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burnerac burnerac
6 years ago
Day 85: still not adding water despit my desire to do so. Finally picking up an arrow of goodness. Day 86: Added one gallon pH 6.5 water with nutrients. This is quite the bush. Day 87: panic! What is happening to my leafs? Day 88: no time to flush. Status quo. Day 89: still no time to flush. Status quo. Day 90: soil seems too dry to me but not watering until slurry test is complete. Spoke with Oregon's Only and received advice direct from nutrient manufacturer. Result of slurry test: pH. 6.3 ppm 459 Day 91: took my fear that I was over watering to the other extreme and now have yellowing and wilting due to under watering. Added one gallon pH 6.3 water with two tablespoons of Herculean Harvest.
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Grow Questions
burnerac
burneracstarted grow question 6 years ago
Since the AK-47 is autoflowering, do I just leave the lights on 24/7? 18/6 from the beginning? 12/12? Switch schedules between veg and flower? Thanks.
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Techniques. Defoliation
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mad_scientist
mad_scientistanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hello @burnerac! I always use 4/20 light cycle for autos but thats depend on you . The more hours the lights are on the bigger the yield. Although i wouldn't recoment a 24/24 cycle. Every living creature needs to have some rest. Also i don't thinks its worth it to make anything less than 18/6! Happy growing !👊
burnerac
burneracstarted grow question 6 years ago
Any thoughts on what is happening with the leaf on day 32? Any recommendations on trimming or training at this point?
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Leaves. Tips - Burnt
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OutForReal
OutForRealanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hello ! Well your plants can be bend with the LST technique but as she was slow during the first weeks you should not top or stress the plant too much (not recommended but you can , it's up to you) . By trimming I think you mean defoliation , so I'm not a defo pro , in your case it would be unuseful as your upper leaves does not block the light to your lower stems , even the effected leaf don't need to be cut before 50% is damaged ( I go to 70% as the plant still sucking the energy out from the old leaves). The only training I would do at that stage is to pinch the main stem just under the new nodes to encourage secondery stems growth. Concerning your damage leaf it can be heat like bulbi told you but the edges of the leaves would be burnt too ( not only the tips) , I would no bet on a deficiency as you'r using plenty of fertilizer ( do you check your ec/ppm level ? you should grab an ec/ppm pen to do so , it will help you to feed better) , but your plant looks pale like a Nitrogen deficiency , weird to me. I hope it will help you 😁👍
burnerac
burneracstarted grow question 6 years ago
I've basically thrown all training out the window. I am not doing much more than just letting it grow. The tent really needs more lighting but that isn't going to happen this grow. I presume that flowering will begin within the week. What do I need to be doing right now?
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Athos
Athosanswered grow question 6 years ago
That's some monster plant; I would suggest that you try to force flowering by setting the light schedule to 12/12 if it does not start soon, but before that, prepare the canopy with some training, consider supercroping the taller tops, it's easier to keep the plant height in check with it compared to LST.
burnerac
burneracstarted grow question 6 years ago
Have a look at the pictures for day 87. What is happening to my leaves? And what do I do? They are only on the top and in a couple of places.
