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weeks 10-15
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amazongrow amazongrow
5 years ago
Hey bros, Just adding the first photos of the week, I gave her another 1/4 feed, now keeping the proportions. She had 3 water only meals last week so I think that is way she filled some complaints for N. What do you think? I'm back here with more photos. What do you think about the yellowing? About 5 old fans and a few little leaves from the bottom. I think she is defoliating herself, but I had 3 watering only feeds last week so.. I think I might have underestimated her hunger. So I gave her 1/2 strengh feeding on the second week watering. She is a heavy drinker and we are doing about 4 feeds per week, being feed feed water water.. but I'm studying more about ppm and watching her hunger, I guess she would take it at least 1/4 or maybe full strengh, but I dont want to accumulate nutrients and have a bad taste, so we will be watching and acting accordingly. Any hints? Got the lights up because the stretch was huge this week. Oh, and I'm on distilled water, I had a gallon and it was 1-5 ppm, my water s 175 and I could not get past 1/2 strenght safely.. now I can. Let's see, She seems to love the water. But when I feed water only I will give her my amazonian well water at 140ppm. HEY BROS! Look at last picutes. Main steam is broken. Cant put tape because she is tied. What should I do? Untie, tape and leave it with some bamboo sticks? Or should I let her go? Two or 3 days since stem break. Nothing has been done, but I think it got wider (picture day 61), so I will put a tape around the 4 inner nodes's at the base just in case. Thanks for the visit Tchau, do Brazil! =]
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Grow Questions
amazongrow
amazongrowstarted grow question 5 years ago
Should I defoliate? Why and when? Please, give a reference from a respected grower or paper/article. Thank you!
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Techniques. Defoliation
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JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowsanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hello there, I hope I can help with this one and I do have a link for you that I'll post below, along with a member that defo's on this site. Firstly if you're to defo, the majority of it should be taken before entering flower. Not 100% necessary, but defo in Veg allows the plant to recover much faster then when she's in bloom. I would do the majority of any defo you need to do a week before flower. When in flower, you can take fan leaves as you please but I would limit how much you take at a time, taking only 2 or 3 at a time, per day until you have what you want. This is all to reduce stress and encourage fast recovery. In veg, take what you want but ensure it's either directly before or after a feeding. The nutrients added will help her rebound much quicker. Why defo? Mostly to open up the canopy to light and air. Shoots and flowers below a bushy canopy will be under-developed and will probably become LARF (shake). By strategically defo'ing leaves that are blocking potential colas/shoots, we expose to air and light. These shoots will then grow like crazy and roughly match canopy and the size of your other tops. On to your plants. You trained them very well and there does not seem to be any light/air being blocked out. Your tops are all nice and far from each other, even height and their fans should not interfere with their individual growth. If a fan leaf does get in the way, you can take it, but I suggest massaging the fan stem out of the way first. A trick "naturalist's" use. Massaging the fan leaf stem between your forefinger and thumb, gently, will allow you to soften it up and direct it into the position you please. This isn't permanent and the fan will probably migrate back to its original position within 24-48 hours. BUT, this method allows us to keep out sugar maker, cause zero stress and still get the results we're looking for (light/air canopy penetration). Just takes a little more of your time to maintain the process. SO! at this time, I don't feel there's any 'necessary' defo to do on your girls. As they grow and get bushier you may like to take some fans at that time. For now, I'd suggest keeping all your sugar makers until or unless they actually become a problem and get in the way. Here is a link to growweedeasy pertaining to defo, why we do it, when we do it and the benefits of doing it with overly bushy girls. https://www.growweedeasy.com/defoliation. I'm looking for a contact I know who does defo and I will send you their diary link and/or name in PM, I just need time to source it. I hope this helped you in some way and if you need anything else, drop me a PM and I shall see if I know anything about it. Cheers, looking great and definitely on your way👍😉
amazongrow
amazongrowstarted grow question 5 years ago
Hey bros, take a look at the last Day 102 pics, mold... what do you think? Does not smell like it, comes from outside. Looks like a bunch of white pistils together. I've cut one of to examine further with the mic. I will update the pics later. Oh, and also, one more week to go?
