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White Widow Auto - First Real Grow

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LED/480W
Light
LED/480W
Light
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks 4, 6
Soil
Grow medium
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
White Widow Auto
Crop King Seeds
Growing it
Normal
Resistance
Neutral
Update: Things have been curing for about 30 days now so I've been digging into the jars and sampling some of plant 2 and plant 3. I turned plant 1 into what I'm calling hash oil, but I made it with the RSO method only I decarbed everything in the oven first. I'm not really sure if I should have used more alcohol and gotten more out of it but I got about 11 milliliters of hash oil using 32 ounces of 190 proof ethanol. I mixed some of it with some cacao butter and when I make edibles really potent they actually do have an effect on me. The sativa effects are really apparent when I eat the oil. The first time I ate it I ended up staying up about three hours later than I normally do which is the first time that's happened to me in over five years. The oil from plant 1 tastes amazing. It's fruity, piney, and I swear there's even a hint of wintergreen. Plant 2 smells like what I assume White Widow traditionally smells like. I've never actually vaped or smoked White Widow before this, but I went through about a half pound of Blue Widow last winter and it smells exactly like that, minus the blueberry. It's extremely similar to plant 1 in smell. If you didn't know they were different plants it would have been hard to tell them apart. Very fruity with hints of pine and wintergreen. Vaping/smoking plant 2 is all I've done with it and all I plan to do with it. The taste after curing is pretty good but not where I want it. If I paid for it I'd want a little bit of a discount for flavor alone. I think things dried too fast when I got worried about mold. It's definitely a lot better than plant 3, but you can tell an amateur grew it. The potency however is out of this world. I thought I had a high tolerance but with this stuff I can actually get "too high" if I do too much. The stuff I was buying before I started growing tastes infinitely better but the more you use the more tired and sedated you get, no matter which strain. This stuff just gets you higher and higher and higher the more you do. I tried vaping about a gram without stopping and I had to tap out. Plant 3 smells a lot better than it did right after harvest, but it still doesn't smell good to me in any way. The most accurate description I can give it is something super sour mixed with some garlic and a single square inch of a dryer sheet. My wife who doesn't smoke describes it as sour milk and garlic. I think it dried even faster than plant 2 because it has this awful kelp/fish food taste when I vape it that I know is coming from the leaf material and not the terpenes. Plant 3 isn't as dense as plant 2 which is why it probably dried out too fast. However, it's even more potent than plant 2. The potency is so amazing I'm willing to overlook the terrible taste, which again, I think came from drying too fast, not from genetics. Just for frame of reference for what kind of weed I'm used to, my provider (this is all according to him so it could be complete BS) gets his clones from someone that won the Michigan Cannabis Cup and that same guy mentored him (they're family) and taught him everything about growing. He's spoiled me with what I'm used to when it comes to taste. --- Before I get into details of the harvest, I just wanted to note that the way I did this grow journal was intended to help the next person that was overwhelmed by all of the details of growing, but still wants to take a shot at it. Growing is something I've been passionately interested in for a long time, but it just seemed too overwhelming to me. Seeing the entire grow process broken down week by week and seeing the details that people look for in their journals helped me a lot, so I wanted to make this journal as helpful as I could for people like me. In the future my journals probably won't be as well-documented as this one. Losses to mold were minimal. I probably scrapped about 15-20% of plant 1 and no other mold showed up anywhere else. I'm thinking the humidity got up too high in the 24 hours of dark before chopping so I'm going to avoid dark period before chopping unless I can get the humidity stable at 30% during the dark period. I really don't know if the mold should have been better or worse so I'm just saying this strain has neutral resistance. I need more grows under my belt to know if it's actually resistant or easy to grow. Plants 1 and 2 are somewhat similar in smells, very fruity and if you leave your nose in the jar it turns into a lavender smell with a hint of camphor. Plant 2 had a grape smell going when it was growing but now that it's dry, that grape smell is completely gone. Plant 3 smells like straight up cheese in the worst possible way. It's the worst smelling weed I've ever smelled in my entire life, but it's every bit as potent as anything I've ever encountered. I have a severe dairy allergy so if I take a big whiff of anything that smells even a little bit like dairy, it makes me gag. Plant 3 literally makes me gag if my leave my nose in the jar. Plant 3 is so close to having a chemdawg smell profile but it's like it's just missing one really important terpene that makes the gas/mothball smell appealing. The taste is luckily a lot better than the smell, and the potency makes me just fine with how it smells. I'm some kind of weirdo that can't tell a difference between a sedating strain and energizing strain. I've yet to encounter a single strain that has ever given me energy, but I always have ~10mg of CBD in my system, so that might have something to do with it. I haven't experimented too much with any of the plants yet because I want them cured before I start digging in, so take these descriptions with a grain of salt. Plant 1 is just a standard "mild high" and I think I'm going to make an alcohol extraction like RSO out of it so I can have a odor-free method of consumption, plus that should kill any mold that remains. Plant 2 has more of what I assume to be a "sativa" high because I notice I can't sit at my computer for very long after vaping it. I just feel like there's stuff to do and I HAVE to get it done after vaping plant 2. Plant 3 has a full body melt kind of high where lifting your arms feels like something you should be getting paid to do. I might have just been really tired when I tried plant 3 though. I went really light on trimming since I only use a vaporizer and edibles do nothing for me so weights might be a tiny bit higher than normal. Plant 1 produced 67 grams. Plant 2 produced 93 grams. And plant 3 produced 107 grams.