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Leaves. Color - Mottling
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HighTV
HighTVanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hey @Burnerac! There are numerous problems occurring here. I will give you the best course of action in this time period. First thing is to flush your plant with PURE water PHed properly for 4-7 days . This allows the plant to clear its system of all the nutrients that have been building up and allows the soil to drain the nutrients out without adding more. Again - Only water. You are overfeeding Herculean Harvest at 15.62ml/L which is double the max amount at this stage.(3-8ml/L). I have attached some Championship diaries below that utilize Herculean Harvest so you can compare the amounts used. I believe this is the source issue that needs solved! Hope I helped Burnerac, please feel free to ask any more questions 😎 ------------------------ growdiaries.com/diaries/6274-germ-039-s-six-shooter/week/34184 ------------------------ growdiaries.com/diaries/2375-mephisto-skywalker/week/13624 ------------------------ growdiaries.com/diaries/1329-first-time-space-bucket-grow/week/8481
burnerac
burneracstarted grow question 6 years ago
Take a look at this day 126 picture. Is this foxtailing and is that bad? https://growdiaries.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/static/post/photo/4665/802772_second-cropilgmak-47-autoflower.jpg
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hey there so I'm not certain of the foxtailing from the photos, it does seem at the day 126 i see a big bud that has the fist shape to it and another couple with the tall point out the top which could hint at fox tails. however i know my summer grows pretty much all had some relative fox tailing happen deep into flowering and I had pretty low humidity to deal with consistently....7-35% and fairly high heat 90+. If you have both the 300 watt and 600 watt going during flowering its possible they're getting it at those top most buds from heat/light stress. This isn't exactly bad other than the fact of heat/light stress i believe can start lowering the thc or affecting terpenes etc. I think your main battle will just be having a couple oddly shapped buds. Hope that may help a little, happy harvesting. ✌️
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 16 years ago
Autoflowers are sensitive with their roots they like is loose and fluffy nothing that keeps them Back, Most times rockwool to germinate is to much for her, i would recommend to took on other growes who do dwc and how they solved it with their autos.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommented6 years ago
@burnerac, gotta go bio every time man 👽 🚀
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented6 years ago
@burnerac, you are welcome
burnerac
burneraccommented6 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, very helpful comment. Thank you!
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonscommentedweek 116 years ago
You might want to consider dialing back the watering a little. They need a little bit of a dry spell in between waterings. Also, test your runoff ph and tds and post that data also. It helps to identify issues. Good luck!
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommented6 years ago
Hi @burnerac, what happened is some over feeding probably due to some overwatering which caused too much available nutrients, and so your plant is "locking out" some nutrients for example magnesium and potassium. That's why you're getting these wierd deficiencies even though you give nutrients. So how to fix this is next watering only plain water until run off and follow a more strict wet / dry cycle. Hopefully the plant will recover, just keep an eye on it, and try not to stress it in the mean time. Hope this helps ! 🚀
burnerac
burneraccommented6 years ago
@BeefWellingtons, 5 gallon smartpot. The smartpot is in a plastic pot with lots of space around it just for support. It has weep holes and breathability.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonscommented6 years ago
@burnerac, how big are your pots? Do you have something under them has raised edges, allowing for flow to come out, or is it just a flat surface?
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 56 years ago
Hey burnerac, that's classic light burn from the stress caused by the light. that fan leaf was probably jutting out so it got loads of photons shooting into it. Not to worry, you want to dial your lights around 15/16 inches away max so you"re in the good distance already. Keep doing what you're doing, just check your lights every so often because it's gonna blow up hopefully. hope this helps ! 🚀
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommented6 years ago
@burnerac, yeah man, even a small airflow can keep the temps down with LEDs - do it !
burnerac
burneraccommented6 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, Thank you. I was guessing (and hoping) it was light. Reminds me. It is time to turn my fan on and start circulating air.
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreencommentedweek 196 years ago
Congrats on the trim tray arrival, those look so cool . Im curious to hear if it works as good as it looks. 😊
burnerac
burneraccommented6 years ago
@Experimentgreen, I will definitely post about my experience.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 146 years ago
looong timelapse... and suddenly baaam the plant explodes
burnerac
burneraccommented6 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, I had planned the timelapse to be 6 minutes but I suspect the final cut will be about 10 minutes. My next grow will be a more artistic timelapse.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 16 years ago
I wont coverup the seedlingsstation. and i would try small Jiffys or small single pots. where you can transplant them easier after sprouting . Those tablets are not good to handle. lack of soil, danger of overwatering . The Best is a biiig pot after germination Autoflowers like it if you give them the final pot filled with prefertilised soil after germination... then they will be big and healthy
burnerac
burneraccommented6 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, I think I'm going to go straight to 5gal smart pots. I like the idea of switching to jiffys.
Athos
Athoscommentedweek 196 years ago
To answer your question: Could be, it looks like it is, but I'm not really sure. Foxtailing is not bad per se, it is a symptom of a problem. It happens because of heat stress and that is the problem. Check the temperature at the top buds level, if it is too high, you need to lower it or increase the light distance.
