thanks for all the replies . I'm really liking this site. @CRiSPrGrow thanks for the reply, I was more wondering so I had a better idea of when to when to start feeding PK and when to stop feeding for the flush.
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LittleBigTrees5 years ago
this week I noticed i had tiger stripes effect on some leaves.
pH was 6.2 in 6.4 runoff. I got an ec meter and checked the runoff ec as well only to find it was at 4150 or there about !!
so I went back to the soil I used mixed with coir and tested the ec , it was 3365 !
from reading around im guessing this is because of added nutrients in the compost (from the bag) .
I also checked the coir (sold as clean just add water and nutes from an online hydro shop) the ec was 1650! I'm not sure if it had nutes added before drying and compressing into a block or if its sea salt (coconuts grow on beaches so maybe it wasn't clean as advertised and had sea salt in it ? or would that have finished a plant off ?)
when I started my seed it had rounded leaves that looked mutated and was very dark green up till around 6-7 weeks of veg at this point the tiger stripes were visible which made me think it was nitrogen deficiency(after all the plant had been in there for almost 2 months.
after adding grow nute's it seemed to darken up again (I also have a Cali skunk seed in same soil but smaller pot this didn't have the stripes but did start off dark green then started to loose its green and fade to yellow as It grew , adding grow nutes made it worse !)
now I've flushed them both till the run off was less than Ec 600.
I'll mix bloom nute's and water again as this seems to be the general advice online for this stage of growth.
I hope I haven't ruined it as it seemed to be going so well.
either way I won't be buying soil and mixing it with coir again . the soil has way to much salts (I'm guessing there added and not organic but not sure if organic has an Ec reading?) and the coir I bought online from a hydro shop was advertised as for growing just add water and nutes, it had an Ec of 1650 (wish I checked this before planting seeds)
still it's a lesson learned(I hope) and an online hydro shop I won't ever use again . I was going to put they're name up to save other people the trouble it's caused me but not sure if that's allowed ?
And next time I'll buy better soil :-( and do run off checks.
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Grow Questions
LittleBigTreesstarted grow question 5 years ago
OK so it says 8 week flower time , I started 12/12 before the plant showed its sex and it was day 14 of 12/12 before the first pistils showed.so do I go 8 weeks from 12/12 or 8 weeks from the first pistils ?
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HighTVanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hey there @Kalikushmush! Your Flowering started Week 7 between "day 16" and "day 18" pictures. Most of the confusion in this topic is actually about what pistils are "Prefloweing pistils" and what pistils are "Flowering pistils". The Pistils that show at the base of the stem next to the stipules show the sex of the plant are Preflowering pistils(week 7 'pistles' picture). The pistils that grow from the budsights creating the actual buds themselves are the flowering pistles (week 7 'day 18' picture). If you are looking to time how long the Flowering stage is then you will want to use the FLOWERING PISTLES from "day 18" pictures.. If you are looking at a nutrient chart this is considered "early flower". The preflower pistils that show sex are considered the 'transition stage' on most nutrient charts and are included in the veg section in most diaries. I hope that helps clear some of the confusion. Long story short: Sex pistiles are not Flowering pistles and your week 5 and 6 were veg you started flowering week 7. I hope that helps! 😎
LittleBigTreesstarted grow question 5 years ago
why does my soil PH keep going up ? I'm adding water at PH 4.5 and feed at pH 4.5 (alternate) to try and lower it, I add 4 litres and have run off between 1-2 litres but the run off is always 7.4+ at first and 6.2 after the run off.is this normal ?
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Experimentgreenanswered grow question 5 years ago
Just a small thought...in the podcast i listened to tonight they mentioned that soil that gets dry has a tendecy to have the EC and such go significantly higher. They were stressing the importance of accurate and consistent watering practices. Do you ever let the soil get just a little bit dryer than you'd like? Or have some days that you just skip watering? I know im guilty of having some longer dry periods until i realized my 1 gallon pots needed water every day and sometimes twice.✌️ i hope you find the solution. I know soil does have incredible buffering capacity though so if your ph is staying below the 7-7.3 range i wouldn't worry. Ph runoff seems to usually be higher than the initial input water. Perhaps the nutrients and the organic material both cause it.
