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MrGreenFingers MrGreenFingers
6 years ago
Did another round of defoliation and put a couple more bendz on to try get canopy fairly even, she responded well although I have just realised I've made a big mistake this grow, I swapped over to an air injection diffuser from air stones but I just checked it in the bucket and it looked fine to begin with but I haven't really been checking it and I've changed out the res once, anyway when I changed out the res at the end of this week I had some sort of brown sludge on my air lines which I've never had before and I guess it's some sort of algae, so I did the res change turned on the air pump and literally there was like 5 bubbles coming out the air diffuser so my poor girls have been sitting in stagnated water for god knows how long, shocked I haven't got root rot and they look fairly healthy but have been confused why they haven't grown as much as I am used to, changed back to air stones and there is a 10000% difference, hoping I pulled it back in time and I see some stretch and more bud sites over the next 2 weeks before buds form
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Grow Questions
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingersstarted grow question 6 years ago
When I flip to 12/12 should I feed veg nutes, bloom nutes or a mixture of both, if both what ratio, I was thinking 1st week 70/30 veg/bloom and 2nd week 30/70 veg/bloom?
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Athos
Athosanswered grow question 6 years ago
For the first two weeks give it growth nutes, after the second weeks add the bloom nutes in a 50%-50% ratio
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingersstarted grow question 6 years ago
Sterile res vs res with beneficials in DWC? Please state your opinion if you have run both with the pros and cons, thanks!
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Techniques. Defoliation
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HighTV
HighTVanswered grow question 6 years ago
@ChroToker I don't personally use Beneficial bacteria additives in my DWC reservoirs anymore simply based on cost effectiveness. If everything about your grow has been optimized from temperatures, airflow to humidity and you are looking to improve something then adding active microbial life in your reservoir can do wonders! However without an ideal environment the effectiveness of the microbial life falls drastically. On the contrary if you have an ideal environment and are adding C02 then microbial life effectiveness goes up even more! If you do have an ideal environment and are looking for a good DWC Beneficial bacteria then I recommend 'ReCharge". Long story short: In my opinion Beneficial bacteria should come 2nd to last in your environment and only when followed by C02 for the most cost effective results. Of course if cost effectiveness isn't a worry to you then microbial life is good for roots at all times! (just don't forget to do reservoir swaps) 😎 I hope I was able to help with your question ChroToker. Be sure to update us!
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingersstarted grow question 6 years ago
Has my grow stalled, seem very under developed for this stage, the very tops seemed to have got slightly bigger this week but not by much but all the lower stuff has stayed tiny! There just not filling in at all in length or breadth, should I flush or carry on as I am?
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Buds. Not fattening
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 6 years ago
Hi, ive been looking through your Diary and the Girls started to flower in week 11, that means you are in 3.rd week of flower. I think your Girls will need 7-8 more weeks in flower.. The only thing your GIrl need now is TIME. Nutrients by itself wont help alone. Its always the big Match of LIGHT, POTSIZE ( ROOTS) And TIME. Your LIghts are good, Potsize is fine. Dont overdo it with The Nutrients, save your booster , give it in 4 weeks . Happy growing
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Hybrid
Hybridcommentedweek 56 years ago
I meant to say before - super lemon haze was my last grow. You won't be disappointed! Smells and tastes delicious. Unfortunately that was before I discovered growdiaries,com, so no journal.
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@Hybrid, I do hope so, smell and especially taste are the most important thing for me, pity I can't check out how your grow went as mine seems to have stalled since I topped her, she is just staying at 9 inches tall, I know she will stretch alot and possibly triple I height but still I expected her to be bigger at this point, she is also hardly drinking so maybe it will take off once I flip to flower??
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommentedweek 106 years ago
Thank you bro, hoping I don't have anymore issues finishing this one off πŸ™‚
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 116 years ago
Hi, ive been looking through your Diary and the Girls started to flower in week 11, that means you are in 3.rd week of flower. I think your Girls will need 7-8 more weeks in flower.. The only thing your GIrl need now is TIME. Nutrients by itself wont help alone. Its always the big Match of LIGHT, POTSIZE ( ROOTS) And TIME. Your LIghts are good, Potsize is fine. Dont overdo it with The Nutrients, save your booster , give it in 4 weeks . Happy growing
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, I just switched light from a Viparspectra 900W (actual 418) to this light, but this light should be better as it's a Quantum board so alot more red spectrum for flowering apparently!