The_Projexx
The_Projexxcommentedweek 176 years ago
Sending you lady lots of positive vibes so she finishes in style ! -Happy growing!
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNScommentedweek 136 years ago
There’s no perfect schedule to water a plant ... it depends on plants size and pots size ... The best thing to do , water your plants until you see the drain coming out of the bottom of your pots, then lift the pot you will see how heavy it is, keep the weight in mind and check the pots weight every other day until it gets light again.... it’s easy 😊
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 136 years ago
well well, in my next life iam cretaing my own" Nutrients Line" I dont want to talk of the 4 Products that containing N, wich are adding up.( Nitrogen excess) That maybe she bares. But you gave your plant a huge amount of P and K with Hercules Harvest. The P+k Elements are in the Plant, and the ones she needs now, cant be absorbed. Because the plant is" FULL" fed up. Solutions: Skip all Nutient Bottels with an N ( Nitrogen) for that grow. Give her a nice Flush, reduce hercules Harvest, because budbuilding depending in a lot of factors TIME; LIGHT; POTSIZE and in the end in Nutrients. You have to deal with a lockoutsympthom, some leaves will get brown, crusty , yellow etc. But in the end Hemp is very resiliant. Happy growing
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 136 years ago
My recommendation: sort your bottles .... there are a lot with N... and another few with P and K , choose one bottle with N-P-K for the first 4 weeks ( Low percent around 4-), then one with lower N and more p and k and maybe for the last weeks of flower the Hercules harvest greetings
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 16 years ago
hey there I started with 24/7 but switched down because i kinda over did it but i would still suggest 24/7 but maybe with veg lights, then switch on your bloom lights and throw a nice resting period in there. What's great about autos they dont really get light leakage stressed, but they're still seedlings in a way so too much light will stress them out too. Maybe vary the intensity, go lower to higher, same with the lamp to plant distance and enjoy the veg !
DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeedcommentedweek 16 years ago
Personally I like growing my autos under a 20/4 light cycle. I keep them under that light cycle for the duration of the grow. Works great for me. Good luck 👍
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreencommentedweek 176 years ago
Hey there i was looking back through some of your weeks and I was just curious if you see the buds being more mature a little lower down and then the top most buds having continual newer looking pistils? White ones vs ones changing color and curling in?
burnerac
burneraccommented6 years ago
@Experimentgreen, I'll take a closer look this evening and let you know.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 16 years ago
Hi, what happened with your seeds=?... there should be more to see
burnerac
burneraccommented6 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, I'm not sure. I'm getting a little worried.
vasileiadisv56
vasileiadisv56commentedweek 16 years ago
In 12-12 autos are not good i had them from the beginning on 12-12 schedule they gave me 5 gramms each plant and some gave me seeds also though they were auto matic.So no 12-12 and no outdoors because my experince from autos is 18-6 light is the minimum and nature canot provide you 18 hours f light.
Athos
Athoscommentedweek 156 years ago
What are you using to take the pictures for the timelapse?
Stick
Stickcommentedweek 156 years ago
Hi @burnerac! You did fed an autoflowering strain with a crazy amount of nutrients, and as a result, your plant is now burnt, foliage is dark and curly, you also have brown spots, global yellowing and purple stems, so that's multiple issues at once. Proceed to flushing, for at least 5 days, and help the medium to dry with a tiny fan slightly blowing on your container. You must have some salt buildups in your soil and roots are flooded in nutrients they can't handle anymore. Take it easy with her next meals, you must decrease the EC. Do you measure the EC? Otherwise this could explain how you managed to get into this situation. Flush flush flush, only plain pH'd water, and see how it goes after a few days. Affected leaves won't recover but you should see buds fattening and in the best scenario the new sugar leaves should have a healthy green. Hope this will help, keep us up-to-date and happy growing 👊
burnerac
burneraccommentedweek 196 years ago
Take a look at day 133. Are we ready to harvest?