The Outcome
Week 12
Harvest
What's on the scales?
267.05
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
Harvested
3
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.45
ft²
Grow Room size
0.56
g / watt
593.44
g / m²
89.02
g / plant
6.67
plant / m²
1066.67
watt / m²
Tastes like
Cheese
Fruity
Pine
Feels like
90% Sativa 10% Indica

Positive effects

Euphoric
Happy
Relaxed
Nutrients
This is probably what "saved" my grow from over watering, improper pH from a cheap pH pen, nutrient burn, and any other problem a noob can create.
Not a fan. I didn't realize you really have to pay attention to the fact that it has N in it. Next grow I'll get some cal/mag with as little nitrogen in it as possible because using an LED light without any far red diodes means I HAVE to supplement cal/mag with every watering.
The buds are big and potent. Not the best smelling buds, but that might have more to do with the grower than the nutrients. The stems on all of the plants were like oak limbs thanks to the Armor Si. It's good because then the plant knows it can stack on the weight, but it's bad because when you're drying you can't really bend the stems to test them for dryness.
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Sublime374 Sublime374
4 years ago
Before I get into details of the harvest, I just wanted to note that the way I did this grow journal was intended to help the next person that was overwhelmed by all of the details of growing, but still wants to take a shot at it. Growing is something I've been passionately interested in for a long time, but it just seemed to overwhelming to me. Seeing the entire grow process broken down week by week and seeing the details that people look for in their journals helped me a lot, so I wanted to make this journal as helpful as I could for people like me. In the future my journals probably won't be as well-documented as this one. Losses to mold were minimal. I probably scrapped about 15-20% of plant 1 and no other mold showed up anywhere else. I'm thinking the humidity got up to high in the 24 hours of dark before chopping so I'm going to avoid dark period before chopping unless I can get the humidity stable at 30% during the dark period. I really don't know if the mold should have been better or worse so I'm just saying this strain has neutral resistance. I need more grows under my belt to know if it's actually resistant or easy to grow. Plants 1 and 2 are somewhat similar in smells, very fruity and if you leave your nose in the jar it turns into a lavender smell with a hint of camphor. Plant 2 had a grape smell going when it was growing but now that it's dry, that grape smell is completely gone. Plant 3 smells like straight up cheese in the worst possible way. It's the worst smelling weed I've ever smelled in my entire life, but it's every bit as potent as anything I've ever encountered. I have a severe dairy allergy so if I take a big whiff of anything that smells even a little bit like dairy, it makes me gag. Plant 3 literally makes me gag if my leave my nose in the jar. Plant 3 is so close to having a chemdawg smell profile but it's like it's just missing one really important terpene that makes the gas/mothball smell appealing. The taste is luckily a lot better than the smell, and the potency makes me just fine with how it smells. I'm some kind of weirdo that can't tell a difference between a sedating strain and energizing strain. I've yet to encounter a single strain that has ever given me energy, but I always have ~10mg of CBD in my system, so that might have something to do with it. I haven't experimented too much with any of the plants yet because I want them cured before I start digging in, so take these descriptions with a grain of salt. Plant 1 is just a standard "mild high" and I think I'm going to make an alcohol extraction like RSO out of it so I can have a odor-free method of consumption, plus that should kill any mold that remains. Plant 2 has more of what I assume to be a "sativa" high because I notice I can't sit at my computer for very long after vaping it. I just feel like there's stuff to do and I HAVE to get it done after vaping plant 2. Plant 3 has a full body melt kind of high where lifting your arms feels like something you should be getting paid to do. I might have just been really tired when I tried plant 3 though. I went really light on trimming since I only use a vaporizer and edibles do nothing for me so weights might be a tiny bit higher than normal. Plant 1 produced 67 grams. Plant 2 produced 93 grams. And plant 3 produced 107 grams.