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LittleBigTreescommentedweek 85 years ago
CRiSPrGrowcommented5 years ago
@LittleBigTrees, haha yeah these are tough questions my friend, i see why you ask now ! probably in week 4 of flower for PK for this strain, stop feeding when you're at 80% of milky trykes maybe... depends on the speed of the maturing
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LittleBigTreescommentedweek 185 years ago
thanks :-)
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Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 195 years ago
Congrats to your Harvest, Yes growing is a very nice hobby and totally addictive^^
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LittleBigTreescommented5 years ago
it's very addictive , I can't help just looking at them ! I've got probably to many seeds for my tiny space and got them germinated and two weeks old already . when there big I'll cut some down and freeze them for daily smoothie . I also take fan leaves almost daily for smoothie's when the plants are older. but yeah I'm addicted to growing ! now I just need a bigger space !
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growdoctordccommentedweek 195 years ago
@LittleBigTrees wrote
“... I wish I'd used better soil to start and had more knowledge overall..”
DON’T WE ALL?!! Excellent work. Looks typical and typically delicious. Mini failures and failings are par for the course. Don’t sweat if for a second. You’re well on you’re way to stress free, enjoyable growing. Remember they hardly need you. Like cats
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Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 185 years ago
Looking goood, for your next grow maybe give them omething to lean on, they look like they would need it, heavy loaded branches
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GreenHouseLabcommentedweek 185 years ago
Congrats on your grow!
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The_Projexxcommentedweek 175 years ago
I bet she just smells up a sweet storm in that room ! Keep up the great work and best of luck to you on your race to the finish line !
-Happy Growing!
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LittleBigTreescommented5 years ago
smells nice now :-)
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CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 105 years ago
magnesium deficiency, put the cal mag you'll be fine, cant really over do it on the cal mag
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LittleBigTreescommented5 years ago
I've been giving it cal/mag from early on due to using coir mixed with soil but didn't realise there was way to much salts in the medium . now I've flushed it almost clean should I stick with 1ml/l as on the bottle or up it ? I haven't feed today as it's not dry enough yet but all my plants are looking better for a flush
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JayBoGartcommentedweek 35 years ago
Its kind of hard to tell what is going on by the pics. :( It's good to know she is bouncing back. Looks like she is a little overwatered? Good luck I will be following this one! Thanks for sharing.
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LittleBigTreescommented5 years ago
@JayBoGart, yeah sorry about the pictures , they were more for my use then I decided to add a diary as I couldn't find one online for banana sativa. I'll try to get better pics in the future.
I did wonder if the plant looked slightly mutant due to the 250w bulb (normally start under fluorescent bulb) but the other plants (mix of strains) all started out fine , either way since the banana sativa went in it's 15l pot its grown like crazy ! :-)
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CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 175 years ago
Hope i answered your questions about soil pH. Anything else just let me know. 👊
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Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 175 years ago
I wont be concerned with the ph of your soil. If your girls dont show up problems it is ok. You are nearly at the end of along grow and its possibe that you have a saltbuiltup( from fertilisers),
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CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 85 years ago
hey kalikushmush, i think see why you want to count the flowering weeks, probably so you can time the chop right? yeah dont do that, first the breeder almost always will give you a shorter flowering time than you will have, usually by two weeks, but sometimes more even. Second you should time the chop based on the trichome maturity not a (arbitrary?) number of weeks. get a 60x magnification, and check until you have 100% milky trichomes. Third it can take some plants over a week sometimes even two weeks to start flowering from the flip. So base yourself on when you actually see the flowers rather than when you flip. Hope this helps ! 🚀
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Ferenccommentedweek 194 years ago
Monster buds bro @LittleBigTrees
HID is HID..... Really nice 👊🤝
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LittleBigTreescommented4 years ago
@Ferenc, thanks man, I'm really looking forward to growing this strain again, the high was so good 😎
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Gizzzzycommentedweek 84 years ago
Beautiful work !I've just relised it was your page on Instagram lol 💖💖
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LittleBigTreescommented4 years ago
@Gizzzzy, thanks for the kind words 😁
Yeah I'm new to Instagram but like it over there too 😎
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