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Week 1. Vegetation
5 years ago
2.54 cm
24 hrs
23 °C
6.1
No Smell
78 %
3720 L
1 L
60.96 cm
Welcome to my Fast Buds sponsored shootout and living organic soil v coco side by side. I also plan to use this grow to my full advantage regarding a few age old nagging questions about methods. I have had a keen interest in L.O.S ( supersoil) since reading a few threads a while back on how amazing and productive it can be. After too much research and procrastinating I had to give it a go. I have been a decades coco/nft grower and recently threw my hat in the rdwc ring too. I have avoided soil due to the overwatering worry ( heavy handed chimp brain !) and the best potting soil/feeds. Catching up on the advances in indoor soil gardening and organics led me too subcools supersoil recipes to name a few but being a town dweller with farms everywhere around me still drew blanks on a lot of the ingredients needed and where the hell I could even begin to get them from. Thankfully , commercial savvy has now made buying it in ready to use and with a full range of beneficial bacteria ect available in amendments from a grow shop here in the uk. ecothrive have realised the potential for us to dive into this medium with all the mixing , measuring and resourcing. I bit the bullet and £150 later I now have 4 x37Litre pots that will be used for as long as I want to feed the soil for without EVER needing nutrients again potentially. The coco has also had charge mixed in to encourage the bennies to colonize there too. I will be using the shogun nutes that I know do the business with coco to compare with for yield , growth and taste. I have 3 seeds each of 4 Fast Buds Strains to use as a control for the grow and am journaling each strain in their own diaries. This statement will be used to start each one as the information is identical at this point but following this I will do them individually. I am now starting their second week since opening the seed packets , straight into soaked and shook root riot cubes and into the heated propagator. They had all showed their heads by end of day 3 and a couple needed helmet surgery to open up without being hindered . I have has them in the prop for a few days but they needed to get settled as they were popping roots out all over the cubes. They have now been in their final pots for 2 days complete and starting their 3rd today at day 8 since planting in cubes. I am impressed with the speed and success of these girls already (12 of 13 germinated) . Well done fast buds. So here we go folks , any comments , ideas ,questions , advice are always welcome and I hope we can have some fun experimenting with defol v non defol , topping v fimming v bending and any other curiosities along the way. I plan on using a quadline for them all to keep a control for the comparisons too. Be green folks Welcome aboard and a huge thank you to Fast Buds for the opportunity to try autos.
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Week 2. Vegetation
5 years ago
7.62 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
6.1
No Smell
78 %
3720 L
1 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 7
SUPERthrive  - Superthrive
SUPERthrive 0.25 mll
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A - Shogun
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A 0.5 mll
SHOGUN Samurai Coco B - Shogun
SHOGUN Samurai Coco B 0.5 mll
Day 9 :These 3 ladies have been behaving well and settling in nicely to their new homes. I have initially only given them all a tea of boosts until yesterday when I started adding a little silicon and calmag and a few drops of superthrive. Today I further fed a half strength feed to the coco twins as well. The Los girl is showing a paler growth going on and I am hoping this sorts itself out now they have been fed a little. The charge and ecosystem take a couple of weeks to hit production from fresh potting so the teas will give them a kick start. Once she gets feeding on that scrummy Los grub below , I think she will fly. All in all they have not faltered for their 1st week and considering their surgery done well. I can certainly see a few front runners already among these Fast Bud beauties so let's watch the race hot up now rhet are on both Mars lights.The sp250 will be going on at the 1st signs of flowering so they have 600w full spectrum draw of led to veg with.
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Week 3. Vegetation
5 years ago
17.78 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
6.1
No Smell
78 %
37 L
1 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 7
SUPERthrive  - Superthrive
SUPERthrive 0.25 mll
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A - Shogun
SHOGUN Samurai Coco A 2 mll
SHOGUN Samurai Coco B - Shogun
SHOGUN Samurai Coco B 2 mll
Day 16 Veg : Holy molly these girls have impressed me this week. I started with barely seedlings and now at the beginning of week 3 above the soil , they are going for it. Seeing the LOS girl#1 slowly start to gain a little more green to her leaf finally has me thinking the soil is becoming active now. The coty leaves are still all looking ok and not even nibbled by them. I wonder if autos can bypass them when resources are there for them ?. So far the coco girls have been consistently getting bigger but the LOS seems to have spurted up in their pots. They all had a treat of a life-cycle feed a few days back which seems to have accelerated them all a little too. No doubt their ruderalis genetic also is a huge help but no signs of deficiency besides the paling , so all good in the world. I am curious to see when the first signs of flower kick in now the 2 week mark has passed. Training starts soon.