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Buds. Other
Other. Mold
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chasv77
chasv77answered grow question 5 years ago
Mold or genetics???? I have a GG#4 in 8th week of flower, and I have three top buds that are actually developing cotton tops in the center of their buds. I would think mold would be thinner and more widespread.
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ButtersStotch
ButtersStotchcommentedweek 95 years ago
Hey man great grow so far! Shitty about the split but there is definitely lots of hope, similar breaks happened on my outdoor this year during flower and tape and time healed everything! My first mainline is going on now too and after seeing what unfortunately happened to your girl I'm going to support the main stem before the same happens to me. Good luck with the rest of your grow man, I'll be following!
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@ButtersStotch, thanks for the visit bro! yeah, that was sad but she keeps growing like a champ! I will tape it tomorrow to give a little help. Hope she gets heavy after that. I will be supporting my mains two, I will tie them to the tent's side stickys and also use some internal ties on the branches themselves. Btw, very nice outdoor grow.. beautiful plants.
BladeCutter
BladeCuttercommentedweek 85 years ago
About your N deficiency concern. You are right that it normally starts at the bottom of the plant, but if it is only a few leaves or just older leaves, it probably is not a problem. Lack of light, as you suggest, is more likely. It also tends to start at the tip of the leaf and move toward the stem. Your pictures show it starting at the stem. If it is not widespread and expanding, I wouldn't worry about it. If it gets worse over the next week, post some more pictures and I can see if I have any other suggestions. 😊
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@BladeCutter, Hey guys, we got 3 new other leaves at the bottom with N deficiency. I think the girl was proper feed, but the last watering was only with pure 175ppm water..maybe it might have helped her on loosing those soluble N..anyways, got her fed up and she is growing vigorous.. .I will update the diary later. I will let you gentlemen know, thank you
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@BillMonroe, thanks for the input! that is what I am doing, just prunning the lower branches. I took a few two days ago that were too low or would grow to shadow or too small.. those left are the ones i'm sure betting! but I think at the end of week 3, as you said, would be the best time now.. the race is open and Im cheering for them!
BillMonroe
BillMonroecommented5 years ago
@amazongrow, I agree with @BladeCutter , no worries mate. You can remove the lower branches whenever you want. If you're unsure which ones to remove, do it in week 3 or 4. You'll indeed notice that they have low amount of white hairs compared to places which are getting more light. After a while you get the hang of it and yuo will recognize which branches are gonna make only larf and waste energy. The lollipopping of branches in flower has never stressed my plants but defoliation sure has.
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Njaak
Njaakcommentedweek 75 years ago
Looking truly pro, Amazon. Great work.
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@Growing_healTHCare, thanks bro... I will be updating soon. She stretched about 1/2 until now I guess. You are welcome! Tchau, do Brazil!
Growing_healTHCare
Growing_healTHCarecommented5 years ago
@amazongrow, following this. I am a couple of weeks behind you and I am interested to see how much stretch you get. Don't worry about a few lower fans. You got a great canopy going. Looking good.
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@Njaak, thank you, bro! =) Hope she can manage well through stretch and make a good structure for the big dense buds to come! =)
Njaak
Njaakcommentedweek 15 years ago
Nice clean setup. Looking forward to watching this guy progress.
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@Njaak, Indeed. LOL! =) Thanks for the input, bro! Tchau, do Brazil! =]
Njaak
Njaakcommented5 years ago
@amazongrow, lol. they all are, physically. who's to day what they identify as?
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@Njaak, it's a girl. =] Tchau, do Brazil!
Tazard
Tazardcommentedweek 95 years ago
She looks fabulous! I would do something about the split. She’s going to get heavy. Maybe lift up the two branches and support them and then also run a piece of wire so the split is held together.
Tazard
Tazardcommented5 years ago
@amazongrow, she will be fine I have no doubt. Stem splitting is a viable option to gain multiple tops so an accidental split really doesn’t effect anything except for the open wound. However, when purposely stem splitting it’s difficult to do because a newly formed stem is so small in diameter.
