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Day 30 overview. 4AM on the left :D
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Week 5 Summary: Days 29-32: I normally watered every 2 days but I noticed the girls were getting thirstier and alot faster. Had to up my watering volume to 15%(1.5l) pot volume once with a Calmg+Ph water, as it says on the bottle of the Calmg I shouldn't mix it with K boosters, So I'm doing a Calmg only Ph'd watering and then a bloom nutes feed at 1/4 strength so far.(biocanna bloom nutes still contain enough nitrogen and so does the Calmg). Last feeding on day 30 was with 2l. Hoped they would stay happy longer. They did but not as long as I'd hoped lol. Day 33-35: I was actually going to wait one more day to feed them after feeding them the most they have gotten yet(volume wise), but 3 days later they actually unexpectedly showed signs of underwatering so I had to feed em on the 24th...(day 33). Gave em another 2l. Noticed signs of deficiencies today. Plants were showings signs of underwatering, and temps were at 28 celsius and 45% RH. Heat stress? But the leaves affacted(see pictures) were toward the bottom and old. Oh well, will add Calmg next feed. Fast forward to day 35 and the pots are already feeling light again, so I finally decide to water till I get a significant amount of runoff(hard to judge with these air pots cuz they sometimes leak out the sides). Gave em all a nice kind of flush(only Calmg) of with 3l each. Going to stay at 3l from now on, seems to be the right amount of runoff. Soil is a bit acidic atm judging by the runoff PH(strange as it was really alkeline last time). Not really sure what to do with the soil runoff PH lol. Also I have been defoliating every time I water them as well. I think I'll start to go easy on them now after doing what I did to them last night lol. But checked today(day 36) and they are doing great, already starting to recover, even saw a slight increase in height from last night(like 1cm). Since this is my first grow I'm not really sure if they are on track but comparing it to other grows of the same strain I seem to be doing ok :D
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Grow Questions
EelGrows
EelGrowsstarted grow question 6 years ago
The leaf twisting and contorting i'm seeing in the first set of true leaves; is that due to incorrect PH(my tap water has 7.7 ph)? Also the discoloration on my 4AM #3's second set of true leaves(only one has the discoloration), can anyone tell me what that is? Is it bad?
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Stickanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hi @EelGrows! I see the twisting/curling leaves you're talking about, and I also see you're already having some purple stems. What's your night temp? Are you applying a wet/dry cycle with quick rotations? In this situation I would buffer the pH to the optimal pH range for soil (~6.0-6.5 with most of the feedings at 6.2), try to raise the temperatures a bit (by 2-3 degrees at least), and try to stick to a wet/dry cycle, I.E. one day wet with nutrients, one day dry, one day wet with plain pH'd water, etc... I would also consider improving the airflow, my guess is that you currently don't have a nice & smooth continuous breeze onto your babies, so try to put a small rotating fan slightly blowing onto the canopy. If things don't get better after a few days, come back in here with more details&pics so we can help you out to refine the diagnosis and review your parameters. Hope this will help, keep us up-to-date and happy growing 👊
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EelGrows
EelGrowsstarted grow question 6 years ago
So closing week 7 now and my 4AM are showing signs of deficiencies again. I watered(with nutes) ph'd around 7 past few times and the runoff has still been ~5.9, indicating acidic soil(nute lockout)?At this point, you think it's best I just flush with plain tap water(ph ~7.7)?
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CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hi Eel, you're experiencing PH fluctuations and maybe yes, lockout but mostly due to the very high PH of the incoming watering. This is causing mayhem in your soil . The PH of rain water is 5.5 never go too much higher than that, 5.9 is fine 6.0 is fine anything more than that will cause issues. That's because different nutrients are absorbed at different PHs starting with micro nutrients at 5.7 and up. So your soil is now struggling to buffer up to 6.5 where run off should be. Stop feeding it 7PH it's causing all your problems. Yep, simple as that ! The leaves already affected by phone fluctuations won't recover but the problem should stop spreading pretty fast. Hope this helps ! 🚀
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Electro19
Electro19commentedweek 56 years ago
@EelGrows, I didn’t get the stretch I had imagined with any of my 3 plants. I felt I had the biggest stretch between weeks 3 and 4 which at the time I thought was the final veg phase but in reality was my beginning flower stretch. I had a little more growth after that but my 4AM stayed under 15” total. The Mephisto website says it is on the small side of medium but I’m not sure what that means. I will definitely give veg nutes earlier in the seedling stage next time to try and jumpstart the veg. I’m not sure if the smaller size is normal or if it’s something I was responsible for. Next time will only teach me more.
Electro19
Electro19commentedweek 56 years ago
Good Luck on your grow, I’m following along. I am completing my first grow and had a 4AM in my tent. I will be harvesting in the next week or so. You can smell the grape crinkle for sure. I was also concerned with my watering schedule and wasn’t sure how much to give. After the seedling stage I began to water twice a week with about 1.25 L. I then switched to every other day for watering with an occasional 3rd day if they felt heavy still. I also watered them with 1.75L a few times when the smart pot felt too dry. I used 5 gallon smart pots and feel I didn’t underwater my plants but that I didn’t saturate enough of the outer soil to get full potential. This is also my first grow so I’m just learning too. Good Luck
EelGrows
EelGrowscommented6 years ago
@Electro19, I thought mine were growing a bit slowly at first too, but I think it's just the 4AM phenotypes that stay short more often than not. I doubt more veg nutes would help, atleast I doubt it would have with mine. I think maybe more/better light at a further distance during early veg would have helped them stretch at the start. I was afraid of overstretching my seedlings so I put the light rather close and I think that's why ALL(the White crack I'm growing alongside these 4AM) my plants stayed extremely short during veg and only showed stretch at the start of flower like yours. I'm measuring height daily not so I can see what's going on for sure. Seems they are still slowly stretching out a bit.
