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Reaper Reaper
5 years ago
if u wanna skip details just read the CAP LETTERS day 29 - januari 2 waterleaves from under the stems got cut off, also trimmed the lowest branches because the leaves were getting too big the soil plant has gotten no trim or cuts at all day 31 the ph of the res was 5.3 i changed water , roots look brown, not rotten or slimy just brown. day 32 the hydro plant gets healthy growth after the water change. ph is still too low (5.5) im waiting for my *PH up* i ordered online. never tought i would need it lol. she goes well on 5.5 but not enough calmag is absorbed like it does on 6.2 The pictures of day 32 display the difference is very big in the stems, the soil plant only got topped while the hydro plant had already a litle trim on the lowest branches and the branches above (in the midle of the bush where i topped them) so she got more stress and still is bigger then the soil. day 33 i got no ph up (for now yikes) sooooo i took 8 liters out of the res and replaced it with pure rainwater and 170 ppm calmag in it without nutrients to keep the acid level a bit higher. it worked as u can see in the final pictures the plant gets new growth a bit faster. ph up should be here by end of the week. day 35: plant start to stretch finnally, while i was doing LST later in the evening one of the top stems just snapped off completely OOOPS ๐Ÿ˜†. theres still a lot of branching going on and a nice bush she will recover very fast from this loss as i summoned the Cannabis Gods into my room as the planets lined up and perfected my PH up to 6 by adding the purest rainwater from the universe the roots cleaned themselves back to pearlwhite and started absorbing the nutes faster then ever. in all silence i knew this was my destiny and the stems grew so fast i could hear them grow. the whole experience was too much as i collapsed to the ground and stood up left the room and knew... i would never see these ph and calmag problems ever again and went down the stairs with my new powers THE PLANTS BOTH GOT GERMINATED ON SAME DATE. BOTH GOT TOPPED ON SAME NODE. I WAS FORCED TO TRIM 4 BRANCHES OF THE HYDROPLANT BECAUS IS WAS BLOCKING TOO MUCH LIGHT I ALSO CUT OFF THE 4 BIGGEST WATERLEAVES ON THE MAIN STEM. THE SOILPLANT DID NOT NEED ANY TRIMS AS SHE IS NOT GROWING AT AN INSANE SPEED, HOWEVER THE SOIL PLANT LOOKS HEALTHIER AND BIGGER BECAUSE THE FANLEAVES ARE STILL THERE. IF U WATCH THE STEMS IN THE PICTURES OF DAY 32 U CAN CLEARLY SEE THE HYDRO IS WAY BIGGER. I NEED TO CORRECT MY PH SO SHE ABSORBS MORE CALCIUM MAGNESIUM FOR EXPLOSIVE GROWTH.
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Grow Questions
Reaper
Reaperstarted grow question 5 years ago
2 problems with the hydro plant: 1: brown dots on LOWEST leaves 2: verical growing stems please watch the pictures of day 23 to see the details. stems snap very easy at the nodes when i try to bend em outside (hydro plant). the soil plant doesnt snap. calmag ppm was 200
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Feeding. Deficiences
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DWCHC
DWCHCanswered grow question 5 years ago
Problem 1- Brown dots are calmag or rather WERE calmag issues if the new growth is absent of said dots.. in December, because of growing in solution, calcium, magnesium and iron can get locked out easily and quickly. Maintaining a pH at 5.8-6.0 for veg and 5.4-5.8 for flower as well as water changes ever so often ( timing is dependent on the size of your rezivoirs and number and size of plant(s) per rezivoir. ) Solution ppm should be 800-900 for hard veg, 500-600 for early veg, and 1050 to 1200 ppm for deep flower. When changing out water, aim for a ppm lower than max to leave room for calmag between water changes. I usually go by the 2 top up change method, when the equivalent of the whole rezivoir has been added through watering, ex 5 gal bucker, over 1 week I've added 5 gals of water to keep levels right, then I do a water change, sometimes the same procedure will take 2 weeks to occur,. Depends on how much water the plants are transpiring. Problem 2. Vertical stems are a genetics and high speed growth acceleration that is inherent in DWC systems.. technique I use involves removing the base fan leaf by bending it down against the lower trunk till it snaps clean off at the base rather than cutting it.. this ensures that when the stem is bent out, there isn't a leverage point occuring against the leaf stem which causes the branch to split as in your pic, (don't worry though, they heal quick). Give it a good week to heal before attempting another bend, and brace the base with your free hands thumb and index finger. Also, allowing them to stretch a bit more first andor bending less and more often over a longer period of time... Happy growing! Keep it Green.