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@Tazard, I just taped and suppoted but could not get tem together. i also GoT sad and defoliated and took the little branches. She is lighter and the light is more through. Lets see if she grow some big leaves on top. She was too small at tops with much stretch I thought. Hope she can manage and still produce some heavy buds As She is a lonely child. Thanks for the visit
GreenHouseLab
GreenHouseLabcommentedweek 164 years ago
Can never go wrong with Barney’s Farm 🔥👍
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented4 years ago
@GreenHouseLab, Indeed. Loved this strain and it's potency. =]
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommentedweek 135 years ago
I imagine everytime you open the tent you must just smile ear to ear. It's a beautiful girl an you're doing a hell of a job with her. A burnt tip here and there, meh. Looks great to me!👌 I wish you the absolute best of luck this week as you start to wrap her up. And it is interesting that her trichs are already bursting with the amount of time left. I take it as a good sign. She's just pushing and pushing. Awesome. Cheers my friend. Happy grows.😀
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, thanks for the kind words. Indeed she looks beautiful and I hope she will get heavier on the next weeks. Maybe the stem breaking give a bust on the trichs, uh? I too find that she has much of it. The smell is great and the colas are sticking to each others sometimes... I've never seen that before! Any last peace of advice for the rippening? =) Thcau, do Brazil! =)
Tazard
Tazardcommentedweek 105 years ago
She looks like she should fill in really nice. If you take the top few fan leaves off the tall branch it will not get much taller 😉.
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@Tazard, Thanks for the tip, bro! =]
BudXs
BudXscommentedweek 25 years ago
Excellent strain. Looking forward to seeing her thrive in that clean set up
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@BudXs, thank you, bro. I hope I can keep her safe and happy. Tchau, do Brazil! =]
Visions
Visionscommentedweek 15 years ago
Cant wait to see what my future looks like 👌
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@Visions, You are welcome, bro! =]
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommentedweek 105 years ago
It's looking really good man, even with the big stretch you had. But the big girl ain't really burning or cupping so I think you're safe! You're more then on your way with these girls. Healthy, happy and BIG. Continued success my friend. All is well, great work (watch that stretch next time, lol!)😉👌
JP148
JP148commentedweek 95 years ago
Looking good. I think I see symptoms that you may need Cal-Mag of some sort.
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@@JP148, I gave her full recommended dosage today, with some RO water I bought. 5l. She didnt even care. Let's see tomorrow. =) The runoff was the same as I put.. so I guess she is feeding everything. Thanks for the inputs, bro! Let's go forward! =) Tchau, do Brazil!
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@@JP148, dude, that got me SO SAD at first.. but Im ok with it now. I hope you are too. =)
JP148
JP148commented5 years ago
@amazongrow, no shit , I was just opening up my GG to allow more light penetration and I just split the trunk down the middle. Split about 1.25 in deep. Wired the two half’s together. 🤞 Fuck, Shit, Piss! I am not a happy camper. She’ll heal 🙏🙏🙏🤞😭
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JP148
JP148commentedweek 135 years ago
Lovely long colas. Nice job. 👏👍🌱
JP148
JP148commented5 years ago
@amazongrow, my GG#1 is the plant I split the trunk. No sweat I we learn to deal.
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@@JP148, I thought it at first... but now I think she steped up.... the buds smell amazing and stick to each other! =] What is the link for your split girl diary?
JP148
JP148commented5 years ago
@amazongrow, thanks this grow is incredibly healthy even the split trunk. I am finding the flowering progress of split trunk plant has slowed noticeably. Long way to go may still take off.
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JP148
JP148commentedweek 95 years ago
She looks great . What a stretch. I would loosen some of your ties. It will heal and scar up but you have to take some tension off. Otherwise as the stem grows it will continue to split I think.
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@Growing_healTHCare, it's on 120W now, 3000/4000k... from the tests of similar products using the same LED I guess around 500-700 at the center at 30cm or so... but I raised the lights to 45cm when she did the first stretch, damn! Next time I will leave it like 20-30cm all the way. I want a short and dense bud, no need to be tall, but heavy. Not now though. =) She had some minor twisted and yellow growth at early flowering so I thought it might be the light was to close and got from 30cm to 45cm... I'm guessing she didn't like that much know. Not next time. =) I have a trellis. I will put it on the saturday. =] Thanks for the input, bro, much appreciated!
