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Troy_McClure Troy_McClure
4 years ago
Expected dates: - feb. 28 (week 8) - expected cloudy trichomes: - feb. 28 (week 8) - expected flush date: - mar. 8 -expected harvest date Feb. 24 - ph: 6.5 - All is good, continued damage from before, leaves yellowing, mostly crispy, underneath top canopy is light green even on buds, very happy with the trichomes on both plants - Plucked a bunch of crusty old leave, plant 2 hangs on to them and plant 1 lets then go easily feb. 25 - still pretty clear trichomes on both, maybe 50-60% cloudy inside the trichome, and of the trichomes maybe 30% are in that range of cloudiness - ph. 6.7 - some leaves still falling off of plant 1 feb.26 - plants really smelling good and nugs are fattening by the day, mostly orange pistils now not many white, getting more trichomes too - more dead leaves but lots came off easy - ph:7 feb. 27 - ph: 7 - moist - leaves curling up and praying still for plant 2 - plant 1 still has some burns and leaves falling off / getting plucked - the rest of the plants look really good, except some nutrient burn and some wind burn in certain areas - very dense, very trichome filled plant 2, while plant 1 is lighter but bigger overall in nug size - both buds look really good - trichomes are now cloudy, about 80% of the trichomes are cloudy, and they are up to about 60% cloudy inside, as a very rough estimate - plant 2 does seem to be a bit more cloudy - very happy with the grow so far :) - I will flush tomorrow and harvest 7-10 days later when i get about 20%+ amber trichomes - I will give 48H of darkness also and harvest in the dark when dry Cloudy Trichomes : - Feb. 27 - 80% of trichomes are 20-80% cloudy Flush date: - Feb. 28 - 15 gallons of water for each pot - ph: 6.5 +/-0.1 - Dutch Nutrient Clear will be used - 2tsp per gallon - x5 gal = 10tsp = 50ml - first 5 gallon bucket - 40ml of clear in second 5 gallon bucket - 30ml of clear in third 5 gallon bucket - shop vac excess water into 4th 5gal bucket and dump it as it fills Harvest day: - Mar. 7 - 36H of darkness from Mar. 5 @7:00am until Mar.7 @6:45pm - watering schedule - flush feb.28 - water mar. 4 - 1.5gal each - harvest dry on mar. 7 Drying: - Mar. 7-17+ - take off the fan leaves and everything thatโ€™s dead is going to be a bit of a wet trim and dry trim - hang on second scrod net - smaller stems with bugs than larger - lights off - rh: 60% - mini fans below on low - intake/exhuast fans on lowest setting 1 - temp will likely be between 64-73 Curing: - Mar. 17+ - April 7+ - I will try it after dry, after 1 week, after 2,3, and then continue to cure it - I have integra boost packs at 62% and 12x 32oz ball jars Feb. 28 - ph: 7.5 - Dry - 5 gal + 50ml of โ€œclearโ€ (6.92) + 18ml of apple cider vinegar = 6.2 - 5 gal + 40ml of โ€œclearโ€ (7.0) +18ml of apple cider vinegar = 6.3 - 5 gal + 30ml of โ€œclearโ€ (7.15) + 18ml of apple cider vinegar = 6.4 - 4gal of run-off = 6.0 ph - 2nd 4th gal of run-off 6.3 - 2nd round 30 min later - 5 gal + 50ml of โ€œclearโ€ + 18ml of apple cider vinegar = 6.5 - 5 gal + 40ml of โ€œclearโ€ (7.0) +18ml of apple cider vinegar = 6.6 - 5 gal + 30ml of โ€œclearโ€ (7.15) + 18ml of apple cider vinegar = 6.6 - All run-off was 6.5 after - Entire flush took 2 hours with a little break in between - The shop vac made it the easiest thing mar. 1 - all trichomes are cloudy - buds smell fantastic and the smell is only noticeable when you come inside the house for a moment, and randomly by vents here