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Grow Questions
Sublime374
Sublime374started grow question 5 years ago
Is the white stuff in the pictures mildew? If it is, what should I do to sanitize my tent?
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Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stixanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hard to see from the picture but if your fliter was there then it is probably dust. It is always a good idea to keep your tent disinfected anyway though. You can wipe everything down with clorox wipes to disinfect it.
Sublime374
Sublime374started grow question 5 years ago
Does the issue on the leaves look like a magnesium deficiency, or something else? On plant 1, the worst looking leaves are crispy and seem thicker than other leaves, but the set of leaves below that one is still green and soft, and in shade.
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Philindicus
Philindicusanswered grow question 5 years ago
Looks like the beginning of a magnesium deficiency. With my autos I usually start giving cal/mag week 4 at 0.5 ml per liter. It usually works out fine. Your lights are very strong so adding in the cal/mag helps them deal with light stress better . Hard to tell in your photos but your pots look pretty dry make sure you are giving them enough water and nutrients. They are large enough to give them a good watering but don't soak the whole pot. Start a nice wet dry watering cycle on her letting her dry out a bit between waterings. It will force the roots to grow deeper in the pot looking for moisture. Also if possible try to lower you ph to 5.8 to 6.2 which would be ideal for the best nutrient absorption. Up to 6.5 ph is acceptable for soil. If the magnesium issue starts to present itself on new leaves You can use 1/4 teaspoon of Epsom salt (Magnesium Sulfate) in 1 quart of water and use it as a fine spray solution once a week. Be sure to get under the leaves. Also try to spray at lights out to avoid burn spots on your leaves or early morning before the lights come on then leave a fan blowing on the plant until it drys then it can handle the light. The existing deficiency on the leaf may not improve or change go by the newer leaf growth. Good luck👌
Sublime374
Sublime374started grow question 4 years ago
Can I salvage any of the buds from a plant with bud rot? I'm not seeing any actual fuzz anywhere on the plant besides where I took that picture, could I throw out that bud and keep the rest? Should I take everything from that plant out of the dry tent so it doesn't spread?
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MarcXL
MarcXLanswered grow question 4 years ago
You should definitely put that bud and the buds next to it out of the tent but be careful not to shake that bud to prevent massive spore release. Take some time and carefully watch all the other buds for signs of mould and do this daily. I would advise to dismantle the bigger buds to prevent more mould and dry them on a rack. Thats one of the options you have to make sure enough air can flow around those big dense buds. Better dismantle before risking more mould and a bigger loss.
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 12
Just cut the bud with the rot generously, and check the other plants often, b4cause this Girls grow very dense and its hard to discover rot... if you see wilting sugarleaves is a sign for something going on
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@@Sublime374,well done.... hope its only the one part that you throw away
Sublime374
Sublime374
@Mrs_Larimar, Thanks. I kind of opened up every part of the bud with mold and deep inside it was getting fuzzy all over so I threw out the entire bud. I washed my hands in between touching buds I thought might have mold and anything else. The weird thing is with the white areas on the buds is that I'm pretty sure it's just "albino" plant material that never got any light because it's not fuzzy with anything but trichomes as far as I can tell. I'm going to let the buds with the white areas just dry in their own corner of the house and see if those areas turn into mold.
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 4
Hope my answer to your grow question helped you out. Feel free to message me anytime. Look forward to following your grow.👍
Philindicus
Philindicus
@@Sublime374, I've seen a lot of great grows using the GH Flora line up. With the LED if your going to to do a lot of growing you may want to think about getting a good PPF/PAR meter to measure the intensity of your lights at different distances. Their not cheap but they take away the guess work.
Sublime374
Sublime374
@Philindicus, Thanks, I appreciate it. I looked around at some other reviews of the light I'm using and some seasoned growers have suggested increasing cal/mag when using it. I had an overwatering problem in the beginning and now I'm watering about every four days but I've got a fan blowing on the pots so the top dries out quickly because I've had some fungus gnats. Next time I water I'll just do 2ml of cal/mag in a gallon of 6.2 water. New growth looks healthy and happy but I want to keep it that way.
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 9
I would try to treat each plant indiviually. They may have different feeding and watering schedules. Personally on my current grow I went from growing 4 plants to 7 plants and lost track of who got what. They were all drinking at different rates. I discovered I forgot to feed one plant. Which caused an issue.Now I write everything down. For some reason in my mind I expected to water and feed them all at once. Not the case.