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented6 years ago
@MrGreenFingers,look at the grow ive posted to you its very similar..... And I grow both, but previously my first indoors photoperiod,,, i switched 3 weeks ago to 12/12 and no sign of flower
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, I really hope you ate right! It should be considering there Sativa's! Do you grow photo's or autos? I ask because I'm wandering whether I might have a light leak and if so could this be affecting it as my other girl in the tent took almost 4 weeks to start flowering after 12/12 switch!
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented6 years ago
@MrGreenFingers,today i looked for the PLant and hershe showed up female flowers too, she hermied I dont know in what point that went wrong. they had zero stress
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, oh no! That's my worst fear, are they feminised seeds or regs?
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented6 years ago
@MrGreenFingers,ive been looking for my plants yesterdy, on the search for flowers and one was a HE iam so disappointed 9 weeks and its a boy
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 106 years ago
i'm just nervous about the idea of intentionally contaminating my tank and my grow room, plus you can always add enzymes and humic + fluvic acid which basically does the job better. Are you going aquaponics ? like with live fish and stuff? are you a microbiologist ? if not well why are you making petri dishes lol ? gonna be real hard to stay on top of a dynamic system, one night with no warning the culture can blow up suddenly you're growing mushrooms and mold... headaches bro, spare yourself ! πŸš€
HighTV
HighTVcommented6 years ago
@MrGreenFingers, There is difference in Quality/Yield in terms of using Beneficial bacteria vs not. Typically both quality and yield will increase with proper use. However without an ideal environment the results aren't cost effective vs time and $ spent in my opinion. If you do have an ideal environment and you can add C02 then its pretty undeniable that they can be cost effective.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommented6 years ago
@MrGreenFingers, πŸ˜‚ as always i suppose, going bio is going to yield less than synthetics or a mix of synthetics and bio (minus 20% yield at least in soil-less - you see folks crying about that when they experiment - see some of hawkbo's grows where he tries it) ... by the way check out a few really cool aquaponic grows on here lol, dude keeps complaining about his fish πŸ˜‚
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, No bro, I've only run cannazym and Rhizotonic lol, got root rot because I switched from air stones to some air diffuser rings I bought on eBay but didn't check them and all the holes must have got blocked and there was 0 air in my res, switched back to air stones and am now running a sterile res which I will most likely continue with next run, I really want to know if there is a noticable difference in quality and yield?
ChefGreenThumbGardenofWeedin
3 quick questions 1.did you use the recommended amount of terpinator? 2.do you really believe that it helps with the smell does it make a difference? 3.and when you added it to the water did you add it with the nutrients in the same container or did you add it separately?
ChefGreenThumbGardenofWeedin
ChefGreenThumbGardenofWeedincommented6 years ago
@MrGreenFingers, thanks for taking time to answer
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@ChefGreenThumbGardenofWeedin, hey bro, here are the answers 1. I used 4ml per litre throughout flower 2. Honestly not sure, only way to tell is run a side by side with 2 cuttings from a mother plant but I can say my buds have good smell and flavour 3. Just mixed my nutes as usual in 1 bucket and added this to same bucket, hope it helps bro, 1 thing I would say is that it does raise ec at about 0.1 per 1ml/l even though it claims not to and also I bought the 5l bottle but I will have this for the next 5 years at this rate but I only grow 2 plants at a time in a 4x2
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 116 years ago
hey man check this out : https://cch2o.com/growers-blog/root-pruning-to-aid-in-proper-system-function/ if you've not been doing this, that's why growth has been stalled, a bit late in the cycle to do it, but better late than never ! πŸš€
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommented6 years ago
@MrGreenFingers, basically root pruning is part of a "correct" hydro grow , it's the secret folks dont mention πŸ‘Š
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, thanks, 1st time I've heard of it, will give it a go next run!
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreencommentedweek 146 years ago
Hey there i see you mention the phone camera and it's lack of producing the best photos. I had trouble with this all summer...then i started to mess with the settings more, using with flash and without, and taking it off the auto setting too. Maybe if you haven't already tried this, test it out.✌️ Your 3rd and 4th pic this week still turned out very nice.