or thereโ€ฆ after a second or two its gone - soil is still wet for probably a few more days - some leaves are yellowing in the lower growth Specifications:๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘‡ Seeds: - 2x White Widow feminized seeds from Crop King Seed Tent: - 4x4x6 Mammoth Grow tent LED: - 2x Spider Farmer SF1000 LED for veg - 4x Spider Farmer SF1000 LED for flower (190 watts - 50-40-50-50 back left, back right, front left, front right) Pots: - 2x 0.5 L starter pots - 2x 5 gal smart pots after transplant Soil: - Pro-mix containing mycorrhizae and perlite, used for starter pots and mixed at roughly 1:3 ratio with Ocean Forest - Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil, used in the 5 gallon pots and mixed with roughly 3:1 ratio with pro-mix - note: pro mix was mixed thoroughly with ocean forest in the 5 gal pot, then pro-mix was used on the top layer, in and around where the transplant will be to help the early veg stage avoid getting too "hot" via nutrients. Nutrients: - Fox Farm Big Bloom - Fox Farm Big Grow - Fox Farm Tiger Bloom - Wholesome - Blackstrap organic unsulphured molasses Inline Fans: - AC Infinity CLOUDLINE T6 6" (exhaust) - AC infinity CLOUDLINE S6 6" (active intake) - AC infinity 6" ducting Mini fans: - 2x Wind Devil 6" fans Carbon Filter: - 2x iPower Carbon Filter on both inline fans - note: carbon filter on intake fan as basement had mold issues in furnace room far removed but same floor, some mold issue in other room, cat litter in basement, thus, avoiding all risks and sleeping sound at night :) all mold was killed, scrubbed, cleaned, sprayed, painted, and sprayed again before setting up. Humidifier: - TaoTronics Cool Mist Humidifier Dehumidifier: - Frigidaire 30-Pint 3-Speed Dehumidifier Timers: - 2x VIVOSUN dual Digital Timer - 2x Kuman Digital Timer
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Grow Questions
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClurestarted grow question 4 years ago
My grow tent drops down to 65 (75-80 with the fan on low settings during 16 hour light cycles) during the off 8 hours of the light cycle, I would like to establish a more consistent temperature, or at least ideally keep the grow tent closer to 70 while the lights are off. How?
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 4 years ago
hi, iam using small Infrared heater with thermostate to keep the Temps around 70 degree. Those little ones are doing great. Ive choosen one with only 300 watts to save my electricity bill. And it wents on if temperatures are dropping. ........But you can start with extern conditions.. do you have aplace that is wamer=? can you " isolate" the Tent=?for outside with styropor// cardboard//And last solution is giving her external heat from a heater...
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClurestarted grow question 4 years ago
What should I do about the old leaves? likely ph imbalance and/or nute deficiency (Phosphorus -redding older stems + browning of dry leaves) and Nitrogen- slow light green new growth) - the issues seem to be resolved, but the leaves are flaking almost. mostly referring to plant 2
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Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 4 years ago
I would remove them, remember whatever damage that has been done due to a deficiency will stay that way ... Plus having dead leaves around can leave room to invite unwanted insects to your environment because they love to feed on the dying leaves.