Sublime374
Sublime374
@Philindicus, Thanks. I've got a whiteboard in the grow room that helps me keep track of watering and feeding. Each plant is getting slightly different nutes at this point and I water them when they start to look thirsty. I watch the big fan leaves to know if they're thirsty. Last time I watered they all just happened to get thirsty on the same day, except 4. I'll give plant 4 about a liter of water when I do water it. It's yellowing so fast I'm really giving up on it, but that's ok, because I'm starting my next seeds in about a week and I'll need the space.
MaxwellSH
MaxwellSHweek 12
Awesome buds Mate👍
ElChicoDelaWeed
ElChicoDelaWeedweek 10
big :)
Inquisitor
Inquisitorweek 11
Holy Crap Dude!!! Looking good haha. They look like they are going to be very nice when they are done... consider me sub'd with a chair and popcorn. 👌
Sublime374
Sublime374week 1
Thanks GreenMachine, I posted a clearer picture. I'll give it a wipe down tomorrow with some clorox just to be safe.
Lancemosh
Lancemosh
@@Sublime374,I cannot rubbing and they’re very green they look very healthy but growing very slow there in a 5 gallon in a 3 gallon pots how do you send a picture on there so you can see the plants can you do that
Sublime374
Sublime374
@Lancemosh, A lot of times slow growth is caused by over watering. Check out this website and see if it helps: https://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-plant-problems/overwatering The other thing that can stunt a plant's growth is if the container it's in is too small. Plants that are older than 3 weeks should be in at least a 3-gallon pot.
Lancemosh
Lancemosh
My White widowauto flower plant is week four from seedAnd it’s very small can you tell me why
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Sublime374
Sublime374week 12
Just another update. I looked closely at some pictures and the mold was on plant 1 before it went into the harvest tent, which means the grow tent was exposed to mold. So I wiped every square inch of the grow tent with bleach wipes, let it air out for a couple hours, moved plants 2 and 3 to the main tent so that I could wipe down the harvest tent the same way. Now I've got the harvest tent with a floor fan blowing into it to make sure it's totally aired out because I don't want that smell getting in the bud. When that's aired out I'll move plants 2 and 3 back to the harvest tent so that tomorrow I can get started in the main tent with the seeds that I popped. Oh yeah, counting is hard, I actually have 9 seeds. I completely took apart every cola on plant 1. Every bud has been pulled apart and while there isn't any mold visible, there's lots of the "albino" plant material in areas that never got any light. It looks like after that white material gets exposed to air for a while it to turns a dark reddish brown, like bud rot. I'm assuming it's bud rot waiting to happen but I'll just have to keep an eye on it and see. All of plant 1 is far away from the harvest area. All of the materials used when trimming and harvesting have been cleaned or thrown out. I went in and cut one of the "twin buds" off of plant 2 because that's the kind of area that has all of the albino growth on plant 1. The part of that bud that was growing into its "twin" has some of that same albino growth. If it is bud rot, I'm hoping that's the only part on plant 2 with it. The area where plant 1 got moldy is kind of a dead zone for air flow so I'm trying to stay optimistic that it's going to be contained to that one bit of bud, but that albino growth is telling me something isn't right. I'll update when there's more to update.
Sublime374
Sublime374week 1
@Majormolasses Right now I've got the light (HLG 550 v2) turned all the way down and daytime temps are around 75 with it falling as low as 66 at night. With the new humidifier I put in the tent, the humidity is remaining much more stable, around 50-60% at all times. I keep a tower fan running 24/7 in addition to the exhaust fan that's pulling about 250 CFM. I had a filter over my intake vent but I noticed the walls of the tent were getting sucked in so I just have what's basically a hair net over the intake to catch any dust bunnies or anything like that, so fresh air should always be flowing in without a problem. There was one time when I forgot to turn the tower fan back on (I turn it off to spray water on the soil) and the humidity got up to about 80% for a couple of hours, but I don't know if the air up higher was actually that wet. It was right after I got done spraying water and the thermometer/hydrometer was directly on the pot I watered. I also have two clip-on fans above my light to push hot air towards the exhaust fan, but it really doesn't produce much heat so I've been using them to push hot air down to the plants. My tent is in my basement, but it's not a true basement. The side of the basement my tent is on isn't below ground. The basement is usually 5 or 6 degrees colder than the rest of the house but the humidity is the same throughout. Keeping my temp high enough is the biggest challenge I've had so far which is why I use the clip-on fans to push the hot air down. So yeah, there's lots of air flow in the tent. All of that air flow is why I'm more and more confident it was just mineral dust from running the old humidifier. Also, after removing that humidifier there's no longer any kind of smell that resembles mildew. Thanks for the advice :)