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@Experimentgreen, thanks! They have definitely improved since the start of the journal when I was using Auto as the light from my boards is warm white so made everything lighter then it actually is, I am using pro mode now and have set it so the pictures look more as the plant should, I also bought a clip on macro and wide angle lens but I need to do some reading up as know nothing about photography!
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreencommentedweek 126 years ago
Any chance defoliating at this time might have slowed them down a touch too?(5th week of flower) On your other grows did you defoliate around this same time frame?
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@Experimentgreen, it might have done but this is the least I have ever defoliated and never had an issue, think the issue is the root rot I got earlier in the grow as I'm used to a much bigger root ball at this point
HighTV
HighTVcommentedweek 76 years ago
Beautiful looking leaves nice work my friend Keep it up πŸ’ͺ
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@HighTV, thank you buddy, just hoping for some stretch and more side branching as she has been 10 inches for ages lol
GardenOfHerbs
GardenOfHerbscommentedweek 66 years ago
She looks super healty πŸ‘Œ
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@GardenOfHerbs, thank you, I'm happy so far πŸ€“
OutForReal
OutForRealcommentedweek 56 years ago
Your training is perfect πŸ˜πŸ‘ do you notice a difference between the Vipar and the Quantum at that stage ?
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@OutForReal, thanks Bro! Honestly it is so hard to tell with the lights as this is my first Sativa strain and first photoperiod grow so I really don't know, but my boards have a hell of a lot more red spectrum but less blue so should be better during flowering, at least on paper! Can't wait to see the results, my next grow when I go back to indicas will give me a better comparison although I'm going to stick with photoperiod's now, Stawberry Banana and Kosher Kush from DNA genetics are next on my list πŸ‘
Hybrid
Hybridcommentedweek 56 years ago
Looking good man. I'm a big fan of Shogun nutrients. Check out my diary - also a first DWC grow - having moved over from coco. What LED are you using?
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@Hybrid, thanks man, yeah I am liking the shogun so far but I also liked canna to be honest, I am using a quantum board for this run, it uses the new Samsung Lm301b diodes, I swapped from a Viparspectra 900w, I will check out your grow dude
AutoKing
AutoKingcommentedweek 46 years ago
I'm pretty sure we're friends on another site. At autoflower. My name is Northern Lights 420 there. We're friends on here too. Haha, too cool!
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@AutoKing, ah yes so we are! I like this site to refer back to previous grows, you can see my last couple grows on here!
AutoKing
AutoKingcommentedweek 46 years ago
Good luck bro. I'm telling you general hydroponics nutrients when you want to try something new when you run out of what you got, cheap and effective in every growing medium (hydro, soil, and coco coir) Look at how my pineapple express auto loves it. Watch my journal and you'll see. My friend uses canna in his coco set up though with good results.
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@AutoKing, thanks man, actually just using up the last of my Canna nutes and then will be running the whole shogun range, once there done I think I will try Dutch Pro or Remo, just to much to choose from lol
Tonino
Toninocommentedweek 36 years ago
wow this one is having a great second week
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@Tonino, not quite that good! Sorry 1sr week is 2 weeks old and 2nd week is 3 weeks old, confusing right? Maybe this week I should skip week 3 lol
TheWeedMan
TheWeedMancommentedweek 46 years ago
Goodluck! She’s coming along
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@@TheWeedMan, thanks my man πŸ‘
bobo420
bobo420commentedweek 26 years ago
Good luck with the grow ;)
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@bobo420, thanks I need it!
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSAcommentedweek 26 years ago
Good luck mate... You grow some impressive buds with DWC, will follow.
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@MaryJaneUSA, thanks bro, 1st photoperiod grow and I've waited to long already to start with calmag as seeing brown spots, have added now though so hopefully all good!
grzesiek
grzesiekcommentedweek 26 years ago
and if u can use canna all the way................aqua vega and flores.......................they figure out this shit long time ago.........................................btw my plants dont see anything but canna and so far my EC didnt exceed o.64...............................check it out......................there is a hygrohybrid on youtube
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingerscommented6 years ago
@@grzesiek, yeah I used the whole Canna line up last 2 grows with Stella results - you can see in my other diaries, but I want to try shogun this time as heard good things about them but still have some Rhizotonic and Cannazym left so will finish those off