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClurestarted grow question 4 years ago
soil ph is erratic fox farm ocean forest : pro-mix (3:1) - ph 6.3-6.8 run-off ph: plant 2: 4-6 plant 1: 5-6.8 watering / feed ph: 6.3-6.45 soil ph after water /feed: 5-7 soil ph when dry: 7.5-8 both plants treated 100% the same phosphorus deficiency / ph imbalance help please
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
Leaves. Color - Dark-brown
Plant. Stem - Red or purple
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JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hello there. PH mal-adjustment with, what looks like, a P/Cal deficiency. I also used Ocean Forest in my first grow because the pre-nutrient amended soil was attractive to me, but it kind of hurt more then it helped. Same as you, I ran into almost constant pH problems when using OC and it frustrated me endlessly (ended up using a neutral soil for the last 2 gallons for last pot up). Good news, I wouldn't panic over this too much. Changes need to made, probably some trial and error, but they will come back. Red/purple stems can be a symptom of P deficiency but I see your night temps are around 19 degrees Celsius and could this can also change the colors of your stems, laterals and leaf veins. Copper spotting does not look like splash back to me at all. I feel you're looking at a phosphorous and calcium deficiency. The uptake of these nutrients is optimal at 6.2 and with the current swings in your pH (and also work in conjunction with one another), I don't think the plant is taking much of it up. You can give it as much as you'd like, but she just may not be having it. Suggested solution: (Same thing I did to mitigate and remedy the same symptoms) Next feed (or two) I would simply "flush through" a good amount of pH balanced water @ 6.2-6.4. I would not recommend over-compensating and feeding anything about 6.6 as this may fix one problem while creating another (possible lockout of other essential nutrients). In these "flush throughs" I add my phosphorus blooming supplement with cal/mag (Usually 3/4 dose. Trust your gut, though). This way, you can properly flush out excess salts/nutrients/developing pathogens while not starving her of the P and Cal she desperately wants right now. After a couple consecutive flush throughs, you should notice the pH start to balance itself out. When you return to normal feeding (if pH is back in order) I would also suggest watching how much Nitrogen supplementation you give the ladies. Micro nutrients that work along side Nitrogen, like zinc, copper and iron, can interrupt the uptake of P and Cal/Sulfur and keep the soil mal-adjusted (uptake of these nutrients is around 5.5-5.7). OC medium is hard to gauge when it comes to Nitrogen. It's highly amended with these macro/micro nutrients and can certainly cause trouble. There are no hard answers to this question, but rather a roadmap to possible remedies over time. Your girls will be just fine. Just need a little tweaking!๐Ÿ‘ I hope this helped my friend. If this is the answer you're looking for there is no need to "pick" it. Remove the question and keep it for another day๐Ÿ˜‰ (Weird how there's a time frame limitation to questions...I don't understand why). Cheers and good luck, no matter what course of action you take!!โœŠ
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClurestarted grow question 4 years ago
Harvest on Mar.7, any tips or tricks welcome. I plan on watering just 1.5 gal each on Mar. 4, turn off the lights for 36H Mar. 5 @7:00am-Mar.7 @6:45pm (15 min before lights on normally) I hope that the soil is dry for harvest. cut down small stems, hang, remove dead leaves, dry
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 4 years ago
Hello, If you want to go with drytrimming you need a very good well areated place with a good tempeature and RH to let them dry ( for example on a clothes rack in your living room). If you dont have such a good place or dont want to use your living room๐Ÿ˜ƒ. Then its better to cut in branches and get them a good wet trim, and hang them . In 95 percent i go with wet trimming. Its some work , but absolutely worth. And you can use the suagrleaves to do some butter, oil, shatter anything you like. I even keep fanleaves to make smoothies ( just pick them and freeze them to store) the ugliest leaves it put to my compost.. or into my wormfarm.. so i dont throw away anything. The stalk and branches get sheddered and go to compost too
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JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowsweek 13
Budding up nicely Troy๐Ÿ‘Œ. I hope the pH swings have settled for you. She does seem quite happyโ˜บ๏ธ
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Troy_McClure, I'm tuned in my friend and I await the next update. Keep up what you're doing and you'll carry them to the end, no problem.๐Ÿ‘Œ