Reaper
Reaperstarted grow question 5 years ago
why does my ph drop from 6.0 to 5.3 (in a week)? also why do my roots have a brown color? they arent slimy and no smell, i heard this is because of GHE nutes. should i be worried ? as u can see the plant looks healthy but doesnt grow too fast right now.
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Ganjagrandaddy
Ganjagrandaddyanswered grow question 5 years ago
Are you using anything to keep the res bennies happy like hydroguard or z7 ect... The browning could be the start of pythos. If your res temp is above 21ยฐc then you will be bang on the conditions that dwc killer loves !. Keepn the res below 19ยฐc by any means possible. One great way is to cover all your pots with silver bubblewrap insulation. The kind used for roof insulating or wrapping round Jacuzzi's. It is cheap and works amazingly well. ( check my diary of rdwc for example of the pots duringn heatwaves. worked so well !) You also need plenty of micro air bubbles for the bucket to make surface Dissolvable oxygen . The Ph drop is also a part of the plants deposits back into the res during exchanges. Ideally ,starting at 6.2 and slowly dropping is what you want as it allows the full oh range to help release and uptake the elements from nutes . swing is good and also can be a good indicator of how they are actually feeding too if you check ppm as well. I will put a chart on my current grows BlackBerry week 10 pictures to show you the best way to read a dwc feeding and ph swings meanings and fixes. It is a great way to dial in your feeds to the sweet spot every time. Any lockout issues require a flushing of ph'ed water for a day to reset the root access too. Hope the chart on my BlackBerry fast buds week 10 helps. ( doing it now)
Reaper
Reaperstarted grow question 5 years ago
My duds do NOT get big at all. this is an XXL yielder, is my bulb done ? (its the third run now on 18/24) or do i just got to be patient ? also the soilplant look TERRIBLE (same strain same AGE) help pls.
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Buds. Not fattening
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OutForReal
OutForRealanswered grow question 5 years ago
I feel like your nutrient amount is weak , you should increase the dosage. The blue dream Matic can be long to flower depending on the phenotype so maybe you'r on a long flowering phenotype The bulbs can be used during 2 or 3 run , after the efficiency is decreasing and you can still grow under it but with a different final result.
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Fast_Buds
Fast_Budsweek 14
Hey there, Well done on your grow. We hope you have enjoyed growing our genetics !! Keep up the good work! Happy harvest!!!๐ŸŒพ
Reaper
Reaper
@Fast_Buds, i messed up a bit with the feeding, the buds are very strong
DWCHC
DWCHCweek 4
You also don't need to start your flush until the final 4 or 5 days in DWC, especially if you use distilledfiltered or RO water..just change out completely, and balance the pH, no nutes.. Ash will be pure light grey
DWCHC
DWCHC
@Reaper, I've got a heirloom skunk #3 from the 80s that I've run through many times, wicked pheno, it's in my profile pic, I'm going to cross my strongest future with it both directions and see what it makes, gonna call it PuRe FuNk.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ˆ Will diary it up.. Might give anesia's strawberry tree, blackberry moonrocks and their gelatto strains a go..