Growing_healTHCare
Growing_healTHCarecommented5 years ago
@amazongrow, a homemade 1/2 PVC trellis is pretty cheap to make and you can weave it in between the stems to give it support. PVC is cheap here anyway. Put in some screws and weave in twine. You can support them with twine to the main stalk or from above but I prefer a quick trellis. Do you know what you PPFD was at canopy level during the stretch? Not sure if the 60 watt LED shown in the description is correct or not. You may have gotten extra stretch from lack of photons. I hope so or I will be super cropping :)
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@amazongrow, Looking good brother. That split! Oof, but taped up nice. This is unsolicited advice, but have you considered plant yoyos hung from a horizontal string line to take all the pressure off those laterals? I know you already did some work and I'll check it next update👍. Just a thought! Cheers man. Have a good week with her☺️
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Island
Islandcommentedweek 105 years ago
ela ta maravilhosa, mas e essa umidade ai? 80% Oo tem algum plano pra aliviar ela ao longo da flora?
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@Growing_healTHCare, LOL... yeah man, I know all of that and at first I tried but I can't fight nature, no money for AC, small grow. It is what it is. I've had the previous grows with the same humidity and I know I will never have a 100% top notch product because I dont have the necessary climate conditions.. but still I'm here and trying to improve and manage things with what I have. =) During the summer it gets to 32C in there. I think that is worse then humidity. Actually my VPD is on the avarage for veg and early flower because of the temperature. But I can not get humidity to 40-50 in flower, no way! =) I have a good extractor I use neem cake meal. No bugs, no mildew, nothing. Gone. Since I started using it I had no problems. Drying and curing is a whole different subject, but still I had no problems with mold, but I take care and clean. Thanks for the input again bro, much appreciated! =) Tchau!
Growing_healTHCare
Growing_healTHCarecommented5 years ago
@amazongrow, look into VPD. You can get away with higher humidity(though 80 is a bit much) if you raise the temperature. You need really good airflow to keep away the mold and pest that come with high humidity and temperature's though. 80 really needs to come down the further you go into flower though. Once the stretch fills in with foliage it is going to be like a jungle in there.
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@Island, No plants. There is no way to fight it. =)
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommentedweek 145 years ago
Oh man! Looking so great and getting faaaat. Haha. Coming up to the finish line👍. Good luck this week and have fun. Cheers🙂
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@amazongrow, No doubt man! I was wondering where you disappeared too. Welcome back! Going to check your harvest right now🙂👍👌
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, long time no see! Hope you and your family are safe and sound! Just updated with the weight and some other photos... I have a clone now flowering that I got from her.. and reveged! I will create a small diary for it soon.. Cheers, from Brazil!
Island
Islandcommentedweek 164 years ago
Lindos buds bro, bela colheita, parabens =)
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented4 years ago
@Island, valeu garoto! =)
Hazeterpz
Hazeterpzcommentedweek 164 years ago
Hello i really like the way you main-lined it and made such a superb plant out of it, my question now is how many grams did you make in total out of that plant ? Cause 500 grams for a 120w led looks a lot to me and didn’t really understand the g/w and everything at the harvest stage. Really nice job 👍🏼 💯
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented4 years ago
@Hazeterpz, thank you bró! I have a 120w dual 3000/4000 Samsung Led Quantum Board. I do one at a time and giver time to grow. I got around 100-120 grams dryed so yup around 500-600 wet - she is a big girl and Im revegging her clone! Will put a diary soon!
MiPotFarm
MiPotFarmcommentedweek 115 years ago
Looking good brother 😎💯🔥💨
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@MiPotFarm, thank you... bro! =) Tchau, do Brazil!
Island
Islandcommentedweek 75 years ago
Que lindo mano, ja pode começar a fazer uma limpeza nos ramos inferiores, ja da inclusive pra colocar pra florescer. Vai deixar 8 topos?
amazongrow
amazongrowcommented5 years ago
@Island, deixei os 8 e ainda subiram mais 4 de dentro que acho que vao dar bem, e tbm uns dos braços dos maiores que estao chegando na luz.. olhai as ultimas fotos... espero conseguir deixar todos, mas se algum nao ficar em cima e com bons nós, vou tirar no fim da semana 3... =-)