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samadhi samadhi
5 years ago
Going into week 6, I have a newfound appreciation for just how quickly things can go off the rails. I start this week on the heels of and facing several issues. - Failure to monitor EC and keep the entire medium continuously soaked from the beginning left me with outflow ppms of 2200 during week 5. By the time I had the issue corrected BB suffered possibly irreparable nitrogen toxicity and both her and LSD-25 stretched as result. Excessively high root zone EC allowed for reverse osmosis and water to be drained from the plant and leaves to become dessicated. Coupling this with nitrogen toxicity caused severe canoeing of sugar leaves and fan leaves close to the top. - Failure to train LSD-25 and issues with stretching have caused the plant to reach too close the light and I can no longer raise the light without changing the setup as the light hangers have no additional slack to take up. Gorilla Glue is just starting her stretch and is far away from the surface of the light, leaving her in a less than ideal configuration. On the plus side I have the outflow ppms consistently around 1300 now. Inflow solution is averaging around 600ppm and I will leave it there until things stabilize before moving up gradually. I have increased fertigation to two events per day to maintain low outflow EC. Blackberry is looking quite rough these days and I wonder how much I can expect from her after the shock she endured during week 5. I will, of course, do my best to nurse her back to a more ideal state of health and attempt to salvage whatever harvest I can from her. She still shows the fattest flowers and leaves near the tops are beginning to display a vibrant purple color along with the calyxes. LSD-25 handled the nitrogen toxicity much better but is leggy and stretched as a result. Overall she still looks healthy and I anticipate she will not be affected to adversely by the wild EC swings. I may have to tie her main cola back to keep her from knocking into the light if the PK boost doesn't slow her down. LSD also has deep purple calyxes, more so than BB but no purple on the leaves yet. Gorilla Glue is still short and bushy, a lovely plant. However, her pistil growth is much slower. I am balancing dosing her with light PK and boost to induce more vigorous flowering but also want to get a bit of a stretch out of her to get her closer with the canopies of the other two girls. At this point the ball is entirely in her court and I'm mostly just along for the ride. Nitrogen toxicity did not affect her as much due to her beginning flowering much later. Thanks for reading and following along! More updates to come later this week! CONSOLIDATED WEEKLY UPDATE: - Light moved to hang directly from tent support bars to accommodate LSD-25 who has reached the high end of her possible height range. - Gorilla Glue is now in stretch. - Final height stats for week 6: BB = 96.5cm | GG = 75.5cm | LSD-25= 123cm Outflow TDS currently hovers around 900-1000ppm with inflow around 700ppm for most fertigations. All plants have stabilized with signs of nitrogen toxicity having subsided. Some very obvious damage remains on Blackberry, especially with upper sugar leaves, that she will probably never recover from fully. She certainly won't be the prettiest of the bunch but this isn't a beauty contest, thankfully. To her credit, she still shows decent flower production in spite of her bout with nutrient burn. Remaining plants look to be healthy and fully recovered with no immediate pressing concerns. Sorry for the sparse updates this week. Hope to be more active during week 7.. Cheers!
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samadhi
samadhistarted grow question 5 years ago
Gorilla Glue is now 60 days old and shows only a handful of preflowers. Some sources say only time will get her to harvest and adjusting photoperiod will not help with auto genetics. Should I move her to 12/12 to induce flowering or is that pointless? Any advice is appreciated.
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Athosanswered grow question 5 years ago
That happens sometimes with auto strains, they just will not autoflower. Switch it to 12/12 and it will flower right away, although you will need some serious training to keep that monster in check.
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Apprenticegrow420
Apprenticegrow420week 5
wow you're doing something right! they look really good man I wish I knew how to do that confidentiality to produce a better result. also nice paras explaining everything, it really helps get to know your plants and how things are really going and it seems very well !