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Mrs_Larimar, Exactly. I find that either people hate it or love it... but when the problems start with Ocean they don't seem to stop and it's a constant battle. I'm really enjoying my normal, non-amended soils. I like the idea of Ocean Forest because I felt the lack of control would be good and it would do my job for me. Now, I need that control back and basic, quality mediums are all I'll be hunting for now. I LOVE Dutch treat but my hydro shop stopped carrying it for stocking reasons (not enough to go around). Hence the 50/50 split of dutch treat I had left and the other 50% is canna-terra (which I actually do really like too...just not the potential pest problems it can carry). Keep spreading the word about Ocean, new comers need to know it may not be worth the trouble!!๐Ÿ˜ฎ
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@JinksyGrows, I absolutely agree. I know the ocean forest soils as troublemaker. Especially in seedlingsstage. because they are so " filled up" with "goodies"
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 18
Using carboardboxes for the first days is avery good option too. I take biiig cardboardboxes, putting strings inside and hang them up ito the box. And here depends it to the temperature and rh of the envoirement too, if i let the box open or close it.... i let them hang into until the small branches snap with aloud noise, after tis i put them into jars growdiaries.com/diaries/30769-urban-chili-2-0-test
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClure
@Mrs_Larimar, Hey, thank you as always for you very generous help and advice! I think I will be doing it in my tent, my house rH is around 40-44%, and I have both the humidifier and dehumidifier to keep it around 55% rH. My basement is where the tent is located and its usually around 63-73 temps. So with the tent, I will have the carbon filter and fans helping out, with the exhaust fan set to the lowest setting 1/10 (approx 30cfm) and I think I will put both mini fans almost on the ground on low settings, just to make sure the air is moving a little, and face them towards the or floor. I think I will be doing a light wet trim, because I burnt the leaves so much with the lights, I rather get rid of all the the dead stuff Ive had to look at for the last month. Then I will have them into Jars with some integra boost 62% packs
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 16
Great visualisation of the Budsites. woow.....they look veery good
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClure
@Mrs_Larimar, thank you! We are hanging in there!!! they are protecting the most valuable places very well! very resistant strain :)
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 10
Thats a nice SCROG Setup...... looking like alot of airflow for the Plants. is it a dehumifidier under the plants=? Or the Heater=?
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClure
@Mrs_Larimar, thanks Mrs! the screen was late, but its coming along nicely during the flower stretch. It is the 30pt dehumidifer and there is no heater. temps go from 65 at the lowest on a cold day to 82 at peak on a warm day
Alejangrow
Alejangrowweek 3
Currently curing my first grow of some cks white widow now. Hope you have good luck with this strain. Looking forward to seeing what you can do with these girls. ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClure
@Alejangrow, how are your girls doing?
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 2
Nice Setup. looking well prepared and well set. I would check again if you have aplace that is warmer ... or if you can help to keep the heat inside by isolating the tent, and last step give them a infrared heater
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClure
@Mrs_Larimar, thanks for the tips, I've got the grow tent climate stabalized at 70-74 during 18H LED on and around 66 during 6H LED off. the humidifier needs to run 24/7 to avoid rH dropping below 40%
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 19
I see lots of cloudy trichomes nowโ€ฆ yaay Looking very good. iam impressed of your " First timer" growโ€ฆ..where will it end.. Looks like aoptimal setup
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 18
Days are counting down......she shows lots of resin
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 17
getting closer now.....lovely budsites
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 7
Get well soon.... i hope you get rid of your Cast soon
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 5
very well prepared and structured grow
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 4
They are growing Vigor with a happy green... wonderful
grownblow
grownblowweek 5
hey man, good luck with the grow. im waiting on my sf1000 as well and i just wanna know how far from the plant u have the light in veg?
