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Yantra's White russian & Jack herer feminised
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DILLIGAF DILLIGAF
5 years ago
Ok so the girls are stretching a bit with some of the shoots going over 30cm in height above the net. I"m not sure what to do or if I even need to do anything?? Otherwise plants look super healthy I gave a feed of half strength grow nutes then another feed of half strength flowering nutes and will start giving only flowering nutes soon.
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DILLIGAF
DILLIGAFstarted grow question 5 years ago
How will I know when I can safely stop tucking the branches under the net without comprimising potential yields,I have never done anything like this before so overall how is it looking. 😬
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OutForReal
OutForRealanswered grow question 5 years ago
Your friend told you to keep an eye on pre flowering and he is roght because it will be the right time to stop tucking your branches as the plant will begin her stretch which is the phase when she's starting to get taller so if every holes of the nets are filled it will be all right. So the answer is : when you will see the 1st pistils 😊 . THE overall look nice but you could have tuck the branches a bit more ✌️🏼
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAFstarted grow question 5 years ago
Looking at the above pictures Should I remove some of the leaves to get more air circulation and light in ??? And if so which leaves and how much should I remove at this stage?? Thankyou πŸ‘πŸ‘Š
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Bigface
Bigfaceanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hey brother, looking good there! I would suggest to remove all the very lower leafs and bud site,.. in order to redirect flowering hormones towards the tops, mid section or the plants. This will ensure a larger denser yield of quality bud, as oppose to some popcorn air buds from below. Regarding defoliation... I'd ensure the stretch has fully halted... then look to remove any large fan leaves directly covering bud sites, for starts. Then work your way down the stems taking away any large fan leaves that seem to be in dark cramped conditions, or impeding bud site light penetration. Take before and after pics, you should definitely see a visible difference after your done. And have a pile of fan leaves to decompose! Of course don't go overboard...but make this defoliation practice purposeful... (allowing more light and air to reach lower mid buds)... check out a grower on here called Takeshy, refer to his gorilla zkittlez grow, he's got some pics of a before and after defoliation, to give you a visual. Hope this helps Regards Bigface
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 16
A big enemy for outdoors is high humidity and rain over a long time into dense buds. I dont know how much the Rh is in your country, or if its raining for a week and having high rh near the end of grow. In northern europe its a big problem, Most time iam not able to let them grow as long as they need to, and have to harvest ealier because the danger of mold is very high around september , when all buds are big and nice
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy
@Mrs_Larimar, sticky tape (don't even bother with the more expensive stuff, just use cheap masking tape, maybe colour it with some turmeric if it's not yellow enough) definitely works for decreasing fungus gnat populations, some sugar traps near that too. I also used some custom "pesticide" (on the soil, more as an aromatic or olfactory deterrent than anything) made from a variety of plants I've got growing here or have at my disposal and dumped a bunch of river sand over the top soil. Fungus gnat infestation pretty much annihilated in a few days. All of those things I think contributed to some extent to getting rid of the gnats. Caterpillars are probably worse though (if you're dealing with a bunch of large plants), they'll eat straight through flowers and get like 10x larger in a day, and their droppings (while technically worm castings and maybe even full of thc) promotes fungus of course. It doesn't help if they're the fcking same colour as the plants and tend to only be easily visible and active at night. I also leave predators mostly, yeah, even try to attract them. Spiders, wasps, ladybugs, mantis, etc. Since my plants have been flowering for a while I don't spray at all. When they get excessively wet, shaking them helps too. Which I'd actually recommend people to do fairly often (outdoors) as it dislodges a bunch of (caterpillar, etc) crap and debris, clears water (in case of fungus worries) and probably acts like very low stress training, which could strengthen the plant a bit. *Sidenote: I tried a bunch of stuff directly on caterpillars and NONE of it worked, pure vinegar, lemon juice, cayenne pepper, hydrogen peroxide, etc. Absolutely no effect on the caterpillar so I wouldn't even bother trying to use sprays or something on them (those light green caterpillars, I forget the name), they are incredibly tough, eat any of that stuff and just shit it out within a minute or so. The sprays and pesticides might however have a better effect on deterring the moths and killing eggs though. I can't say, too noob to know that.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@@@Ssomeguy,ok thy good to know, but i dont spray it, i give it in the waterings...... but i overthink that now.......The best results i get with a combination of predatores, sticky traps and neem in the vegetation
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy
@Mrs_Larimar, I've had some issues resulting from exactly that, like a week's worth of rain, constantly. The combination of cool, dark and humid does no good unless it's for a short time. Fungus gnat infestations, caterpillars, a tiny bit of mould, ants farming scales and larvae and shit, etc. But I have learned a lot. *BTW, call me crazy, but I noticed something about caterpillars and the most recommended pesticides which is quite ironic. And I'll explain why I avoid it (BT). BT was initially sourced from caterpillars/moths (popularized right after ww2). BT (modified) kills bees, spiders, wasps (notice that much of these are caterpillar and moth predators) and a number of other things such as beneficial nematodes, microbes (unless I'm horribly mistaken). Yet, it's recommended as an "organic" agent against caterpillars/moths. Bayer/Monsanto logic right there, and I ain't buying.