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Week 4. Vegetation
5 years ago
25.4 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
6.1
No Smell
78 %
37 L
1 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 6
SUPERthrive  - Superthrive
SUPERthrive 0.25 mll
SHOGUN Silicon - Shogun
SHOGUN Silicon 1 mll
Root Stim - Vitalink
Root Stim 1 mll
Day 27 from seed: Wow these ladies like life it seems. Some very good growth this week and the switch to Mega Crop has started well so far. The Paler girl is starting to darken a little more now so let's see how we go. As mentioned in the video , I have been able to top them this week so the training can slowly begin . The only thing I need to sort now it the watering regime for the Los. They are doing good with the MC being used too. I am dialing them all in this week to see how green and healthy we can get them. I am looking forward to their smoke as these have been a strain I grew as a photo period a while back. Love these fast buds girls.
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Week 5. Vegetation
5 years ago
25.4 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
6.1
No Smell
78 %
37 L
1 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 6
SUPERthrive  - Superthrive
SUPERthrive 0.25 mll
SHOGUN Silicon - Shogun
SHOGUN Silicon 1 mll
Root Stim - Vitalink
Root Stim 1 mll
Day 33 from seed: Well what a week for the girls. I am a few days early for an update but the week postings go out of sync anyway.lol. I also wanted to catch them at their training start before I punish them and make them look rough for a bit. #1 Has been working in her chlorophyll from her pale beginnings. The mega crop has worked really well to bring her back to a more healthy green. I expect she will get better now the Living Organic soil is active and I am stopping the MC for the soil pots as they are getting a little too much Nitrogen now. #2 hasn't missed a beat and took to her training without a hitch. The pics are from 3 days later and another re-pinning session. #3 Is doing well considering i snapped her 5th branch off so now have a quadline again. She is pinning out nicely now and I expect the next week to be the start of stretch so I will have to keep her moving to her set for flowering position. I am impressed with this strain so far and cannot wait till those purple shiny towers are looming. excellent work from Fast Buds. Roll on the next project !!!(watch this space for some pioneering fast buds future)
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Week 6. Flowering
5 years ago
60.96 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
6.1
No Smell
70 %
37 L
2 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 4
SHOGUN Silicon - Shogun
SHOGUN Silicon 1 mll
Cal Mag - Vitalink
Cal Mag 1 mll
MEGA CROP  - Greenleaf Nutrients
MEGA CROP 1 mll
Day 40 from Seed ( 3 in flower): Yet another good week for these rapidly changing ladies. I have kept them in Mega crop at 1g/L and they seem very happy at that. This Mega crop is the best nute I have used in decades of growing. so simple to use in all aspects and the results are amazing. I am also blown away by the ecothrive living soil. now it has kicked into gear it is killing the coco girls by a mile in size for every strain. I have backed off the silica and calmag now to see how they get on with just plain water and the nutes the spil makes itself on them. The coco girls are getting a .5g upping of MC next feed now they are in flowering and their stretch mode. My fears of too much N have been put to rest now and it was the light intensity causing issues across the crop and not nute strength. #1 has had to be staked down and tied back daily to keep her from taking off vertical. The 90° bend early on has not done her a bit of harm at all and even with the trunk split and spread , she is building on the support for it as she packs the size on. Her pot has a great mulch layer with some excellent greenery low down to die back and be the next layer of food below the soil. All my removed leaf and tips have been put into this layer now too so should be perfect for the "no-till" 2nd use of them ( fast buds fast flowering girls will fly in them !!) The coco girls are responding great to their training too. They have some thick stem growth so are planning some serious bud weight. I will be thinking them out a little in the next few days to get all those sites lit up for their push to buds. Brilliant strain from fast buds and cannot wait to sample their delights. Thats when the Los pots will prove even more viable . fully organic and no need to flush.. Catch you in your grows and a huge thankyou to Heather at Fast buds for being a top rep and so responsive. Deserves a raise guys !!!!
