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So for my second grow i'll do an experiment. I'll grow the same strains indoors as outdoors. For this reason i'm gonna do two reports simultaneously. One for the indoor girls and one for the outdoors.
I'm really curious because summer just hit and its gonna be too hot all the time. But we'll see how it goes.
And it will be my first time growing automatics.
Day 1: Soaking the seeds in a glass of water and will be planting them in starter pellets tomorrow.
Day 2: Put the seeds in the starter and potted the starter in small seedling pots with Biobizz allmix. Got them a little spray with Phd water with a bit of silica added. I hope the silica helps them with dealing with heat. I just let them do their thing. They are inside the tent with lights out until they sprout. Just checking on them twice a day and mist them when needed. Temps at 25-26° and humidity sits at 60° inside their domes.
Day 3: Oh Wow! One of each kind has already shown up! Noah, get the Ark ready😂 Two more to sprout. Looking good so far!
Day 5: Looking good, although its way too hot. between 28 - 32° during the day. I guess i'll add some co2 to help them with heat when they are bigger. Three are looking great, one has not sprouted yet and one needs to get her head up.
Day 6: All of them have sprouted and unfold their first pair of leaves. I gave them their first sip of 1dl ph'd water with root juice, aloe vera, mykos and bacteria to support root developement. Letting the microorganisms prepare the soil for welcoming the new roots. This is the only sip they'll get this week. Aside from that they are misted 3-4 times a day.
First Day of Week 1:
Got very lucky and all the girls germinated. Happy days! They develop good so far. Heat is the overwhelming issue at the moment. Temperatures are almost always between 28° and 31°. I try to support the ladies with a fan, additional Co2 and some silica in the water.
Because of the high temperatures i have to leave the tent open during the day, which causes low humidity. But i decided to just ignore humidity for now. Just do my best with misting them and i left some water in the tent to help with that and as an aditional cooling source.
I fed them just root juice, microbes, and aloe vera. They get this only once until now, the rest was just misting with phed silica water. Juice for the roots, microbes for the soil, Co2/aloe vera for heat tolerance and silica to build a thick skin. This week they'll get the feed also just once. Beside this its watering every other day with ph'd silica water and regular misting.
I'll give them another week and then repot them in their final 11l fabric pots.
Day 8: They had a horrible night with temperatures of about 35° in the Tent. Open tent is just slightly better with 32°. Until now my lighting schedule was that lights are off during the afternoon, but i guess i'll throw that out of the window. I switch to lights off at night, because i can't leave the tent open during the night. As it is not getting cooler the next weeks, i guess i have to go with lights at about 60° of power. That means lews yield, but i don't the ladies can even tolerate higher temps caused by the lights being brighter.
Day 9: They are still alive and looking good so far, despite the high temperatures. I'm really happy with how it goes so far, when you consider the hurdles. At the end of this week i'll pot them in their final containers.
Day 11: Still a night with 35° next day when i opened it up. But they seem to take it like little champs. Gave them a sip (1dl) of phed water with root juice, acti vera and a bit of bio heaven today. Still mist them 4-6 times a day with ph'd water + silica (due to the high temps) and start to spoonfeed them with sips of water every 2-3 Days. They do great and i'm more than happy with the first days.
Week 2, Day 14: The ways of the girls have parted. After 10 Days, they've split and now the tent is the home of the three remaining plants. The healthiest and biggest ones are now living outdoors.
Yesterday i put all the plants in their final 11l fabric pots. They got extra myco for the roots and a 1l inital watering with ph'd water with Root Juice, Acti Vera, Bio Heaven and microbes to get the soil running. Now they look overwatered, which they are but i guess the should bounce back during the day.
The Pineapple Express looks a bit sad and got some yellowing of the lower leafs going on. Maybe the soil is a bit hot for her size (BioBizz Allmix), but i decided to just do nothing and see what it looks like when she is not overwatered anymore. Hulkberry and Crystal Meth are fine i guess. We'll see whats coming. I'm hyped and curious how the indoor- vs outdoorgrow will unfold.
Day 17: Oh boy the temperatures... I have to face the fact that this grow is not about the experiment indoor vs outdoor. It is about surviving until harvest. Temperatur is regularly between 31° and 35° in the tent and i refuse to install an ac. Maybe i'll bring them outside for the night, just to give them some time with moderate temps to recover. The good thing is: They are still alive and kind of doing their thing (even if nuteburn is a real issue in addition to the temps). But: i'm learning.