Electro19
Electro19commented6 years ago
@EelGrows, I didn’t get the stretch I had imagined with any of my 3 plants. I felt I had the biggest stretch between weeks 3 and 4 which at the time I thought was the final veg phase but in reality was my beginning flower stretch. I had a little more growth after that but my 4AM stayed under 15” total. The Mephisto website says it is on the small side of medium but I’m not sure what that means. I will definitely give veg nutes earlier in the seedling stage next time to try and jumpstart the veg. I’m not sure if the smaller size is normal or if it’s something I was responsible for. Next time will only teach me more.
EelGrows
EelGrowscommented6 years ago
@Electro19, Thanks! Coincidence! I've been keeping a close eye on your grow mate! Since it's my first time I've been comparing my plant's growth rate to others around the same age. At the moment the only thing I'm a little concerned about is them not stretching much more. Right now they are about 28-30 CM tall, just starting to show first signs of frost. First time growing mephistos so I'm very excited. About the watering; Yeah I realized when I watered 2l and still didn't get any real runoff that I needed to up it. Decided 3l was a nice place to start next. I'd think I got something like 10-15% runoff with 3l, which I'm more than happy with. Will stick to 3l till the end of the grow now, probably will have to up the frequency. I gave em their first 3l watering on wednesday, thought for sure I would have to rush and feed them today after work(saturday), they don't feel completely empty yet, probably in 4-6 hours. I saw 1-2 fungus gnats this week so I want to let the soil dry out extra well. Will have to keep an eye out for them. You think I'm going to get a atleast a bit more stretch now that I'm in week 6?(Day 38 today)
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreencommentedweek 26 years ago
Hey there I was just curious if your plants had any reddish color to them? I notice your question mentions discoloration and it could be the lighting giving #3 a red/purplish tint to the stems and what not?
EelGrows
EelGrowscommented6 years ago
@Experimentgreen, I just use imgur to post pictures, don't really use it to ask questions. But I'm sure you can.
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreencommented6 years ago
@EelGrows, that imgur is cool...you can ask about anything on there?
EelGrows
EelGrowscommented6 years ago
@Experimentgreen, See my comment above with the imgur link. I have the spot in question outlined. Thanks for the reply though
DeaneR
DeaneRcommentedweek 116 years ago
Way to grow! Congratulations on your harvest! What's next?
EelGrows
EelGrowscommented6 years ago
@DeaneR, Thanks! If all goes to plan, this summer season outdoors I'll be doing 2x Midnight Mass(photo strain) and 2 auto runs(both will be 1x C4 Auto, 1x Sour Hound Auto, 1x Zkittlez OG Auto) spaced about 3-4 weeks apart.
StonedWolf
StonedWolfcommentedweek 116 years ago
This is a BIG ASS harvest, 0.89gr/watt is awesome 😲 And they look delicious too
EelGrows
EelGrowscommented6 years ago
@StonedWolf, Thanks! I couldn't be happier! Only thing that kind of fucked up this harvest for me was driving into a random police checkpoint the day before... License is gone for now and probably a large fine(blood was taken for testing and i know my thc values are through the roof lmao). I've been driving for 14 years now and never had an accident and any large speeding tickets(at most 10kmh too fast on the highway). Sucks it being illegal where I live... Oh well live and learn. Atleast I got this great stuff to smoke for now! And walking is good for me anyway! 😅
OKgrows
OKgrowscommentedweek 116 years ago
Looks so good!
EelGrows
EelGrowscommented6 years ago
@OKgrows, Thanks mate!
ROM101
ROM101commentedweek 116 years ago
Congratulations mate great grow and result keep it up👌👌
EelGrows
EelGrowscommented6 years ago
@ROM101, Thanks mate! Hope to improve! Althought I'm far more than happy about the results!
DeaneR
DeaneRcommentedweek 26 years ago
What is the brandname of your pots? Will follow....best of luck on your grow.
EelGrows
EelGrowscommented6 years ago
@DeaneR, From where I bought them they just said "Air Pots" 10L
drzoidberg
drzoidbergcommentedweek 16 years ago
looking good following this one also
EelGrows
EelGrowscommented6 years ago
@drzoidberg, Thanks man! Looking forward to sharing my first journey!
HighTV
HighTVcommentedweek 16 years ago
Hope you don't mind me following along with these 😎
EelGrows
EelGrowscommented6 years ago
@HighTV, Please do! It'd make me try even harder! 😁😉
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 66 years ago
Great diary Eel loving the details , I see why you're trying to add 7ph water, but what matters is the incoming pH more than the outgoing pH, pH of rainwater is 5.5, go with God for best results you know 😉 anyway let me know if you have any more questions I ll do my best to answer.
EelGrows
EelGrowscommentedweek 26 years ago
Thank you everyone for the answers. I have 2 fans blowing in the tent atm, the plants are being moved slighty by the breeze. Will get atleast 1 more, maybe 2. My night time temps are around 21 celsius. Day time 24 celsius. RH is 50-55 and now that i have ph down all waterings will be ph'd to 6.2-6.5ph. I'm not quite sure if i'm underwatering; they arent showing any signs of underwatering. I water every 2 days now. Will read up on applying rhizz as a foliar spray(havent done it as i was worried about the lights then burning the wet leaves).
EelGrows
EelGrowscommentedweek 26 years ago
This is the spot I'm talking about in my question: https://imgur.com/gallery/5hnfnwn