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Week 7. Flowering
5 years ago
60.96 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Normal
70 %
37 L
2 L
45.72 cm
Nutrients 4
SHOGUN Silicon - Shogun
SHOGUN Silicon 1 mll
Cal Mag - Vitalink
Cal Mag 1 mll
MEGA CROP  - Greenleaf Nutrients
MEGA CROP 1 mll
Day 47 ( 10 in flowering): Happy days here in the Farm. These ladies have been stacking up their bud sites ready for the big build it seems. Limbs are nice and chunky to support the upcoming baseball bats , and their general health and colour is looking good. I have the rh at 70% and will lower that soon to encourage some oil. The Los girl is flying with very little input needed. She will get a top dress of charge, life cycle and watered in with biosys tea on her next feed. The Coco Mc girls are vibrant and a beautiful green colour so should be powerhouses for the bud stacking. I do want to defoliate a bit but will wait a little longer while they still sort their stretching out. All the budsites are able to get light so their bushiness isnt an issue yet.! .I think they will go to another 5 weeks before harvest though which gives them ample time to pack in those buds. Until next week , peace and love gd fam
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Week 8. Flowering
5 years ago
60.96 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Normal
65 %
37 L
2 L
45.72 cm
Nutrients 4
SHOGUN Silicon - Shogun
SHOGUN Silicon 1 mll
Cal Mag - Vitalink
Cal Mag 1 mll
MEGA CROP  - Greenleaf Nutrients
MEGA CROP 1.2 mll
Day 56 from seed( 16 in flower): Merry Christmas Groomies , Sponsors and Grow Diaries Crew. Another amazing week of growing and developing has given me some of the most beautiful bud colours I have seen in a long time. Their singular structure on us is amazing and they look very psychedelic!!!. The smell coming off them at a touch is a very potent varnish and sweetness. They leave my hands tacky too now. Seeing their quick bud growth against my usual photoperiods is a shock too. I forgot how young they were and had my worries over their close finish time and current size. This was very short lived as from talking to other auto guys , it seems that Autos usually flower for as long as they are in veg period for before their actual flowering buds start , i.e 4 weeks veg-4 weeks flowering. These girls showed real flowers at day 38 from seed which would mean Day 76 for the finish potentially.That means another 20 days to get fatter and more frosty for a Jan 20, 8-9th finish. I expect from seed is a good start point but can add a week if seeds take their time to wake up ect.. I know it isnt an exact science so let's see. #1 This girl is stunning up close. she is covered with buds and her Los has been feeding her plenty with just water added. The pot is mulching all her old leaves too now so she will be helping feed the next plant in this pot ( fast buds fast flowering tester!!). She is very bushy but I love her look and am resisting the urge to defoliate her at the moment. I will do some at flowering day 21. #2 Is doing well next to her huge sister and certainly looks as many sites too. The coco and Mc are brilliant. her vibrant green will be pulling all that light in and working wonders towards her bud building too. # Is an oddity and looks like a cuckoo baby in a nest of blackbirds!!! She had none of the colours or psychedelic look at all but some of the smell . She is a good size and was a pale girl initially so I didnt train her much. Have a great holiday with people you love. till next time Merry Christmas UPDATE :DAY 22 flowering. now feeding them with an addition of shigun warrior pk 9/18 and Simon boost too. hoping it is still in range with the npk. I think another 2 weeks on these ladies so will be giving them Dragon force for the last week at least , might switch it next feed if they look ready for it. hoping to keep them happy alongside the Mc so rabbit of an experiment.
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Week 9. Flowering
5 years ago
60.96 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Normal
65 %
37 L
2 L
45.72 cm
Nutrients 4
SHOGUN Sumo Boost - Shogun
SHOGUN Sumo Boost 1 mll
SHOGUN Dragon Force - Shogun
SHOGUN Dragon Force 4 mll
Cal Mag - Vitalink
Cal Mag 1 mll
Day 55 since seedling (correct dates) After re working my dates out it seems I was out by a few days. Now re timed it seems everything is where it should be. The LOS girl is looking good but not a great yield from her I dont think. She is frosty as hell and looks dank too. Her smell is so strong now of varnish/diesel/fruit , an odd combination. The other 2 in coco are doing good but there is a huge visual difference between the two " Sister from another Mr" is growing well but definitely behind in terms of finshing with her sisters. I think another 2 weeks will see them finish perfectly and I have now hit them with the shogun Dragon force and sumo boost to boost their final weeks and oil production. I am loving the look of these buds. nothing as beautiful has been in my room before. top notch euphoria is expected with these colours popping out.
