant with the shorter one next to her ( is it blue dream?) ? Looks like she is receiving less light and so growing slower..
samadhi
samadhi
@Eauderay, thanks for your comment! I agree and have moved her to the center of the tent with the taller ladies flanking her on either side. :) Cheers!
Ganjaman420UK
Ganjaman420UKweek 22
Wow! Nice main stem πŸ€” I mean trunk πŸ˜‚ HAPPY GROWING AND GOODLUCK πŸŒ±πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘ŠπŸ‘βœŒοΈ
IDOSWED
IDOSWEDweek 19
DUDE! πŸ˜…
IDOSWED
IDOSWEDweek 17
Hey man, I'm happy found your diary. I have the same problem with Blue Dreamatic from FastBuds. It's week 10 now and 2 out 6 have not started to show any signs of flowering despite the fact I moved them to a 12/12 light cycle week ago. Seeing your fat buds on the last update gives me some hope that I might get some too (some day). I have my 2 late bloomers marked as #VEG on my last update, you can check them out if you'd like to. Happy growing and Jah blessings! ✊
Smowkabowl
Smowkabowlweek 15
Nice looking plants. I would just bend them over at a height that works for your set up instead of just cutting 'em back. They may just surprise you at how hardy they may be. If not cut 'em off later if they start dying. Peace.
DadasGrow
DadasGrowweek 4
Hope all goes well with your grow my man!
Willowshes
Willowshesweek 2
Looking great! I am 4 days behind you with some Blackberry Kush from Dutch Passion. I'll stay tuned for your growth!
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 10
Hi, Ive been reading your Diary and you started saying " wont stress her" and you didit a long time. In week 5 you mention a nitrogen overdose. Then in week 8 you talk about agressive defoilating, and in week 9 you lollipopped her. And here we are you miss the Flowers on her. Well well, you stressed her with defoilating and lollipopping. the plant tries to bring back the defoilated and lollipopped Leaves. That takes all the energy and she cant establish beautiful Flowers . Maybe 24 hours of darkness and at least no more defoilating helps her to get nice budsites
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@samadhi, i only can repeat not to stress her and maybe 24 hours total darkness puts her to taht thing. I know that the Gorilla glue (photo) takes a long time to flower ( long period) i think the only thing that will help her is TIME........ And if she wont start in the next 10 days i would say its a genetic issue. Do you have any closeups from your Gorilla to look what she want to do=?
samadhi
samadhi
@Mrs_Larimar, Thanks very much for your input and for reading my diary. The week 8 defoliation, as I mentioned, was thorough but not terribly invasive. That said, the additional defoliation/lollipopping and nutrient lockout were definitely more stressful for her. However, even with the second defoliation she never slowed in her upper vertical and bushy growth and she had already been slow to flower before I ever took a leaf. With that in mind, I was hesitant to blame defoliation as the culprit, though, I do acknowledge that I probably didn't help things with my meddling. I'm definitely new to this and still making a lot of rookie mistakes. At this point, the focus of my query lies mainly in what steps I can take to get GG to start flowering and finish her run. I have seen mixed opinions about whether switching to 12/12 has any effect on helping to induce flowering in autoflower genetics; with some saying it will help almost immediately and others saying time is the only ingredient. Do you have any insight into that topic? Thanks again for your help!
CoastGrower
CoastGrowerweek 22
Looks tasty! How vome it took 22 weeks to harvest? Fastbud claims it’s ready in 8 weeks..
samadhi
samadhi
@CoastGrower, They are! This pheno ended up being a photoperiod and had a couple of false starts into flower before I finally intervened and flipped the photoperiod. The yields made up for the inconvenience though! That said, a lot of folks online seem to have that issue with this particular strain so keep that in mind if you decide to do a run.
Jc_Zeus
Jc_Zeusweek 5
Can you give me a guide for soil ?