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DILLIGAF
DILLIGAFweek 21
Updated today 6th april 2019 How are they looking @@Ssomeguy @Bigface @Mrs_Larimar @OutForReal I would like to get half a pound any chance of that or am I dreaming πŸ˜ƒ
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@growdoctordc, hi mate thanks for the positive vibes and yes they are photoperiod plants Sounds like DC will be the place to be in 6 months or so πŸ˜†
growdoctordc
growdoctordc
@DILLIGAF, It’s a pleasant dream! - I haven’t grown autos so I can’t truly speak to the matter, but don’t they finish before ever reaching that size? Is Jack auto or photo? You’re outdoors, so that helps yield multi fold compared to indoors. But it’s tough to get a half pound from photos that live for seven months. Abundant Aussie sunshine I’m guessing yields huge if you get started early. Best wishes for a great harvest, mate! I’m excited here as it’s the ideal time to plant outdoors. I tossed 600 seeds around DC Saturday. Gonna grow it everywhere! No one will be able to stop it!
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@Mrs_Larimar, thankyou
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GrowBeforeHoe
GrowBeforeHoeweek 18
Very nice and healthy looking plants! Kepp Growing! πŸ‘
GrowBeforeHoe
GrowBeforeHoe
@growdoctordc, Thanks doctor ;)
growdoctordc
growdoctordc
@GrowBeforeHoe, Perhaps the most original play on words name on @growdiaries! Kudos!
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@GrowBeforeHoe, thankyou πŸ˜ƒ
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 24
and hey congrats to harvest
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@Mrs_Larimar, Thankyou it was a great experience and feels good to achieve something after nearly 6 months of waiting I am glad they got that extra 7 days to flush and mature πŸ˜€
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 24
Jack Herer was one of my first"bought" seeds... yeah its stinky, never grow her again...
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 22
wow, you can see the finishline...enjoy the last days/ weeks....greetings
OutForReal
OutForRealweek 13
Hey bro so about the flowering nutrient it's common to continue to give some grow nutrients during the 2 first weeks of flowering as it is the stret h phase and the plant will need plenty of nitrogen to makes new stems. However the flowering nutrition always provide some nitrogen so what you could do is to use the grow nuts during the 1st week then during then second use a mix of both to continue with the flowering only from week 3. But also keep an eye on the plant , as soon as you can see that she is stop growing vertically you can switch whatever the week is 😊😜
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@OutForReal, Hi mate it absolutely seems to be helping as I have not seen any signs of insect attack or mites etc and it's also a natural source of silica for the plants root system so very happy with the results so far. I am being fairly frugal with the watering on these girls as i want to keep the environment as dry as possible to combat mold because the pots are below ground level. I haven;t noticed any sign of stress as the days have been cooler latelyπŸ˜€
OutForReal
OutForReal
@DILLIGAF, Wow it's been 4weeks since our last talk bro , sorry I wasn't around ! Your plants are looking great now , do you think that diatomaceus heart did help ?
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@OutForReal, hi mate nah it's diatomaceous earth mixed with H2O and I gave one last foliar spray while I had the chance. I have been using it successfully on my vegie garden for years to deter bugs and the pesky wildlife from having a chew on my plants... seems to work really well for the vegetables so I am using on the weed too. Do you think I may need to remove some foliage at some stage ? Cheers
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DILLIGAF
DILLIGAFweek 17
How is it looking friends ???????????? 4 weeks into flowering
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy
@DILLIGAF, They're looking healthy. Though I'm a newbie, I've noticed that my plants (random bagseeds) just keep on layering the flowers (some at 9-10 weeks flowering and still going), so essentially it's like the inner parts are being cured so slightly lower THC (not significantly, considering the light exposure is low) but higher CBD/CBN, and the outer parts more THC (from my understanding). Another thing to consider there, as my plants are still bulking significantly and some are kinda bendy due to weight now. *Edit, sorry, didn't notice your mention of DE, which I've also used quite a bit of.
