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amazongrow amazongrow
4 years ago
Hey bros, A few leaves went down alongside a few branches, and I tried to mend the branches with no success, so I got her back to her position and on the 63 day photos she looks kinda sad and twisted, because of that and of the feeding. On the other day she was ok and praying thanking for her beutiful shape and life. I hope her tiny buds get bud.. i think she stretched much with few nodes/buds.. i hope they grow and get together on their colas... Light is superclose like 10cm from highest cola.. No burning or drying until now... and everyday she gets close, even after the break there were no day she has stopped growing. Jesus, what a vigorous girl! By the shape of the leaves I think I got a more sativa pheno, am I wrong? Btw, when I went to mend and tried to get the stem together I felt it and it was already strong.. but still I've taped it and did a safe measure taping the 4 inner nodes together just in case. I will also support the main colas through a wire from the trent lateral tubes - not I deal but I think they can handle. I will do everything next saturday. The listed feed volumes are for the week not every feed. Im on a 3 feed 1 watering schedule giving 1/4 + 1/2 + 1/4 recommended dosage and she is not showing any signs of overfeeding. Little leaf tips, just a few. But when I get the nutes up she N deficiency from bottom kinda stopped. I noticed it shows almost on the other day after a water feeding... =) Hey bros, just updated. Ive put the trellis and spaced the branches, Ive cut off most of the popcorn buds and little leaves that would develop on the little branches. The colas were untouch as all the main bud made up the net. Im beginning to think I might get a good yield finally. What do you think? Thanks for the visit! =] Tchau, do Brazil!
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Grow Questions
amazongrow
amazongrowstarted grow question 4 years ago
Should I defoliate? Why and when? Please, give a reference from a respected grower or paper/article. Thank you!
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Techniques. Defoliation
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JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hello there, I hope I can help with this one and I do have a link for you that I'll post below, along with a member that defo's on this site. Firstly if you're to defo, the majority of it should be taken before entering flower. Not 100% necessary, but defo in Veg allows the plant to recover much faster then when she's in bloom. I would do the majority of any defo you need to do a week before flower. When in flower, you can take fan leaves as you please but I would limit how much you take at a time, taking only 2 or 3 at a time, per day until you have what you want. This is all to reduce stress and encourage fast recovery. In veg, take what you want but ensure it's either directly before or after a feeding. The nutrients added will help her rebound much quicker. Why defo? Mostly to open up the canopy to light and air. Shoots and flowers below a bushy canopy will be under-developed and will probably become LARF (shake). By strategically defo'ing leaves that are blocking potential colas/shoots, we expose to air and light. These shoots will then grow like crazy and roughly match canopy and the size of your other tops. On to your plants. You trained them very well and there does not seem to be any light/air being blocked out. Your tops are all nice and far from each other, even height and their fans should not interfere with their individual growth. If a fan leaf does get in the way, you can take it, but I suggest massaging the fan stem out of the way first. A trick "naturalist's" use. Massaging the fan leaf stem between your forefinger and thumb, gently, will allow you to soften it up and direct it into the position you please. This isn't permanent and the fan will probably migrate back to its original position within 24-48 hours. BUT, this method allows us to keep out sugar maker, cause zero stress and still get the results we're looking for (light/air canopy penetration). Just takes a little more of your time to maintain the process. SO! at this time, I don't feel there's any 'necessary' defo to do on your girls. As they grow and get bushier you may like to take some fans at that time. For now, I'd suggest keeping all your sugar makers until or unless they actually become a problem and get in the way. Here is a link to growweedeasy pertaining to defo, why we do it, when we do it and the benefits of doing it with overly bushy girls. https://www.growweedeasy.com/defoliation. I'm looking for a contact I know who does defo and I will send you their diary link and/or name in PM, I just need time to source it. I hope this helped you in some way and if you need anything else, drop me a PM and I shall see if I know anything about it. Cheers, looking great and definitely on your way๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜‰
amazongrow
amazongrowstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hey bros, take a look at the last Day 102 pics, mold... what do you think? Does not smell like it, comes from outside. Looks like a bunch of white pistils together. I've cut one of to examine further with the mic. I will update the pics later. Oh, and also, one more week to go?
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chasv77
chasv77answered grow question 4 years ago
Mold or genetics???? I have a GG#4 in 8th week of flower, and I have three top buds that are actually developing cotton tops in the center of their buds. I would think mold would be thinner and more widespread.