Day 19: So we got some colder days ahead and it's a huge releaf for the girls. I put them outside during the night for the last two days, to give them some recovery from the insane temperatures and they seem to respond very well (Woohooo automatics). Today i can let the lights run at 100%, until now 60% was the max because the temps were just way to hot. The indoor girls are way smaller than their outdoor pendants, so maybe they now have some time to catch up. This summer indoor grow (which i don't think i'll do again next year), is just a constant juggling of temperature vs. light intensity and its about finding the sweet spot for the most ideal conditions (because its impossible to get ideal numbers), but its fun and automatics make it kind of easier to manage.
I started LST on the crystal meth plant, just to optimize light penetration. LST will be the only training techniques i plan to apply.
Week 3, Day 21:
Crystal meth is already in preflower?! What the fuck dude, i mean fastbuds really lives up to their name but come on! I mean these are my first autos, but that seems weeks too early.
I guess the premature flowering was triggered due to the heatstress and the change in light wavelenghts, when i put them outside during the night because of the high temps. They did not get any nutes besides soiloptimizer. But well, i let them run. Maybe they'll give me a proper gram, we'll see.
The other two ladies seem to do quite good, despite the huge temperature fluctuations. No more yellowing or rusting on the leaves and they seem to have switched to a proper veg state. So i'll introduce them 1ml fishmix once this week and see how they respond, while cutting back on microbes and rootjuice.
Their outdoor counterparts are vibrant, healthy and doing great.
I'm kinda lost what go feed the crystal meth girl, but i guess she just gets the same feeding. No special treatment for this snowflake and we'll see how she takes it.
Edit: Oh wow, fastbuds seems to really be that fast. Seems like i got bamboozled! That is really impressive! Godspeed!
Day 22: I gave them their weekly feeding with 1ml Fishmix and the soil enhancers. 0.3l for each plant and we'll see how they take it (PH 6.5). I also did some LST on the crystal meth and the pineapple express to maximise light coverage on the canopy.
Day 23: Wow, they reacted instantly to the fishmix. The whole plant has darker leaves, which means the nitrogen has arrived i guess. That also means we are fine in the PH-departement. Very cool to see them responding so fast! For the rest of the week, they only get plain water with silica.
Day 25: While the bad weather was sad for the outdoorladies, it was a blessing for the girls indoors. The temps were cool enough to let the light run on 100% but i got to cut it down again tomorrow because the next really hot days are just ahead. They show some clawing due to a slight nitrogen toxicity i guess, but i think they will be fine. I'll cut down on the nutes next week.
Week 5, Day 29:
The girls had a good week. Because of bad weather we had lower temps, which allowed to let the lights blast with 100%. The ladies did appreciate that and rewarded it with pretty explosive growth.
Fastbuds is still on the fast lane and already in the flowering stage, Pineapple Express is growing pretty stretchy while Hulkberry is clearly the leafy girl. She put on so much leaves, its impressive. But she pulls up last in the flowering lane.
This week the next heatwave is in full force, it is impossible to get the temps lower than 30°. They had one regular feeding last week. I try to do two this week with 0.5 ml grow and 0.5ml grow and see how they take it. Last feeding they were very sensitive to the nutes.
I LST them every 2-3 Days and try to spread them out as good as i can. Kinda difficult with the hulkberry, but doing my best. At the start of the next week, they should all be in flower.
Day 30: They got a generous feeding of 1l nute water for each plant with the first 0.5ml/l Bloom fertilizer added in. Forgot to switch from Fishmix to Grow, but i'll do that next feeding. I took some big fanleaves off the hulkberry, to get some light into the canopy.
Day 31: Well... we got a heatpeak at the moment. I can't get the temps under 33°. It is what it is. Poor girls, but i hope they take it well. I cut the lights back to 60% to keep temps under 34°, will get it back up when temps are lower.
Day 33: Pineapple Express shows some clawing and very dark leaves, crystal meth has no clawing but also very dark leaves and hulkberry is thriving. Despite cutting the feeding almost in half, PE and CM are intoxicated. So i just stop feeding them Grow fertilizer until they are fully recovered. Hulkberry gets a but more. Shes just a hungry girl, while PE and CM are very picky eaters. (While the outdoor girls don't give a f)
But we got some lower temps, so i could rise the lights again to 100% with temps around 32° in the tent. I kinda upped the bar and goal is to keep temps under 32,5° which i think is pretty manageable with lights running between 80% and 100% (If the outside temps are under 32°).
