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El Patron by RQS, Nutes by Green Buzz

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Indoor
Room Type
Main-Lining
weeks 13
Defoliation
weeks 13
ScrOG
weeks 13-14
Topping
weeks 13-14
LST
weeks 14
Soil
Grow medium
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
El Patron
Royal Queen Seeds
Growing it
Normal
Resistance
Strong
After 11 days drying was mostly done, so i trimmed one plant at first to test curing. Humidity settled to 68% so I gave them two more dayd drying in the dark at about 18°C and 50% humidity. After that I reached about 64% without and 62% humidity with bovedas. The other 3 plants went into jars untrimmed as I went sick. One week later I trimmed the other three plants and got about 210g dried "el patron". They are now curing for at least 4 weeks, but most of it will cure for minimum 10 weeks as I don´t need much at one time. After now 2 weeks the smell changed a lot. Now you can get much more taste out of these buds. The smell is now lots of haze combined with woody and herbal components, maybe oak-wood. The budy are really frosty and very tasteful when vaped or smoked. As I prefer vaping I tried some in the pax 3 and the crafty. Best taste at about 180°C in the crafty, there you´ll get most taste. For the turn, at 170 to 175°C it is a maximum head trip. Very energetic and euphoric high but very strong and lasts for about 2 hours before softening. Me personally had some problems to speak properly at the first two sessions, that hard it hit me. At about 190°C the trip is also powerful, but less energetic and more chilling and relaxing high with some stoned effects. But also nice uplifting high. With some good music ( I recommend Nightwish ) this is some awesome stuff to enjoy. Just now I´m in this special mood and listening to Élan by Nightwish writing this test and couldn´t be happier. About growing them: First I learned is that they aren´t very hungry when it comes to nutrition. For my organic nutrition line I first used recommendation of the manufacturer, but that wasd too much for them. Next time I wil try half dose until they show signs of undernutrition. They aren´t fast and high growers, they stayed relatively small under topping and main-lining. I wonder what would have happended without any training. I am sure there is much more potential in yield than my result of about 330g/m². I only feared the height as I think they are more on the sativa side and I didn´t want to risk getting plants that reaches over 130cm in height. But with that training no one got over 90 cm of height. Until now I found no single seed in any buds. When it comes to phenos, I can´t really make a difference between them except for the one with the doubled pistils. She got the smallest amount of dried weed, about 12g less than the other ones in average. But the taste is mostly the same, also the turn. Overall It was a nice and interesting grow, I´ve learned a lot about this strain. The smoke is nice and tasteful, the effect is what I expected but stronger. I´m not disappointed, no, I am very happy about it. 😁
The Outcome
Week 15
Harvest
What's on the scales?
210
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
620
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
4
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.64
ft²
Grow Room size
0.68
g / watt
328.13
g / m²
52.5
g / plant
6.25
plant / m²
484.38
watt / m²
Tastes like
Herbs
Pine
Woody
Feels like
80% Sativa 20% Indica