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ButtersStotch
ButtersStotchweek 9
Hey man great grow so far! Shitty about the split but there is definitely lots of hope, similar breaks happened on my outdoor this year during flower and tape and time healed everything! My first mainline is going on now too and after seeing what unfortunately happened to your girl I'm going to support the main stem before the same happens to me. Good luck with the rest of your grow man, I'll be following!
amazongrow
amazongrow
@ButtersStotch, thanks for the visit bro! yeah, that was sad but she keeps growing like a champ! I will tape it tomorrow to give a little help. Hope she gets heavy after that. I will be supporting my mains two, I will tie them to the tent's side stickys and also use some internal ties on the branches themselves. Btw, very nice outdoor grow.. beautiful plants.
BladeCutter
BladeCutterweek 8
About your N deficiency concern. You are right that it normally starts at the bottom of the plant, but if it is only a few leaves or just older leaves, it probably is not a problem. Lack of light, as you suggest, is more likely. It also tends to start at the tip of the leaf and move toward the stem. Your pictures show it starting at the stem. If it is not widespread and expanding, I wouldn't worry about it. If it gets worse over the next week, post some more pictures and I can see if I have any other suggestions. ๐Ÿ˜Š
amazongrow
amazongrow
@BladeCutter, Hey guys, we got 3 new other leaves at the bottom with N deficiency. I think the girl was proper feed, but the last watering was only with pure 175ppm water..maybe it might have helped her on loosing those soluble N..anyways, got her fed up and she is growing vigorous.. .I will update the diary later. I will let you gentlemen know, thank you
amazongrow
amazongrow
@BillMonroe, thanks for the input! that is what I am doing, just prunning the lower branches. I took a few two days ago that were too low or would grow to shadow or too small.. those left are the ones i'm sure betting! but I think at the end of week 3, as you said, would be the best time now.. the race is open and Im cheering for them!
BillMonroe
BillMonroe
@amazongrow, I agree with @BladeCutter , no worries mate. You can remove the lower branches whenever you want. If you're unsure which ones to remove, do it in week 3 or 4. You'll indeed notice that they have low amount of white hairs compared to places which are getting more light. After a while you get the hang of it and yuo will recognize which branches are gonna make only larf and waste energy. The lollipopping of branches in flower has never stressed my plants but defoliation sure has.
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Njaak
Njaakweek 7
Looking truly pro, Amazon. Great work.
amazongrow
amazongrow
@Growing_healTHCare, thanks bro... I will be updating soon. She stretched about 1/2 until now I guess. You are welcome! Tchau, do Brazil!
Growing_healTHCare
Growing_healTHCare
@amazongrow, following this. I am a couple of weeks behind you and I am interested to see how much stretch you get. Don't worry about a few lower fans. You got a great canopy going. Looking good.
amazongrow
amazongrow
@Njaak, thank you, bro! =) Hope she can manage well through stretch and make a good structure for the big dense buds to come! =)
Njaak
Njaakweek 1
Nice clean setup. Looking forward to watching this guy progress.
amazongrow
amazongrow
@Njaak, Indeed. LOL! =) Thanks for the input, bro! Tchau, do Brazil! =]
Njaak
Njaak
@amazongrow, lol. they all are, physically. who's to day what they identify as?
amazongrow
amazongrow
@Njaak, it's a girl. =] Tchau, do Brazil!
Tazard
Tazardweek 9
She looks fabulous! I would do something about the split. Sheโ€™s going to get heavy. Maybe lift up the two branches and support them and then also run a piece of wire so the split is held together.
Tazard
Tazard
@amazongrow, she will be fine I have no doubt. Stem splitting is a viable option to gain multiple tops so an accidental split really doesnโ€™t effect anything except for the open wound. However, when purposely stem splitting itโ€™s difficult to do because a newly formed stem is so small in diameter.