Week 5, Day 35: Its an up and down. This morning, they were pretty droopy but they fight the heat well. The next rainstorm has arrived and temps dropped. So today i can up the lights again, wohoo! Its a rollercoaster, but they kinda handle it. Let's see how it goes.
Day 37: I defoliated them a bit, especially the hulkberry needed a haircut. So they are a bit stressed, but i wanted to take of some foliage before it is getting very hot again. So i gave them their weekly feeding, but left out the GROW because i think N is sufficient and i don't want to stress them again with too much nitrogen. So i hope they recover well.
Day 39: The girls are better, but still a tad droopy. The crystal meth shows some yellowing on the lower leaves, so something must be off. Soil was dry, so i gave them another watering with 1.5l nutewater (including 0.5ml/l grow) and see what they do.
Day 44: Well i was out of town for 3 Days and when i came back the plants stood dry and only the crystal meth showed some clear yellowing. Over two days the other two starting to develop the same issue.
I fed them on the next day with 2l nutewater for each of them, but it didn't slow the chlorosis down. I always measure PH before every watering and it is usually between 6.3 and 6.7.
I don't have a clean watering routine but the get water every 2-3 days. I also have fabric pots, so i don't think they are overwatered. I can't find any pests.
Kinda bamboozled about this developement. Anybody a good idea what i am missing? I will test the runoff next time i water.
Day 49: Last week was full of issues. The Leaves of the Crystal Meth got much worse and i have no clue what is causing it. (But some hints, thanks to you) I still try to figure it out. She will get a good flush tomorrow and then we'll see.
But the other two are quite stable. They still are kind of droopy, but better overall. Maybe i flush all three once just for a little reset and see how they react to it.
Sooo i guess this will be the strategy:
1. I'll give all of them a flush with 6.8ph water, to get the perfect spot. Just in case its a nutrient lockout (should not, because i always checked ph when watering) or nuteburn (could be, not sure if i messed up there). So that could help with these problems and should not do big harm to the plants.
2. If they do not stabilize i'll give them additional cal-mag, in case its a calcium or magnesium deficieny which may occur more often with LED lights. That may be bro science, but i remember to have read that multiple times.
3. I try to treat them for rust fungus, septoria or or such fungi. Its unlikely but i got high temps as well as high humidity in the last weeks. I got very good air circulation, but the other circumstances and symptoms would kinda fit.
I guess the problem is most likely wrong watering, wrong feeding or a combination of the two. Of course there is the heat, the humidity etc. (but i don't think these factors cause symptoms like this)
Day 50: I flushed them all with 10l of plain water with ph'd water (6.5-6.7). The hulkberry holds noticably less water than the other two. I just let them chill for a few days now. Temps sit at around 26-27° and RH is between 40 and 50%, so they should be quite comfy for them. We'll see.
Day 52: The Flush did not seem to help much. Pineapple Express and Hulkberry got much more yellowing in the two days since the flush. So i guess they are deficient. Gave them a little feeding (soil was still not dry), not ideal but i guess they are hungry.
The crystal meth i'll leave as is. The flush didn't seem to harm her and the symptoms did not get way worse i guess. So i'll leave her drink up and will feed when she is dryer. But before the next feeding i'm gonna check her trichomes. If they progressed more than i think, she will just get flushed until the end.
Day 54: I think we maybe stabilized a bit. The yellowing situation did not get much worse and was slowing down. So i think the flush und reintroduce nutrients were not a bad move. Crystal Meth is showing a 50/50 ratio of cloudy and clear trichs, so i will feed her one last time and then let her finish with water only.
Pineapple Express started to notacibly fatten up her buds, while the hulkberry is a bit behind.
Day 56: The last week was quite chill, the flush seems to have helped a bit and the yellowing didn't get worse.
Pineapple Express is doing fine, the buds are fattening, the hairs are getting a nice orange. They seem to be on track.
Hulkberry is still too light green, thats why i fed her constantly last week instead of my feed - water - feed schedule. She is the last of the bunch indoors and still has a lot of white hairs and plenty of fattening to do. We'll see.
Crystal Meth is almost done. Trichomes are 60-80% milky with a sprinkle of amber. I'll give her at least another week, maybe two. She is getting flushed from this week on. She looks freaky and i love her.