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Week 10. Flowering
5 years ago
60.96 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Normal
65 %
37 L
2 L
45.72 cm
Nutrients 4
SHOGUN Sumo Boost - Shogun
SHOGUN Sumo Boost 2 mll
SHOGUN Dragon Force - Shogun
SHOGUN Dragon Force 4 mll
Cal Mag - Vitalink
Cal Mag 1 mll
Day 63 : These girls are continuing their quest for glory and still popping pistils. #1 In her organic soil looks the most potent up close and her main stem is so fat now. I tried to reposition it a little and lost the battle as it could arm wrestle a Gorilla !!. I amended her pot today with some charge(200ml/10L) in her water along with the other LOS girls and a top dress with "life cycle" (30ml) . I think another week at least for her so she could use the boosts. #2 Is also looking potent and smells amazing like her sister up close. she is a very thirsty girl and uses all her nutes within a day to a lighter pot slightly every feed. She has been fed with just the shogun sumo boost (20ml) , dragon force (40ml) to 10L water to compare with her MC fed sister. her height is held down with lst but if I grew this strain again , I would not train it flat but manage it as natural as possible. #3 is the reason I say this. As she had looked a little different in size and colour , I allowed her to grow untrained. She is still completely different to the others but from talking to a member here , there are about 9 different ones. wow. She smells identical but her buds look so different to her sisters from different Misters. She is being fed with Mc (10g) , sumo boost (10ml), pk warrior (6ml) , calmag(10ml) and silica (10ml) to 10L water. She is loving life and packing her weight on now. i think she may finish a bit after her step-sisters but I expect a few more weeks possibly. Keep it green Growmies
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Week 11. Flowering
5 years ago
60.96 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Normal
65 %
37 L
3 L
45.72 cm
Nutrients 3
SHOGUN Sumo Boost - Shogun
SHOGUN Sumo Boost 2 mll
SHOGUN Dragon Force - Shogun
SHOGUN Dragon Force 4 mll
Biosys - Ecothrive
Biosys 0.5 mll
Day 70: These ladies are still going for it with new pistils making them look even chubbier. #1 In the LOS is beautiful and thick . There are so many leaves swallowed whole by her buds that she will be a nightmare to trim the.mout of.lol #2 Is so ready to come out unlike her sisters. She is so damn frosty and demonic looking now. I cannot wait to sample these girls. They smell so pungent of sweet varnish that hit your nose with a kick. I expect a cure will lose some of the varnish terp a bit. They all feel so gritty , greasy too. my fingers get a sticky residue after playing with them. #2 is being put intonthe dark for 36 hours to encourage her to push oils out a little before the trim and dry. #3 Is getting quite big and even though she looks like a totally different plant , she smells identicle to the other 2. She looks like she will go a couple more weeks at least so a staggered harvest for the Lsd-25 which helps with trim jail. roll on smoking this star of the show , even if fast buds screwed me over with early photo comp withdrawal!!!!!!!!
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Week 12. Flowering
5 years ago
60.96 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Normal
65 %
37 L
3 L
45.72 cm
Nutrients 3
SHOGUN Sumo Boost - Shogun
SHOGUN Sumo Boost 2 mll
SHOGUN Dragon Force - Shogun
SHOGUN Dragon Force 4 mll
Biosys - Ecothrive
Biosys 0.5 mll
Day 77: I thought that these ladies would be finished and hung but they both have other ideas. Now that I have taken #2 out and pre harvest trimmed her for drying, I wonder how different the resulting smoke will be. Seeing their natural fade in the suoersoil is beautiful to watch as their leaves go through all the colour shades, even the Sister from another Mr has started fading and she is still being fed with shogun. I cannot recommend this strain to grow enough. It has been amazing from the off and since her flowers start so early too , the fireworks begin very quickly. Smells are pungent now and so intoxicating when I open the flap. sticky is an understatement for these beauties. Great work @fastbuds . Until next week . have fun all
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Week 13. Flowering
5 years ago
60.96 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Normal
65 %
37 L
3 L
45.72 cm
Day 84: The Lsd25 are finally ready for a wet trim and hanging. I would normally hang compete until dry then trim but due to the already present budrot ( sorted out now and Neutralized) , I am going for a wet trim to get some density out for their drying. They have been good to grow but like the BlackBerry , I dont think their yield will be shattering any records. The LOS girl has a major case of leaf mould due to the dark period of 4 days and not enough airflow. Sorted with a bud wash and shake dry. They will be both trimmed up this evening for their slow steady dry. The previously dries #2 is curing now and gave me 41g of very nice buds. Will do a full harvest report as soon as they are ready for jarring. Peace and love folks.
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Week 14. Harvest
5 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
LSD-25 Auto - Fast Buds
Spent 92 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
9/10
Rated
56.75 g
Bud dry weight per plant
3
Plants
0.93
Grow Room size
Easy
Difficulty
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa

Height
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Fat buds , I LOVE YOU GUYS !!!!!!!. This strain is amazing. From seed to finish and at every stage they are a joy to look at. Their amazing psychedelic colours during early flower are a 1st for me. WOW!!! I dont think they are a big yielding plant so are more for the pleasure than huge hauls but these are so worth the grow space and easy to grow. I did lst a little but if I did thisbstrain again , I would go more natural with them like the #3 plant. They keep a decent height when grown out so would be good in a closet grow too. They shot up fast and hit their final height quickly which left them plenty of time to build those smelly , sticky , beautiful bugs. Brilliant work FastBuds
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