amazongrow
amazongrow
@Tazard, I just taped and suppoted but could not get tem together. i also GoT sad and defoliated and took the little branches. She is lighter and the light is more through. Lets see if she grow some big leaves on top. She was too small at tops with much stretch I thought. Hope she can manage and still produce some heavy buds As She is a lonely child. Thanks for the visit
GreenHouseLab
GreenHouseLabweek 16
Can never go wrong with Barneyโ€™s Farm ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ‘
amazongrow
amazongrow
@GreenHouseLab, Indeed. Loved this strain and it's potency. =]
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowsweek 13
I imagine everytime you open the tent you must just smile ear to ear. It's a beautiful girl an you're doing a hell of a job with her. A burnt tip here and there, meh. Looks great to me!๐Ÿ‘Œ I wish you the absolute best of luck this week as you start to wrap her up. And it is interesting that her trichs are already bursting with the amount of time left. I take it as a good sign. She's just pushing and pushing. Awesome. Cheers my friend. Happy grows.๐Ÿ˜€
amazongrow
amazongrow
@JinksyGrows, thanks for the kind words. Indeed she looks beautiful and I hope she will get heavier on the next weeks. Maybe the stem breaking give a bust on the trichs, uh? I too find that she has much of it. The smell is great and the colas are sticking to each others sometimes... I've never seen that before! Any last peace of advice for the rippening? =) Thcau, do Brazil! =)
Tazard
Tazardweek 10
She looks like she should fill in really nice. If you take the top few fan leaves off the tall branch it will not get much taller ๐Ÿ˜‰.
amazongrow
amazongrow
@Tazard, Thanks for the tip, bro! =]
BudXs
BudXsweek 2
Excellent strain. Looking forward to seeing her thrive in that clean set up
amazongrow
amazongrow
@BudXs, thank you, bro. I hope I can keep her safe and happy. Tchau, do Brazil! =]
Visions
Visionsweek 1
Cant wait to see what my future looks like ๐Ÿ‘Œ
amazongrow
amazongrow
@Visions, You are welcome, bro! =]
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowsweek 10
It's looking really good man, even with the big stretch you had. But the big girl ain't really burning or cupping so I think you're safe! You're more then on your way with these girls. Healthy, happy and BIG. Continued success my friend. All is well, great work (watch that stretch next time, lol!)๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ‘Œ
JP148
JP148week 9
Looking good. I think I see symptoms that you may need Cal-Mag of some sort.
amazongrow
amazongrow
@@JP148, I gave her full recommended dosage today, with some RO water I bought. 5l. She didnt even care. Let's see tomorrow. =) The runoff was the same as I put.. so I guess she is feeding everything. Thanks for the inputs, bro! Let's go forward! =) Tchau, do Brazil!
amazongrow
amazongrow
@@JP148, dude, that got me SO SAD at first.. but Im ok with it now. I hope you are too. =)
JP148
JP148
@amazongrow, no shit , I was just opening up my GG to allow more light penetration and I just split the trunk down the middle. Split about 1.25 in deep. Wired the two halfโ€™s together. ๐Ÿคž Fuck, Shit, Piss! I am not a happy camper. Sheโ€™ll heal ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿคž๐Ÿ˜ญ
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Blacklisted
Blacklistedweek 9
oh fuck ! TIE THAT SHIT DOWN ! :) put some sticky duck tape into it and thats it ,happy growing ! btw i was scammed by green buzz of my rightfuly won prize ! SUPER DUPER ,dont join greenbuzz liquids giveaways anytime soon ;)
amazongrow
amazongrow
@@JP148, oh fuck! I will check it out! Indeed she will heal. =)
JP148
JP148
@amazongrow, Jus split the trunk on my GG . Itโ€™s Just like yours. Mine a little deeper. Oh well , I told you yours would heal. I guess mine should. Wired two half together. ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿคž
amazongrow
amazongrow
@Growing_healTHCare, LOL bro! This plant is a monster, she is still growing as fuck! Flowering Day 14 by now.. there is a cola which is about 15cm from the light and getting up everyday... jesus! If I put the lights down again she might go even higher!!! but as the colas are evenly spaced the light is getting through the plant almost to all the leaves... little defo on day 21 I think. As for the split, I hope this doesnt diminish my yield so much as I'm a one plant operation...I will tape it tomorrow and put some ties from the tent to the main stems.. just in case. =) The stem is already thicker with some balls rising on both sides... she is healing but I hope not in detriment of those buds... =/
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JP148
JP148week 13
Lovely long colas. Nice job. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐ŸŒฑ
JP148
JP148
@amazongrow, my GG#1 is the plant I split the trunk. No sweat I we learn to deal.
amazongrow
amazongrow
@@JP148, I thought it at first... but now I think she steped up.... the buds smell amazing and stick to each other! =] What is the link for your split girl diary?
JP148
JP148
@amazongrow, thanks this grow is incredibly healthy even the split trunk. I am finding the flowering progress of split trunk plant has slowed noticeably. Long way to go may still take off.