Apprenticegrow420
Apprenticegrow420
no worries mate :) check out my diaries if you have time but I don't quite as much information as you do... I should probably write more down lol
samadhi
samadhi
@Apprenticegrow420, Thanks, mate! It's been a learning process with some bumps in the road for sure. I'm glad you appreciate the detail as, sometimes, I feel I might include too much information ;) I appreciate the kind words and encouragement, Also, many thanks for following along!
samadhi
samadhiweek 15
@Fast_Buds, Love to hear your thoughts on this unusual GG lady of mine. :)
samadhi
samadhi
@Fast_Buds, Thanks for the response and no worries. The flip to 12/12 got her back on track. See updates for week 16 & 17. Not much longer for her to go now!
Fast_Buds
Fast_Buds
@samadhi, Hey man! Sorry for the delay in response. It looks like the wonderful growers on this sit have helped you out a lot with advise, hehe. I do agree with the majority of them, that you may need to switch to a 12/12 cycle. Though I'm curious to see where you're at now with her since it's been a few days since your last update.
OneDude
OneDudeweek 9
Hi! A personal experience report for the next time: If/when i fail to lst, i will do a more aggressive training called supercropping (there is plenty of material in the web). To do training late in the plant formation, the best way is to do a heavy watering (just before overwatering) to make the stems more flexible and/or spray the stems with water. When the stems are more soacked with water, they became more "gummy" like and easier to bend without braking them. There is a good chance that you will brake the inner layer (the white one) and this will make a bulge that, strange but true, will increment the yield. The point is that you will trick the plant into thinking she lost the branch and she wants to replace the lost part, thus releasing more growth hormones. In flowering stage it will make more buds ;) If you brake the outer layer of the stem, it will be kind of bad, risking for disease and counter act the positive effect. You can go as far as to put the stem horizontal. In the case, twisting the leaf 90Β° to make them horizontal as well, will help the plant, taking away the energy to do so and speeding things up. You will still need to put a wire or something, otherwise the plant will tend to follow the light (up direction). I will suggest you to experiment this on only one plant, so you can see the difference and, if you fucked up a bit, limit the damage. Anyway, even a half broken stem can be "fixed" with some tape to keep it in place, the plant will make a scar that is more rigid and the loss minimal. Like every technique, the more you practice, the better!
Peepingbushman
Peepingbushmanweek 11
Did you have any look with gg pal I am having the same issue thanks
Peepingbushman
Peepingbushman
@samadhi, cheers pal feel better now lol and good luck with that large girl
samadhi
samadhi
@Peepingbushman, I did! If you are able, change your photoperiod to 12/12 and she should flip right into flower. I have nine more of the beans left, so I'm hoping this isn't a chronic issue with this strain. Good luck with yours and thanks for following along!
Willowshes
Willowshesweek 4
They look amazing and that LST job looks like is producing good results!
Willowshes
Willowshes
@samadhi, Totally interested in seeing the results!!! My 3 BB Kush are now flowering but I will keep them without training. One of them showed some signs of root stress or something else, some leaves were sprouting all curled, with white stains on its leaves. That plant is definetely shorter than the other two, but still flowering and thriving. I will post an update soon. It is good to see the progress of another beautiful blackberry in your diary!!! I'll stay tuned!
samadhi
samadhi
@Willowshes,Thanks very much for following along and for the comments! I'm very interested to see the how the Blackberry finishes now that she has around six or seven tops to fatten up! I'm especially interested to see how her yield compares to the other two if I don't end up training them also.
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billweek 22
Awesome job imo. πŸ€©πŸ’– Happy vaping.
samadhi
samadhi
@Puffer_Bill, Thanks so much for the kind words and for checking out my diary!
IDOSWED
IDOSWEDweek 19
Too high to make an update? πŸ˜‚Same shit here... 2 harvests and can not make myself to upload all the photos.. Good luck - I hope you are fine!
samadhi
samadhi
@IDOSWED, FInally updated! Hope you enjoy, mate! :) Thanks for following along. Stay tuned as I'll be starting my Mephisto run in a few days!
HighTV
HighTVweek 10
Loving the color of that LSD-25! Nice work. What strains are you looking at next?
samadhi
samadhi
@HighTV, Thanks for your comment, mate! I'm thinking going forward I'll only do one strain per grow. With that said, with the seeds I already have on hand, I have it narrowed down to Dinafem Moby Dick XXL or Sweet Seeds Red Poison. I really need a Sativa dominant for daytime activities so I'm thinking the Moby Dick may be the way to go.
