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Strain
C4 Auto
Fast Buds
Growing it
Easy
Resistance
Neutral
The Outcome
Week 11
Harvest
What's on the scales?
143
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
Harvested
2
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.0427
mยฒ
ftยฒ
Grow Room size
0.14
g / watt
3348.95
g / mยฒ
71.5
g / plant
46.84
plant / mยฒ
23653.4
watt / mยฒ
Tastes like
Berries
Flowery
Sweet
Feels like
100% Sativa 0% Indica

Positive effects

Euphoric
Happy
Hungry

Negative effects

Dry mouth
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Silverback_Guerilla Silverback_Guerilla
6 years ago
This second run of C4 has been trouble-free and ultra-rewarding. : 1: I was lucky enough to have a pink and a purple pheno in the same grow. Both plants responded perfectly to FIMing. I was worried that they wouldn't because my first attempt at this strain, FIMing seemed to dwarf the plants. The yield was more of what I expected in the first run. I think I'll end up with about 130g-140g from the two plants. I can't describe how unpleasantly wonderful(?) their aroma is...the consensus here is a putrefied apricot and candle wax(paraffin). Really unique and pungent. Both plants were covered in trichromes and sticky-icky.๐Ÿ˜‹ I'll update with a my smoke report and final thoughts in a couple weeks. THURSDAY 3/7: FInal dry weights: C4 #3 - 62g - purple pheno - the greasiest and most pungent of the two - sour C4 #4 - 81g - pink pheno - the best tasting and smelling of the two - sweet Both plants are equally intoxicating (very), but the pink pheno's buds were tighter and break apart perfectly. It was also quite a bit easier to trim. My wife and daughter like the sour flavor of the purple pheno, but I definitely prefer the sweeter taste of the pink pheno. One of my Candy Canes had some sneaky nanners and she pollinated a couple of flowers on the pink pheno, and on one of my Amnesias. I've decided to try growing the F1's resulting from this accident...immediately. I found a couple beans on C4#3 as well..the purple one. Will try them this fall.
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Grow Questions
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerillastarted grow question 6 years ago
I have a question about what the general consensus is on calculating final dry weights and factoring the amount of light used and square feet taken to grow plants. Do you weigh with stems or without? Total light in tent and total space in tent divided by # of plants?
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Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicanswered grow question 4 years ago
I don't go for contest. And my stash is way to much already. So, my dry weight is without the stem. I worry about rot, so I dried harder than most people would. My ratio of wet to dry weight is somewhere between 7:1 to 9:1. Its depend on the plant structure. And that is from strains, the type of additives, and the season.
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Doktorholland
Doktorhollandanswered grow question 5 years ago
u weight only dry buds after trimm
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 6 years ago
yeah man exactly , so for example in a 4x4 i can fit 9 5 gallon pots so when i harvest my 5 gallon plant i divide the sq.ft.-age by the number of plants in this case 9, total light used is the largest amount of W used in my case 600W. Wet weight is basically everything on the branch, dry weight is without stems and manicured bud. The site calculates the rest for you. hope this helps bro ! ๐Ÿš€
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garneroutlaw
garneroutlawweek 11
Would you just look at those colors. WOW.
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Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerillaweek 10
I wish questions could be more verbose, and that it was possible to reply to proposed answers to grower questions... I'll just do it here: This is how I've been doing it: I wait to do the dry weight until it is fully dry and de-stalked. I only weigh the smoke-able flowers and the stems within them, though I do like to leave at least an inch of stalk as a "handle." When inputting harvest data, I've just been putting the total light in the garden. But I put the actual number of square feet that the 2 or 3 or however many plants required. That gave me wonky/skewed wattages per plant numbers..and thereby, grams per square feet numbers. But now I'm thinking this is better: Lights: Total light wattage divided by number of plants in that particular diary Grow Room: Only the actual space the plants in that particular diary required For example, if my total wattage is 1010w, and I have 13 plants sharing that light, it would be 78w per plant. If there are 3 plants in the diary, then that would be 78w x 3 = 234w Right?? Or, maybe it would be better to just count the total wattage of light directly over the plants included in a diary? For example, I have bar lights spaced about 4 inches apart...each bar being a total of 85w. 3 plants are getting direct light from 3 bars, for a total of 255w...which seems closer to the truth.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Silverback_Guerilla, I feel ur pain thatโ€™s a horrific turnout. Was running 99.1% myself for the last 2 years... until recently. Guess luck catches up with us all. Best of it to ya dude. ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿคž๐Ÿคž
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerilla
@TheBudWhisperer, same here man...in about the last 10 days, I've floated 25 beans and only had 5 emerge...kinda freakin' out...i really need at least 12 plants or I'll be angry and sad for the next 70 days...
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Silverback_Guerilla, IMO - total light wattage for the space, divided by the total number of plants within it. Thatโ€™s the figure Iโ€™d be working with if I went that in depth on my lights. That said, my primary concern (mainly due to a smaller grow space) is efficiency in terms of yield per sq/ft. I can afford the electric bills but I canโ€™t afford to have dudd beans. Which is, ironically, a slight problem Iโ€™m having right now!!! ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerillaweek 11
@Stick, Thanks for your response! You said this: Total dried product weight รท Total lamp wattage = Yield per watt of light What I don't understand is how/where you get the total though... So, for example, if in my current grow I have 12 plants in the tent, comprised of 5 strains in a total of 3 diaries... One diary will show .3 g/w, another shows .28 g/w, and the other shows .32 g/w Do I just add up each of those values to determine the actual yield per watt for the entire grow? Or is it smarter to just divide the actual draw wattage in the entire tent by the total number of grams from the entire grow? 655g divided by 1010w = .65 grams per watt....right?? That kinda sucks, huh?