Positive effects

Energetic
Euphoric
Uplifted

Negative effects

Insomnia
Nutrients
This nutrition line is awesome. Fully organic products, easy to use, very effective, highly concentrated. Never needed such tiny amounts of nutes so far. Plants loved it, be careful, it´s powerful stuff. Will definitely use this stuff again. Great job, Green Buzz!💪
Lights
What a fantastic light in relation to its price. Worked well through the whole cycle, gave me lots of dense buds.
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MarcXL MarcXL
4 years ago
At harvest day I just cut off the stem and let them dry hanging over as complete plant and will trim them afterwards. Smell is killing me, whole house is smelling like haze. Had a lot of work to separate the roots off the soil.
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Grow Questions
MarcXL
MarcXLstarted grow question 5 years ago
As you can see on some pics of week 5 the 2 topped girls developed curled leaves. PH is about 6.4, EC unknown and I can't measure. Organic nutrition, lowered dose as some leaves were on the darker green side. I water them about all 5 days with 1500ml water
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Leaves. Curl down
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Philindicus
Philindicusanswered grow question 5 years ago
Your plants definately are clawing I would stop giving them all nutrients. If it was my grow I would give the ones that are clawing a bit of a flush until my runoff ppms were in the 600-750 range regardless of the fact that you are using organic nutes. Then let them dry out a bit before the next watering if the leaves straighten out before your next watering add 1/2 strength nutes. If they continue to recover then increase the nutrients gradually. What wasn't clear was it sounds like you water every 5 days? is that correct? If that is the case what may be happening is you may be waiting too long to water and as the soil dries out the concentration of the nutrients increases in the soil causing the toxicity. I would get a TDS meter to monitor the runoff ppms and ph in the future to make sure your plants are feeding on what your putting into them and it's not building up in the pots. Try to check your runoff once a week. You can either lower your nutes and feed every time or alternate with plain water in between feedings. Hope this helps.👍
MarcXL
MarcXLstarted grow question 4 years ago
Asking all the Green Buzz Liquid growers: What experience did you make with clean fruits? Is it required to use clean fruits with flushing or is it okay just to water the girls with that additive without producing drain? I mean, normally no need to flush organic nutes, right? 😁
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 4 years ago
Beeing organic or not, its no fun to smoke Nutrients. Ihave watered a few Girls with the " Clean Fruits" i did not water untl drain... but arouhd 5 litr for a20 l pot. ( slowly) and i cound see a few days later, that the leaves discolouring drasticly... i dont know how it works but it works. And the Grower PharmaZ wrote something to Clean fruits too.....He wrote something like he had eatn a leaf before flushing and after ( few days later) and the taste of the leaf changed . After flush the leaf only tstd like chloophyll iam looking to write it down in the comments
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MarcXL
MarcXLweek 5
Thank you both @Philindicus and @CRiSPrGrow for your interesting answers. I'll take another closer look at the ladies tomorrow. I water my girl when needles, I feel the pots and their weight, I'll let them nearly dry and give them 1.5L water every 4 to 5 days. My water is bottled, the pH is corrected to about 6.5. My roots went to the pot edges about day 25, the soil I use is Atami Bi grow. The 2 main-lined had no problems, only the 2 topped girls. They need more water due to more leaves so they get more. But they never sit in overwatered pots. I use mykorrhiza/bacterias by Green Buzz Liquids as recommended, also giving hinidic acid by Green Buzz Liquid as recommended. So hopefully I have no mold at my roots. So it seems I could need a E. - meter to measure the drain. I have to give them about 3 Liters of water to produce any drain, twice the amount of water I usually give them.
Philindicus
Philindicus
@MarcXL, Sorry I misinterpreted your photos I thought you did HST on all of them my mistake. I checked out your other grows you definately are another talented grower on GD👍
Philindicus
Philindicus
@MarcXL, Sorry TLC it is an abbreviation for Tender,Loving,Care. I'm not sure if it would translate properly it can be a bit of an issue unfortunately since GD has growers from all over the world on the site.
MarcXL
MarcXL
@Philindicus, can you tell me what is TLC? Sometimes it's not easy for me to understand everything cause Englisch isn't my native language.
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 1
Enjoy the "el Patron Grow" iam very courious how the new strain turns out. i think the plant got a well deserved #1 at the "Highlife Cup"
Spaceman
Spaceman
@MarcXL, hi, I know but it reads like she got to smoke it .. no?
MarcXL
MarcXL
@@Spaceman, there was an article in the RQS blog.
Spaceman
Spaceman
@Mrs_Larimar, how do you know? 😲
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 14
IMPRESSING GROW!!. That got to be shouted^^ thats budporn pure..... very well done
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 13
Just Beautiful i like the pictures of the leaves
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 8