Day 60: We keep trucking forward and the road is not as bumby as it used to be two weeks ago. The lower temps are great, as i can leave them sitting at 27° all day. The next days are getting warmer and we will have some work again with heat management. I still think the hulkberry should still fatten up a bit, but we'll see. Pineapple Express is doing great and the crystal meth just does things different als the others. Really interesting to see all three developing very different!
Day 63: So i guess we enter the last quarter of life for these ladies. Hulkberry stays very yellow, despite feeding her every watering cycle. I don't know what i can do to help her. I think maybe it is caused by bad drainage. The pot does not retain water very well. Maybe i'll just try to water them more often. We'll see.
Crystal Meth is pretty much done. But because i need the growtent for drying, i let her run for another two weeks and then it is chopping time for all of them. I guess that may be the sweet spot. A tad late for crystal meth, a bit early for hulkberry and perfect for the pineapple express. Not optimal, but the best i can do to minimize the smell and give them best drying conditions i can. So we'll go for that route.
Last week of feeding and then they will get flushed i guess. 😊
Day 67: The last feeding for Pineapple Express and Hulkberry and i think i have to chop the crystal this week. She already is overdone and looks like a crispy chicken leg, trichs are about 30% amber. I need to figure out how to dry her while covering the smell, but i can't let her run longer. We'll figure something out 🙈
Day 70: The girls are in their last week(s) of life and are getting flushed until chopping day. They trichomes look 90% cloudy with just a tiny bit of amber and some clear. I want to wait until there are no clear ones and chop then for a nice sativa high. But i guess they are just days away from harvest and i'm excited. The hulkberry did not get as fat, as the pineapple express. I think this has to be mainly due to the drainage problem and feeding mistakes, but i'm really happy how it went so far.
The crystal meth is already chopped and is currently drying inside the tent. It is clearly overdone, but we'll see how she is to smoke. Happy times!
Day 74: Temps are crazy again. Lots of cloudy, almost no amber trichs. Maybe i'll wait another week. We'll see
Grow: It was a grow under harsh conditions. It flowered long before the other ladies and i did not adapt the nutrients. So i guess she had the wrong nutrient dosages for most of the grow. Besides that: The temps were always way too hot and peaked at 36° on some days. And i let her go for too long. So a lot went wrong and the result matches that. The buds are very light, almost not existent. But i harvested 15g of dry buds after trimming and drying. 5/10
Taste/Smell: It tastes nutty and earthy, i have never tasted anything like that. Its like you just ate some peanuts before smoking. The taste is more on the subtile side and quite the opposite of a "dank" smelly weed. Perfect if you want to have a smoke without too many people noticing, but i love strong flavours. 6/10
High: This high is a very special. It is that one weed in my stash where you don't have any stoney feeling in your body. Some of the purest sativa highs i ever had. Very unique! A very clear head high that keeps you active, awake and motivated. Very good weed for daytime and to be productive and/or creative. Exellent when you want to be high and high functioning. Crystal clear high! (pun intended) 10/10
So this was my second grow and the first time i grew autos. Because of the summer heat i didn't stand a chance providing good environmental conditions for this lady.
I just harvested, dried and trimmed her and it was a grow under harsh conditions. It flowered long before the other ladies and i did not adapt the nutrients. So i guess she had the wrong nutrient dosages for most of the grow. Besides that: The temps were always way too hot and peaked at 36° on some days. And i let her go for too long. So a lot went wrong and the result matches that. The buds are very light, almost not existent. But i harvested 15g of dry buds after trimming and drying. But i have to say, the other two autos in the same tent and under the same conditions grew pretty good and look like they are gonna yield much more.
I wait until the buds are cured and will report how it smokes. For now i'll give it a 7, because it smells delicious, looks unique and it pulled through despite the harsh circumstances. But it was not as durable as the other two strains.
I think maybe i'll give it another try some time down the road, because the purple is beautiful and the smell is very nice. But not in the near future.
Day 77: Welcome to the amber-trichome-waiting-room. 😋 The trichs are almost all cloud, but i want to wait until there are 5-10% amber. So i just let them go until it is time. They get plain water and nothing else.
As the buds are still curing this is just my first impression after smoking some kief/scissorhash.