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JP148
JP148week 9
She looks great . What a stretch. I would loosen some of your ties. It will heal and scar up but you have to take some tension off. Otherwise as the stem grows it will continue to split I think.
amazongrow
amazongrow
@Growing_healTHCare, it's on 120W now, 3000/4000k... from the tests of similar products using the same LED I guess around 500-700 at the center at 30cm or so... but I raised the lights to 45cm when she did the first stretch, damn! Next time I will leave it like 20-30cm all the way. I want a short and dense bud, no need to be tall, but heavy. Not now though. =) She had some minor twisted and yellow growth at early flowering so I thought it might be the light was to close and got from 30cm to 45cm... I'm guessing she didn't like that much know. Not next time. =) I have a trellis. I will put it on the saturday. =] Thanks for the input, bro, much appreciated!
Growing_healTHCare
Growing_healTHCare
@amazongrow, a homemade 1/2 PVC trellis is pretty cheap to make and you can weave it in between the stems to give it support. PVC is cheap here anyway. Put in some screws and weave in twine. You can support them with twine to the main stalk or from above but I prefer a quick trellis. Do you know what you PPFD was at canopy level during the stretch? Not sure if the 60 watt LED shown in the description is correct or not. You may have gotten extra stretch from lack of photons. I hope so or I will be super cropping :)
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@amazongrow, Looking good brother. That split! Oof, but taped up nice. This is unsolicited advice, but have you considered plant yoyos hung from a horizontal string line to take all the pressure off those laterals? I know you already did some work and I'll check it next update๐Ÿ‘. Just a thought! Cheers man. Have a good week with herโ˜บ๏ธ
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Island
Islandweek 10
ela ta maravilhosa, mas e essa umidade ai? 80% Oo tem algum plano pra aliviar ela ao longo da flora?
amazongrow
amazongrow
@Growing_healTHCare, LOL... yeah man, I know all of that and at first I tried but I can't fight nature, no money for AC, small grow. It is what it is. I've had the previous grows with the same humidity and I know I will never have a 100% top notch product because I dont have the necessary climate conditions.. but still I'm here and trying to improve and manage things with what I have. =) During the summer it gets to 32C in there. I think that is worse then humidity. Actually my VPD is on the avarage for veg and early flower because of the temperature. But I can not get humidity to 40-50 in flower, no way! =) I have a good extractor I use neem cake meal. No bugs, no mildew, nothing. Gone. Since I started using it I had no problems. Drying and curing is a whole different subject, but still I had no problems with mold, but I take care and clean. Thanks for the input again bro, much appreciated! =) Tchau!
Growing_healTHCare
Growing_healTHCare
@amazongrow, look into VPD. You can get away with higher humidity(though 80 is a bit much) if you raise the temperature. You need really good airflow to keep away the mold and pest that come with high humidity and temperature's though. 80 really needs to come down the further you go into flower though. Once the stretch fills in with foliage it is going to be like a jungle in there.
amazongrow
amazongrow
@Island, No plants. There is no way to fight it. =)
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowsweek 14
Oh man! Looking so great and getting faaaat. Haha. Coming up to the finish line๐Ÿ‘. Good luck this week and have fun. Cheers๐Ÿ™‚
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@amazongrow, No doubt man! I was wondering where you disappeared too. Welcome back! Going to check your harvest right now๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Œ
amazongrow
amazongrow
@JinksyGrows, long time no see! Hope you and your family are safe and sound! Just updated with the weight and some other photos... I have a clone now flowering that I got from her.. and reveged! I will create a small diary for it soon.. Cheers, from Brazil!
Island
Islandweek 16
Lindos buds bro, bela colheita, parabens =)
amazongrow
amazongrow
@Island, valeu garoto! =)
Hazeterpz
Hazeterpzweek 16
Hello i really like the way you main-lined it and made such a superb plant out of it, my question now is how many grams did you make in total out of that plant ? Cause 500 grams for a 120w led looks a lot to me and didnโ€™t really understand the g/w and everything at the harvest stage. Really nice job ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ ๐Ÿ’ฏ
amazongrow
amazongrow
@Hazeterpz, thank you brรณ! I have a 120w dual 3000/4000 Samsung Led Quantum Board. I do one at a time and giver time to grow. I got around 100-120 grams dryed so yup around 500-600 wet - she is a big girl and Im revegging her clone! Will put a diary soon!
MiPotFarm
MiPotFarmweek 11
Looking good brother ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’จ
amazongrow
amazongrow
@MiPotFarm, thank you... bro! =) Tchau, do Brazil!