Eauderay
Eauderayweek 6
Hello Samhadi! It could be better if you switched the tall middle plant with the shorter one next to her ( is it blue dream?) ? Looks like she is receiving less light and so growing slower..
samadhi
samadhi
@Eauderay, thanks for your comment! I agree and have moved her to the center of the tent with the taller ladies flanking her on either side. :) Cheers!
Ganjaman420UK
Ganjaman420UKweek 22
Wow! Nice main stem πŸ€” I mean trunk πŸ˜‚ HAPPY GROWING AND GOODLUCK πŸŒ±πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘ŠπŸ‘βœŒοΈ
IDOSWED
IDOSWEDweek 19
DUDE! πŸ˜…
IDOSWED
IDOSWEDweek 17
Hey man, I'm happy found your diary. I have the same problem with Blue Dreamatic from FastBuds. It's week 10 now and 2 out 6 have not started to show any signs of flowering despite the fact I moved them to a 12/12 light cycle week ago. Seeing your fat buds on the last update gives me some hope that I might get some too (some day). I have my 2 late bloomers marked as #VEG on my last update, you can check them out if you'd like to. Happy growing and Jah blessings! ✊
Smowkabowl
Smowkabowlweek 15
Nice looking plants. I would just bend them over at a height that works for your set up instead of just cutting 'em back. They may just surprise you at how hardy they may be. If not cut 'em off later if they start dying. Peace.
DadasGrow
DadasGrowweek 4
Hope all goes well with your grow my man!
Willowshes
Willowshesweek 2
Looking great! I am 4 days behind you with some Blackberry Kush from Dutch Passion. I'll stay tuned for your growth!
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 10
Hi, Ive been reading your Diary and you started saying " wont stress her" and you didit a long time. In week 5 you mention a nitrogen overdose. Then in week 8 you talk about agressive defoilating, and in week 9 you lollipopped her. And here we are you miss the Flowers on her. Well well, you stressed her with defoilating and lollipopping. the plant tries to bring back the defoilated and lollipopped Leaves. That takes all the energy and she cant establish beautiful Flowers . Maybe 24 hours of darkness and at least no more defoilating helps her to get nice budsites
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@samadhi, i only can repeat not to stress her and maybe 24 hours total darkness puts her to taht thing. I know that the Gorilla glue (photo) takes a long time to flower ( long period) i think the only thing that will help her is TIME........ And if she wont start in the next 10 days i would say its a genetic issue. Do you have any closeups from your Gorilla to look what she want to do=?
samadhi
samadhi
@Mrs_Larimar, Thanks very much for your input and for reading my diary. The week 8 defoliation, as I mentioned, was thorough but not terribly invasive. That said, the additional defoliation/lollipopping and nutrient lockout were definitely more stressful for her. However, even with the second defoliation she never slowed in her upper vertical and bushy growth and she had already been slow to flower before I ever took a leaf. With that in mind, I was hesitant to blame defoliation as the culprit, though, I do acknowledge that I probably didn't help things with my meddling. I'm definitely new to this and still making a lot of rookie mistakes. At this point, the focus of my query lies mainly in what steps I can take to get GG to start flowering and finish her run. I have seen mixed opinions about whether switching to 12/12 has any effect on helping to induce flowering in autoflower genetics; with some saying it will help almost immediately and others saying time is the only ingredient. Do you have any insight into that topic? Thanks again for your help!
CoastGrower
CoastGrowerweek 22
Looks tasty! How vome it took 22 weeks to harvest? Fastbud claims it’s ready in 8 weeks..
samadhi
samadhi
@CoastGrower, They are! This pheno ended up being a photoperiod and had a couple of false starts into flower before I finally intervened and flipped the photoperiod. The yields made up for the inconvenience though! That said, a lot of folks online seem to have that issue with this particular strain so keep that in mind if you decide to do a run.
Jc_Zeus
Jc_Zeusweek 5
Can you give me a guide for soil ?