Taste/Smell: The aroma of this batch is really delicious! Tastes of tropical honey, with hints of citrous and a faint sour aftertaste! It is a delight when opening the jar. Great Stuff. Definitly a flavour type i want to have in stock more. Made me wanting to buy the photoperiodic seeds to get more of that tasty sweet deliciousness 10/10
Effects: Pineapple Express delivers a smooth and mellow high. Very calming and peaceful. Good for winding down after a day of work or the right way to start a relaxing weekend with a flavoury sweet treat. Gives a noticable and very pleasurable body buzz. Its not a hard hitter, for people with decent tolerance it'd be a chill weed for the day when you need a bit of a breather. 8/10
Grow: Easiest grow i ever had, indoors as well as outdoors. Managed crazy temps, temp swings, feeding mistakes and everything a new grower could throw at them. Yielded 50 grams despite the harsh environment and eaely harvest. 10/10 Thanks Barney's!
The overall theme of this grow was the environment. This lady experienced environmental conditions way out of her comfortzone and did fantastic. They survived temps ranging from 17° to 37° and because i could not let the tent closed up, humidity was all over the place during the grow.
Besides that, they were my first autos and i am so glad i chose them for this summer grow. I didn't have to worry about lighting and just needed to focus on nutrition and watering. This is a hardy strain, that delivered besides everything not beeing optimal. I grew them in Biobizz Allmix, which was a bit hot during the seedling stage, but they adapted quickly and did great during veg and flowering. I would have run them a week longer, but i needed to harvest early due to holiday plans. I am very satisfied with their grow. Top notch genetics for my experience.
Despite all the environmental fuckups, she yielded 50grams of deliciousness. Thats a win in my books. Yay!
Taste: I taste gassy, herbal, earthy and citrusy flavours. I'd say the flavour profile is not the strongest selling point for this weed. It smells and tastes good, but not anything outstanding. After curing the most dominating flavours are gas and citrus. For me it tastes like a mixture between tastes that kinda feels a bit random, rather than a nice "harmony" of flavours. Nothing really bad, but it is just not clicking for me 6/10
Effects: I really dig the high of hulkberry auto. After the first puffs, the high is accelerrating continuosly until you suddenly realise how high you really are. It pushes you forward while keeping you awake and focused. For me it leads to a very meditative state of mind which is great for being creative. Maybe not the best if you have to do serious tasks, but great for just working on something for hours (drawing, music, gaming) or just go out for a walk and just live in the moment. A clear headed high, very little body effects and just a really peaceful but active/happy high. Absolutely loving it! 10/10
Grow: I had crazy temperatureswings during this grow. Environmental consitions were bad and i misfed her many times. She took it well, but there was a lot of potential left. So a hardy strain, wich can take a punch and still delivers 8/10
The overall theme of this grow was the environment. This lady experienced environmental conditions way out of her comfortzone and did very well. They survived temps ranging from 17° to 37° and because i could not let the tent closed up, humidity was all over the place during the grow.
Besides that, they were my first autos and i am so glad i chose them for this summer grow. I didn't have to worry about lighting and just needed to focus on nutrition and watering. This is a hardy strain, that delivered besides everything not beeing optimal. I grew them in Biobizz Allmix, which was a bit hot during the seedling stage, but they adapted quickly and did great during veg and flowering. I would have run them a week longer, but i needed to harvest early due to holiday plans.
I had some trouble with the drainage and the hulkberry soil could not retain water as well as the others. Due to that i think i messed up with the nutrition, next time i'd feed her more. But she still grew some nice buds and smells fantastic.
She yielded 46 grams, despite all the environmental fuckups and my feeding fails. Really solid!
@GrowWithFlow, Thank you so much my fellow growmie! The drying process makes me more nervous than the grow itself, but i'm really looking forward to the first smoke🌻🎉🔥
@KingSalomonsWeed, Really? That is insane :D I just thought i had a hallucination when i opened the tent yesterday 😂 Thank you so much for this comment, it is such a relief. I asked myself what could have caused that the whole day!
Your humidity is possibly causing C.Septoria if you're not seeing nutrient issues, try getting some Calcium Chloride-based indoor dehumidifier and/or Bicarb of Soda. I have constant fluctuations in temperature + RH here and I found those both helped keep it from ~60-70 constant without it, and afterward to ~43-60 stably.
@delta_420, Yeah i definitely have really high fluctuations in temperature and humidity since the start of my grow, Thank you so much for your advice! 🌻🌱
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