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerilla
@CRiSPrGrow, The manufacturer of the lights I bought claims they can produce greater than 2 grams per watt, but I'm betting that's with heavy CO2 supplementation and less than 12" from the canopy (> 1392 uMol m*/s) Whereas, at 15"-18", I'm only getting about 1200 uMol m*/s..and with the CO2 levels I average, I can't really move the plants any closer without burning them... So, then, my current production bottleneck is in maintaining a high enough ambient level of CO2 to be able to lower my lights to 12" or less so that my plants can fully utilize all that glorious light and not be adversely affected by the radiant heat produced by the fixture... Another challenge...
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@Silverback_Guerilla, it doesnt suck that much ! I mean if you werent a light freak lol you'd have less draw and a "better" ratio ๐Ÿ˜‚
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 11
Amen to the above bud. She ran out very nicely - really pretty plants๐Ÿ‘Œ
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Silverback_Guerilla, yeah dude - sheโ€™s a looker and woulda been s DOTM candidate for sure๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Ž
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerilla
@TheBudWhisperer, Ya, thanks! I just wish I had selected the C4's for my single-strain diary this go-round...doh!๐Ÿ˜ฃ
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 7
Despite the challenges they seem not to have suffered too much dude. Really looking primo๐Ÿ‘
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerilla
@TheBudWhisperer, Aw, shucks...๐Ÿ˜Š It's a labor of love..and intoxication.๐Ÿ˜œ
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@CRiSPrGrow, no doubt - that tent is my wet dream! Lol
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@TheBudWhisperer, i've learned so much about lights from SBG ๐Ÿ˜…
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ROM101
ROM101week 11
Nice work silverback๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerilla
@ROM101, Thanks man!
garneroutlaw
garneroutlawweek 11
Would you just look at those colors. WOW.
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerilla
@garneroutlaw, I know, right?? She's purdy!
GreenHouseLab
GreenHouseLabweek 12
Classis strain NL, looks good ๐Ÿ‘
Wachsemilian
Wachsemilianweek 12
that tha fook ๐Ÿ˜ƒ that is some nice bud dude๐Ÿ˜Ž
Dunk_Junk
Dunk_Junkweek 11
Beautiful colours!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 1
this strain is next up on my grow list. Very interested to piggy back off it as I plan to FIM as well. Good luck with it dude!๐Ÿ‘
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerilla
@TheBudWhisperer, right back at ya!๐Ÿ˜€
Aethernysana
Aethernysanaweek 11
I'm high as I'm reading your grows and quite impressed. Trying to look for the follow button and it's hilarious.. still can't find it!
DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeedweek 11
Looks Awesome! Well done!!! ๐Ÿ‘
ROM101
ROM101week 10
Looking very taste in that tent mate๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 9
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ต๐Ÿ˜ต๐Ÿ˜ต๐Ÿ˜Ž can probably move your lights up like an hps at this point ๐Ÿ˜Ž
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 12
WTF dude???
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Silverback_Guerilla, then I wish you luck friend๐Ÿคž. That is a grow I will be watching๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘Š
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerilla
@TheBudWhisperer, Breeding wasn't in the plans at all...just happened to have a few sneaky nanners spread their genetics around my very windy tent..normally I'd be pissed, but I'm actually kinda anxious to see the results of these hybrids. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ™ Just gotta keep a close eye on them all the way through because there's at least a 33% chance each plant could also pop nanners...
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Silverback_Guerilla, dude - I breeding your own is an option for ya than all the more power to ya๐Ÿ‘. I canโ€™t say the same so just gonna have to hope my luck turns around๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿคž
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 5
LMFAO yeah ph pens break all the time same with the EC pens... that's why i just use ph strips and ordered 12 EC pens for 0.80 each lol... i know why they break, i know what i should do so they dont break, i know i'm gonna break them by accident anyway lol
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerilla
@Freddd, Ya, I usually do that very thing, but sometimes when I'm having to mix up several different batches of nutes at a time I'll get lazy and just trust new tech before verifying it with old tech... My new pen is kickass, though. I just dip it in the 4.0 and 7.0 and if it's not on the money, re-calibration just takes a minute as long as the temp of the solution isn't too cold.
Freddd
Freddd
@Silverback_Guerilla, The indicator liquid is very accurate between 5.8 and 6.2. Pale neutral yellow is 6, very slight green tint 6.2, very slight warm tint 5.8 if I get a strange pH reading with my pen and the indicator solution is right, it means I need to recalibrate the pen!
Spaceman
Spaceman
@CRiSPrGrow, I grow with Biobizz Lightmix and Hesi Nutrients, I dont test any PH or EC. They even say it is unnecessary testing it in soil.. I have not run into any problems so far ( 1.5 years in this setup now)
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 10
๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ for harvest ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž to damn nanners. Especially the sneaky ones.๐Ÿ˜‰
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Silverback_Guerilla, we all have! Lol๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Ž
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerilla
@TheBudWhisperer, Now that this has happened twice with this strain, and considering that the environment and care were much better than the previous attempt with it, I'm a little less in love with it. But that flavor!!! I guess it's just so desperate to get laid it will go that extra mile...I've been there ๐Ÿ˜
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 12
BHO !
ROM101
ROM101week 12
Unlucky mate how did you kill her? ๐Ÿ˜ญ
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 12
a damn shame what's happened....