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAFweek 12
Thankyou @OutForReal I have taken your advice and tried to fill in the net completely I now have an area 1.6 metres by 1 metre pretty much fully covered
OutForReal
OutForReal
@DILLIGAF,haha That's awesome, Happy that I helped. I'm following the rest of the grow to see how it turns πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAFweek 24
Chopped the Jack herer today and fark it smells dank πŸ™€πŸ˜πŸ‘½
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguyweek 18
Personally I've also had some issues with heat and lack of sunlight, weather in general. Like peak temperatures for my plants exceed 30 degrees celsius normally, but they're obscured by walls, tall trees, experienced winds that have knocked over plants in 20l pots, torrential rain for like a week, etc. For light, simplest (apparently) thing was to use some reflective surfaces around them (in this case, white walls and white pots which helps reduce the pot heat too), which definitely seems to have helped for light...but, since that, it's also why peak temperatures can reach more than 40 degrees celsius almost daily for the ones not in pots, so it's a bit of a tradeoff (though I'm pretty sure it keeps a lot of pests away too). It does seem like it was worth it though and it's a nice indicator of how tough the plants are. For an example (21+ weeks, some plants approaching 4m, with about 60cm space around them, and barely flowering): https://growdiaries.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/static/post/photo/19262/917998_african-bagseedscustomsativa.jpg
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy
@DILLIGAF, yeah I've been using similar amounts of molasses and some other carbs, I've given my plants like bottlebrush and hibiscus teas too. (oils for microbes, some sugars and terpenes) and that combination smells absolutely incredible. It's like, the sweetest smelling stuff (in a good way) you can find.
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@@@Ssomeguy, yes I added some mollasses to my last feed I used about 2 spoonfuls per 9 litre watering can .. mix well then add the 10mls of monsta bud mix again and ph to 6.3ish
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy
@DILLIGAF, I can't quite remember, but did you add molasses recently? Yeah for support, another scrog layer would probably work, unfortunately it's a bit inconvenient considering circumstances for me.
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 23
They look ready... very well done, and you had some hail=? happy harvesting time
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@Mrs_Larimar, lol that's ok a lot of people mistakenly think of oz as all arid country but that is really only the interior desert country. I live in a southern area surrounded by forrests , rivers and we get about 1000mm of rain annually πŸ˜€
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@DILLIGAF, I think i have a weired imagination of australia.. and hail wont fit in "my picture" so i laugh about myself now...^^
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@Mrs_Larimar, Hi there yes we had some icy hail and terrible winds but the gods must be watching because we will now have 6 days of sunny weather so i will let them go until next sat and harvest @ 10 weeks Thanks for your lovely comments πŸ˜€πŸ‘
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 16
Its atunnel you grow into=? with opened endings=?. always let the endings open to give them airflow. I would pick away the small leaves in the bottom area and the tiny branches. Then you can tuck away all the leaves who block the light to the flowers, ( no so many because they get light from around). Iam no friend of heavy defoilationg and lollipoiing outdoor grows. There is no need to. You can take away all leaves you think blocking the light to the buds. Happy outdoor growing!!
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@Bigface, thanks for your input and sage advice mate πŸ˜ƒ πŸ‘
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@Mrs_Larimar, hi yes its a poly tunnel with 3 openings that I leave open unless rain comes Thankyou for the advice πŸ‘
Bigface
Bigface
@Mrs_Larimar, you have a fair point about heavy defoliation outdoors, as the sun comes from many angles, naturally allowing better light penetration to bud sites, than regular indoor lights hanging above canopy. Although a bushy plant is a bushy plant and will sure benefit from some defoliation to allow better air flow and space for buds to develop.
ROM101
ROM101week 16
Rip into the lower leaves mate you ain't going to need emπŸ‘
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy
@ROM101, unless he plans to reveg or clone...
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@ROM101, Hi mate yep I removed a heap of leaf material last week and they have bounced back pretty well
GrowBeforeHoe
GrowBeforeHoeweek 23
Beautiful flowers man! I'm kind of jealous ... πŸ˜‰ Keep Growing! πŸ‘
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@GrowBeforeHoe, thankyou mate πŸ˜ƒ
Bigface
Bigfaceweek 16
@DILLIGAF I'm sending good vibes your way! from your Canna brother from another mother, in the πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ .... πŸ™πŸΌβœŒοΈπŸ‘ŠπŸΌ
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@Bigface, thankyou my friend I need all the good vibes I can get πŸ˜†
Lindsay420
Lindsay420week 12
Nice lookin girl ya got there mate 😊 good ta see another aussie on here n yes your mates right should be seeing pre flowers now both my girls are starting to do there thing now looks like gonna be a good year downunder hopefully get nice late summer with any luck
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF
@Lindsay420, thanks mate πŸ‘
WAWAWEED
WAWAWEEDweek 24
niceπŸ’šπŸŒ±
Cannibalgardens
Cannibalgardensweek 24
Well this rare some good looking bud son that girl..
Bigface
Bigfaceweek 16
@DILLIGAF your plan to bring in that electric fan is sound, will help to keep humidity down and provide better circulation, preventing hotspots, and stale air pockets within the grow space. Helping you to keep late flower mould at bay, mould spores hate breezy conditions as they cannot settle.. although in Oz I'm sure it's going to be pretty dry and arid conditions even come late summer? I'd be in Ganga heaven if I had opportunity to utilise the great Aussie β˜€οΈ on my girls. Can't wait to see how these come along in the forthcoming weeks Regards Bigface