Great show...... thank you for sharing
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 7
wow they look great
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 5
They look great... and nice Nutrients😉
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 4
Looking very Good, enjoy your Grow, and awsome Nutrient Line.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 6
They look great. I agree " Fast Buds" from @GreenBuzzNutrients let the Flowers appear earlier.
MarcXL
MarcXL
@GreenBuzzNutrients, I used seeds, I know its not the perfect base to compare, but my limited space (as I have to hide them) doesn´t allow me tu hold mother plants.
GreenBuzzNutrients
GreenBuzzNutrients
@MarcXL, thats very nice, we love 1:1 with same genetics from cuttings? Or do you use seeds for the test?
MarcXL
MarcXL
@Mrs_Larimar,I think you are right, these are two different nutrition lines, one is customizable but you have to know what to do, the other one is use it and forget it. I just wanna find out if it's worth to use customizable nutrition over all-in-one products.
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GreenBuzzNutrients
GreenBuzzNutrientsweek 2
If, despite the feeding of the basic fertilizer (s) for every second casting (especially in the case of Automatic plants), the plants have a deep green leaf color, the basic fertilizer should be reduced by about 50% but maintained every other casting. If the tips of the leaves only slightly clenched upward, it is usually enough already from the fertilizer at the second casting (and possibly even in the third casting process which anyway again without N-P-K supply) are exposed once exposed and continued with selbiger dosage. If this is not enough, the dosage of the basic fertilizer can be reduced by about 30%. If, on the other hand, leaves have deflected downwards, the causes for this must first be adapted to the environmental conditions / environmental factors. Is the substrate ggfl. too wet / or permanently too wet, or is this not regularly mulched on, so that more oxygen and air occurred on the surface of the earth? Is the soil on which the plants are insulated if it is cold or is the soil temperature not too cold? Has the earth been selected high enough that it does not sink / sink too much? If one of these factors is true, it can - depending on the species - cause the plant to adapt its nutrient uptake and its adaptation to the most minimal or worst factor that plants practically develop a Toxic Nutrient Enrichment. If all environmental factors are within limits, genetics simply do not consume as much as the average and you should find your own dosage for that variety with its specific nutritional requirements and, if necessary, deviate significantly from the requirements in the Growing Schedule.
GreenBuzzNutrients
GreenBuzzNutrients
@MarcXL, The more you eat the single plant, the better you can control the nutrient supply. Always raise the plants after the first repotting for the first 2 weeks daily, so you can better understand which plant needs which amount and adjust it accordingly in terms of the different amounts of water and nutrients. You can also sting 2 mixtures, 1 light for the plants that have less transpiration / conversion flux and a higher one for the thirstier girls. Treating all plants the same way is always a mistake because it only permeates its selective interventions, and the plant in itself takes too little attention as an individual of a living being. If you pay more attention next time, you will develop a different bond and a more personal relationship with each individual female.
MarcXL
MarcXL
@GreenBuzzNutrients, I try to find the right amount of nutrition but every plant seems to have different needs. But that's okay, they aren't cuts but seeds, everyone with different needs. I'll learn and master that in future.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 15
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! did @James saw them=?
MarcXL
MarcXL
@Mrs_Larimar, sure, he gets pictures every week.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 13
Ich habe leider das original zitat nicht mehr gefunden aber ich glaube es war PharmaZ.....ich glaube es war im sticky beast diary... aaah eben gesehn er hat da auch was in deinem diry gepostet
MarcXL
MarcXL
@Mrs_Larimar, danke für die Info, meine Absicht war es, auch mal wieder eine Frage für den Grower of the Month contest zu erstellen. Und wie ich sehe bist auch dieses Mal wieder gut dabei, wirst wohl definiv wieder unter den Top 3 sein. Und natürlich Glückwunsch für den altuellen Contest Oktober, mal wieder sauber abgeliefert.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 12
Maaan Marc they lok gorgeous.... very well done
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 11
Wow, very beautiful....
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 10
they look great!!!
Hasard
Hasardweek 3
Nice topping. Good luck !
Buddha2
Buddha2week 2
Looks great! In my opinion all of the four plants are doing great. I would not be concerned about the curly leaves. All my plants looked like this at the same stage, but turned out great in the end. My theory is that this curling is caused by the exceptionally fast growth. But it is just a theory 😉
TheBudMan
TheBudManweek 1
So jealous, can't wait to try this one.
GreenBuzzNutrients
GreenBuzzNutrientsweek 1
Thank you very much for sharing an other new Diarie with our 100% organic product range. We wish you maximum success with your El Patron Grow.
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billweek 1
Nice and prepared. ⭐🧠⭐