Reaper
Reaper
@dwchc, they are alright now, i gave em a few days ago new water with half calmag and double nutes they bounced back very strong and fast wow hydro is so fast in everything. what you do is very pro i hope u find the best pheno woul be insane if u can make your own cross. i once crossed super lemon haze x white window. (i let the white widow become a hermaphrodite by waking them up overnight during flower and they had pollen sacks, and wow those seeds i harvested out of the super lemon haze every single one was female ๐Ÿฆ„๐Ÿ’š different phenos but every single one was INSANE STRONG weed and taste. if u could ever cross these u will get famous in your area for having those buds. Super lemon haze by greenhouse and white widow by dinafem. lol 2% chance youl try it but its fire next level
DWCHC
DWCHC
@Reaper,. Well it sounds ok, it would depend just how much Cal and mag are in the base solution, how quick their eating it up... Best to watch the leaf tips andaddress and issues as they arise. I mix my own custom blend from base salts so I just mix what's needed... Much morec control over what they're getting.. the rainwater is a good choice to work with.. my water comes out at 110 ppm, and for flower my roots sit in 1000 to 1200 ppm +/-
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Denzul
Denzulweek 7
That is one hell of a bush. Tons of leaves on that lady. Shes quite happy. Nice work. Keep doing what your doing and best of luck with the rest the grow.
Denzul
Denzul
@Reaper, with that many healthy branches who knows if she even noticed lol
Reaper
Reaper
@Denzul, thanks. i snapped of a huge branch a week ago lol im surprised it survived
raptor65
raptor65week 3
Looking great and Good luck with your grow mate๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Œ, all the best and have fun๐Ÿ˜Ž, ya gotta love it LOL๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘Š
raptor65
raptor65
@Reaper, Well I hope you get more LOL๐Ÿ˜‰ Have a great christmas๐Ÿ‘
Reaper
Reaper
@raptor65, thanks i wonder how much more yield ill get with hydro ๐Ÿ˜†โ˜ƒ๏ธ
A_Haze_THAI420
A_Haze_THAI420week 8
Looking great friend . Happy growing :)
Reaper
Reaper
@A_Haze_THAI420, thanks i hope the yield will be good
Alexa
Alexaweek 4
Looking great! ๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ‘
Reaper
Reaper
@@Alexa, Thanks ๐Ÿ’š
Psilocubensis
Psilocubensisweek 1
This is something i wanna follow!! Nice, dude!! I just want to remember that as hydro nutes are ready to be absorbed by roots, care not to give too much to soil... Have a Shroom!! ๐Ÿ™Œ
Reaper
Reaper
EZgrower
EZgrowerweek 1
hello. excellent start. I wish you big buds. Smoke for you success subscribed and watching your grow.๐Ÿ‘
Reaper
Reaper
@EZgrower, ๐Ÿ’š
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingersweek 7
Your plants are taking long to flower because you flipped to 12/12 before they were mature and showed sex, IMO you shouldn't flip before showing sex.
Reaper
Reaper
@MrGreenFingers, i had the same problem once with an Northern light autoflower. in soil, it took 16weeks the plant was huge, i cit her down as soon it was slightly ripe lol not many autoflowers can be trusted, never had any problems with Blue dream auto (humboldt) and the bleu dreamatic, always ready at 11-12 weeks
MrGreenFingers
MrGreenFingers
@Reaper, ah yes, sorry didnt even look at the strain! I think you are right with the cold and weak lights, also DWC tends to take longer then soil with Autos - although I think your soil girl is taking just as long? I am also in DWC and had an auto go over 100 days so I changed to Photo's for this reason.
Reaper
Reaper
@MrGreenFingers, its an autoflower they get 18h light since seed, it was cold and first 10 days i used fluorescent lights maybe thats why they late
Ganjagrandaddy
Ganjagrandaddyweek 5
found it! posting it on now
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stixweek 4
Adding some armor si (silica) during veg will make the stems much stronger.