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@Troy_McClure,iam very courious and gonna follow up
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClure
@Mrs_Larimar, They had a good sale, so rather and wait until I see if I need them, or if they would significantly help, I went for it. I plan on having some really bushy 4x4 SCROG so they might be helpful for that, but I will try to be very careful if I do use them all for flower. Thank you for the advice as always, greatly appreciated
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@Troy_McClure,sounds abit much 4 times the sf-1000 for flower......iam going with 150 watt for a 3x4 tent and its lots of light... iam growing between 4 and 6 plants in that tent and all plants developed nicely no lack of light
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JP148
JP148week 6
Maybe itโ€™s a typo but you stated you were fed them Big Bloom . If so isnโ€™t that the wrong fert. For mid veg state. Would explain some of your issues. Good luck ๐Ÿ‘
JP148
JP148
@Troy_McClure, yeah flowering hey Iโ€™ve been wrong before just trying to help. Nice grow
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClure
@@JP148, hey, the feeding schedule on the fox farm products suggests to use it with flowering
JP148
JP148week 19
Beautiful grow ๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ’. Congratulations on ur 1st place win. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClure
@@JP148, Thank you very much
illest
illestweek 15
Nice grow! Its cool to see look at the plants and try to figure out whats wrong with them. Looking forward to seeing how you rebound!
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClure
@illest, Thanks buddy! yea this one was a tough home stretch for me, soil ph and dialling in the climate took the girls for a rough ride but they are super resilient!
Noma420
Noma420week 12
Your ladies are growing beautifully !!! Nice job... waiting for the next updates!!! Good luck man๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿพ
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClure
@Noma420, thanks!
Gardener_of_Goodness
Gardener_of_Goodnessweek 1
Quality start to what looks like a quality grow! Great write up and smart setup! AC Infinity extraction? Which lights are you using? SF? Are they dimmed for seedling stage? Following! Keep it up mate and all the best! ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’จ
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClure
@Gardener_of_Goodness, hey, thanks a lot! I'll be adding the specs details today and provide more pictures!
smokinghut
smokinghutweek 7
Troy, as a rule of thumb, plants prefer constant nutrient availability over boosts. Excess nutes stress plants out and nute deficiency does, too. Also, nutrient accumulation in soil / mix is more often than not toxic to roots. Phosphorus, Potassium and Nitrogen behave in totally different ways. NITROGEN N is highly volatile, hydrophilic and soluble in water. It will evaporate very rapidly if wet and exposed to air. It moves quickly throughout the medium. Plants absorb it quickly. It is easy to accidentally flush away. Think of it as sugar. It makes plants grow, basically. Avoid slow release N capsules when approaching the flowering stage, but, in moderation, they can be relatively safe during initial growth. POTASSIUM Comes in salt form (really toxic, never let it accumulate, concentrate). Soluble in water. Very ill advised to boost K. Used in flowering stage. IMPORTANT RATIOS Nutrient absorption depends on Ca:Mg ratio, pH and the CEC (Cations - reactivity of your soil) and several other factors https://www.smart-fertilizer.com/articles/5essential-parameters-crop-management/ PHOSPHORUS P is needed throught the plants life cycle. It is a tough cookie to handle. P deficiency cannot be completely regenerated, but symptoms may be made more mild. Phosphorus is highly reactive, so it is never found in free form, usually coming as phosphates or triphosphates. Phosphates are not as water solluble as N, for example, triphosphates are more. When using soil, one should take into account that P is relatively immobile, for it tends to bind with Fe (iron) present in clay particles. Therefore, one should incorporate reactive phosphate rock to the soil mix one or two months in advance, so as to have a fertility foundation on which to build upon. And think of keeping the availability of this nutrient stable. Read up P deficiency in staple crops for a good background on the subject. If making supersoil, stay away from bat guano. It is not only gross, but potentially harmful to one's health, especially if used 'in natura' (a guano collector may have been patient 0 for covid19 - one of the more solid theories around). Never use 'raw' or 'fresh' manure either, for it ferments and elevates soil temperature. Manure must have been prefermented (a manure heap, if properly tended, will produce usable fertilizer in 4 to 6 months). And it is toxic and a potential disease vector, as well. If using any animal droppings (guano, cow, chicken, turkey), mix with soil one or two months in advance, mix and water constantly. Worms help speed up the process. https://www.fda.gov/food/food-safety-modernization-act-fsma/raw-manure-under-fsma-final-rule-produce-safety
Havingago
Havingagoweek 19
Grow was awesome... Well done ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿบ