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weeks 10
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weeks 5-13
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TheBudWhisperer TheBudWhisperer
5 years ago
Week 8 update - 2nd week of the stretch and she’s behaving exactly as we’d hoped, push’s out full inches each day. As per the day-by-day photos from last week; it’s a daily chore of constant tucking and tying to get the stems tracking outwards while they’re still pliable. She’s likely gonna need a good prune this week as well. Just to maintain some more exposure to the less developed secondaries which are now starting to run out behind the main growth tips. We fall squarely in between the detractors and proponents of defoliation. You need the leaves to advance growth but you also need to free up the less developed tips to get max light and stretch to the net. The hope is that she’s still got a ton of stretch in ‘er for the next 2 weeks of transition. There’s still ample space around the perimeter so ideally she’s full by week 10 for the flower show🤞🤞🤞. All’s still extremely well in here. I can’t wait to see how this ones gonna turn out. Mar. 6 update - this is the formative part of the grow that’s the most interesting - trying to get a sense of what’s expected to stretch up and ultimately become the bud bed that we’re look’n for. Chopped out a ton of foliage today and I hate do’n it but it was necessary. Even if it was only to see where the ties were - it was so bloody dense for just a couple node layers of fans. Good thing is that we found multiple potential secondaries around the middle. Well see where she ends up through this week and look to drop back on the pruning to straight maintenance after week 9/10. Until then it’s constant daily tucking and tying and where necessary, pruning or defoliating for more even exposure. Background For those not in the know, SSSC has been around for 40 years. Out of Amsterdam, they are the 2nd such breeder to market their genetics worldwide and can lay claim to the origins of their beans better than most (if not all) others. They’ve produced here an indica hybrid cross of M33/Friesland Indica with an elite clone of Lava Cake. We’re hoping to encounter one of the purple phenos but only time will tell. She’s supposed to be super strong too and not for the faint of heart 👍. We’ve been wait’n on this grow awhile and she’ll be getting individual treatment in the small cab - 5gal. Coco w/perlite and the typical nute regimen. Also got the light on full blast the whole grow as I’ve been told that results are actually better when using a VS fixture (we’ll see I guess). ***update*** the vipar finally shit the bed and all the veg. Diodes burnt out. This light owes us nothing for how many grows it’s been on top of. Swapped out to a 100w Spider Farmer Quantum Board and plants are loving it. Gonna SCROG it if she’s got the bush for it. Advance props to these guys for the best packaging I’ve ever seen (although you may need to be an 80’s baby or older to truly appreciate it😉). See week 1 photos.
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 55 years ago
After a lot of back and forth with some of my partners in crime - finally settled on an appropriate replacement fixture for the box. A QB from Spider Farmer. Many thanks to @silverback_guerilla, @silky_smooth, @drphilgood, @mr_h_kovert, @satori_hanso, @greenmachine, @hellishjam - all the input, knowledge and web links were greatly appreciated dudes/dudettes 👊👊👊
ButtersStotch
ButtersStotchcommentedweek 154 years ago
Nice thorough diary man! And congrats on the win!
ButtersStotch
ButtersStotchcommented4 years ago
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented4 years ago
@ButtersStotch, see reply below😂
Wilson_McNugget
Wilson_McNuggetcommentedweek 135 years ago
Grand Master....can I ask you something....THIS I JUST FIGURED OUT...BY ACCIDENT...BUT I WAS RIGHT..... I had OVERLY GREEN PLANTS ONE FOR SURE....looks like NITRO TOX..BUT NO TIP BURN....its a Major lock out...BUT WHY????? IRON IN THE CAL MAG......PLUS IN MY CASE I HAD EXTRA IRON IN THE DR REPAIR... so I FOUND OUT IT IS ALSO CAUSING CAL SULFUR MAG B1 EVERYTHING DEF....HIDONG AS A GREEN IRON TOXIC PLANT.... I used Demeter's Destiny Liquid Calcium 12ml/g flushed with half gallon on two gallon pots.... THAT DID IT GOT IT ALL UNLOCKED...BUT THATS NOT ENOUGH..... I then used a 330ppm Demeter's Destiny 2.25ml/g. Calcium Madusas Magic 1.25ml/g. 2-5-2 some micros Zeus Juice 1.25ml/g 5% humid acid Magnum 1.25ml/g 2% mag 2% sulfur with B1 Potash plus 2.25ml/g 0-4-6 1% sulfur I would prefer CRYSTAL BLAST...no additional sulfur... YOU AE IRON TOXIC....YOUR CAL MAG IS FULL OF IRON.....THATS ONLY NEEDED FOR STRAIGHT HYDRO.... JUST SAYING......anything other then PLAIN COCO has iron already....even coco has stuff when you have the RIGHT CALCIUM.... NOPE I GOT LUCKY STUMBLED UPON IT....took about five hours of boredom reading..
Wilson_McNugget
Wilson_McNuggetcommented5 years ago
@TheBudWhisperer, well I have been trying to SIMPLIFY it....thats why I made a change, and I am now using some nutrient rich substrates... I was using Dr. Repair as it is recommended.....and for Hydro...well yeah the extra iron is probably needed.... My main problem with CYCO was lack of calcium.....even though they separate it into A & B parts......but I have had hallow stems.....veg stretch.....weaker branches.... I have been looking at a lot of things......it all started out as a CAL DEF....we assumed...peoole on the site and myself...... Well I addressed that had a pretty good first harvest 1lb a full GORDY....half was very yummy...half not so much.... And yes, I was hammering the plants....going full blown to see if its possible to follow the outrageous feeding schedules..... Maybe outside it is possible???? Yeah I am a very good mushroom grower...and Temps along with humidity make all the difference, along with enough fresh air.... I have improved my grow conditions....now I have a substrate mix that provides my micros, so I should not need to worry about being deficient in anything...... The main line one plant would be much better if I had the proper calcium uptake early on..... Actually it makes a lot of sense and goes along with what I think I figured out..... I spent a couple trim seasons in Humboldt county so im not totally ignorant..... Basically what you are saying is my new line up is probably better since it is simpler.... I agree with you, but in this specific case for the one plant in Happy Frog, which does have more iron hen my other substrate.....I made it iron toxic out of ignorance....not just using a Iron supplement product.....but yes over feeding Yeah I too them down pretty on the defoliation....but it was needed to stuff them all in the 4*4 instead of spreading out like I usually do in the 4*8 They look good....I got my first real sugar leaves this early....since I have been going much lighter on the nut's this grow...... Thanks for the advice......my original question I should have asked....do you think you coco grow is a bit darker because of more iron??????
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@@Wilson_McNugget, not exactly bud - I wasn’t under the impression you were looking for advice yourself based on the comment. That said, I did take a look at your plants and they look great👍. Heavy on the defo with the autos but they seem to be happy with it. That mainline is stripped bare and a little ruthless for me but if you grow it out a little longer you’ve def. got the base for an awesome mainline. As far as nute deficiencies and lockout go - if you’re new to growing you’re going to find that troubleshooting specific deficiencies can be maddening as hell. The reason is due to the fact that there are so many different “limiting factors” at play on any grow that isolating any specific one nutrient element is a hard thing to do without a perfect environment. By limiting factors I mean - light, temp, humidity, pot size and type, watering/feeding practices and of course, training. My best advice (if that’s what you’re looking for) is to keep it simpler than isolating a specific nute deficiency. Iron is a perfect example - you need a real fuck ton of that to build up a toxicity so often times, this will simply be an indicator of a larger underlying problem. My grow is a perfect example - you may be right that there is an iron toxicity but that’s only an indicator of the larger problem which is actually a full nute lockout due to too potent a mix. I’d never stress 1ml/L (like 5ml per feeding) of an iron containing calmag to be the main culprit for iron toxicity. I’d be more concerned that the other 10ml/L of all the other stuff is simply too high a concentration for the plant to take it up properly. In other words and regardless of the specific problem; you’re solution is much simpler than micro adjustments of individual nutrient elements - it’s a simple reduction of all nutrients within the medium overall. I tend to be more holistic about nutrient regimens than most - Light, air and stable temps are the limiting factors I’m most concerned with - nutrients are simply the supplements that the plant uses as it needs them - regardless of how much you’re putting Into the medium the plant is only going to use what it needs. With any nute regimen you can usually derive almost all required elements from a decent base nute - I just happen to have a few more than that to experiment with these days. Hope it makes sense and good luck with your grows👍😎🤙
Wilson_McNugget
Wilson_McNuggetcommented5 years ago
@TheBudWhisperer, hey no problem.....ive been testing my first five grows now..got my first FLIP PHOTO right now....some heavy training one main line the other looks like groot..and one a football or star phish......all stretched out......it sounds like you are agreeing that what I think I have a problem with.....is probably my problem.... my auto's are looking great and I'm getting my best REAL SUGAR leaves this early into flower....and I am getting into the sixth week now on a 10-11wek plant....??? Maybe 12? Not trying to say I know whats going on....just trying to figure it out.....im pretty happy this time in 2 gallon root Master gro pro pots....using strawberry fields and CYCO Seamix coco together after starting in happy frog 0.3g air pot germination seedling... YOU HAVE GREAT STUFF.....I was looking for an educated opinion.......I think Iron makes bigger buds...but to much makes low thc airy buds???? while the mag, sul, p, k. and cal get locked out after VEG.....if the iron levels are still to high????? In substrate containing iron for sure.... only in my HAPPY FROG 2gal gro pro root master pot do I have the iron toxicity...but the others were on there way there...getting darker as flower went on...... CYCO Seamix coco alone has the morph self topping plant...crazy main lined itself..an auto.....I slowed her down moved her to a five gallon pot coco loco strawberry fields mix 2 to 5g transplant....my photos are in 9 gallon gro pro root masters pots...... From 0.3g air pots to 2g to 5gal to 9 gal.......roots looked nice each time stress free transplants... Just trying to get the best quality medicine possible..... Thank you for taking the time to get back to me.......I am getting rid of all extra iron....for my coco peat pearl nutrient mix...I need no iron......
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 35 years ago
@SuperSativaSeedClub - bean’s popped and growth has been look’n good👍. Thanks again for the prompt shipping and we’re hoping this ones an all-timer👌. Cheers!
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreencommentedweek 15 years ago
Hahah you're so right! That's some super sweet packaging! I saw some transformers the other day that turn into tapes...must be making a come back. Lol
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@Experimentgreen, I think u can make that argument and I’d def. be clicking that HST button for sure👍. And I’ll def. check that blue monkey too
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreencommented5 years ago
@TheBudWhisperer, actually...speaking of outdoor, i sprouted a blue monkey seed this week and it was doing incredible!..... until i accidentally bumped it over and it kinda spilled out. So i gently put it back in it's cup....and if it survives this crash, It's destined to have a spot in the garden this year.😂 *I did wonder, if you shock and damage a plant this young do i get to call it "high stress training "?
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@Experimentgreen, Leave that to Mother Nature! She can be a right cold bitch at the very worst of times am I right?! Hope she turns out like that shaman diddle ya though that’s for sure👍.
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Rock_n_Roll_Randy
Rock_n_Roll_Randycommentedweek 154 years ago
Haha nice review for the bio tabs. I wo t be trying those🤣🤣🤣 I only like fresh asshole smell🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rock_n_Roll_Randy
Rock_n_Roll_Randycommented4 years ago
@TheBudWhisperer,haha you are hilarious bro 🤣. Definitely not buying that shit🤣🤣
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented4 years ago
@Rock_n_Roll_Randy, combined with dead rat and decaying horse penis unfortunately🤣
Rock_n_Roll_Randy
Rock_n_Roll_Randycommented4 years ago
@TheBudWhisperer,haha obviously not if you say it's rotten asshole 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Punchman
Punchmancommentedweek 145 years ago
Still looking good! 💪🏾
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@Punchman, diddo bud, diddo👍😎👊
Punchman
Punchmancommented5 years ago
@TheBudWhisperer, in my opinion that’s the dope part about growing, everytime you think you mastered it you learn new ways to improve or mitigate promblems. Wish you and your fam the best during the lockdown!💪🏾
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@Punchman, thanks very much for that dude - sadly, it still goes down in the books as one of those grows that’ll always have you asking how much better it could’ve been.🤷‍♂️👊
Silky_smooth
Silky_smoothcommentedweek 145 years ago
Try to give her coconutwater from a fresh coconut....just a cup....it Will revitalize her a bit.....and she Will bounce back better....🙏❤️
Silky_smooth
Silky_smoothcommented5 years ago
@TheBudWhisperer,o yeah forgot....because here in our regular supermarket we can still find them....
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@Silky_smooth, I’d love to try that actually!.... just one problem - a coconut is gonna be pretty hard to find about now... lol - hope ur stayn safe silks!
Zenboy
Zenboycommentedweek 152 years ago
Awesome Lava Freeze video mate, I learned a lot and I giggle every time that kid dances. I"ve got one of these seeds as a freebie, going by your work, She's worth it. Thanx again, learned lots !
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented2 years ago
@@Zenboy, lol - yeah that grow was a bust at the end but a good reminder about not using every nute under the sun just because you have it. Lol. Glad you enjoyed it👍
Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfcommentedweek 154 years ago
Congrats on the win 👍
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented4 years ago
@Grey_Wolf, 😬 - kinda awkward to receive an award for fuck’n up a grow but I’ll take the seeds for sure👍. Hey if it’s at all informative or entertaining then that’s worth something I guess. Cheers dude👊
Buddha2
Buddha2commentedweek 155 years ago
Congratulations on your harvest! I'm confident taste and smell will improve by the cure. It can make a big difference! 👍
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@Buddha2, let’s hope so cuz she’s got nuth’n right now. Thanks for take’n a look!👊
ButtersStotch
ButtersStotchcommentedweek 155 years ago
Sick photos man! Great diary!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@ButtersStotch, cheers dude 🙏, burned the living holy f$&k outta her but ended up salvaging the grow - hate to think what she woulda been but what we have is actually pretty damn good following initial quality testing😉. Stay safe homie👊
Shagrath
Shagrathcommentedweek 155 years ago
Damn!! You're going to have a good harvest!! 🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@Shagrath, thanks for that bud. She isn’t going to count out to much but the frost suggests she’ll be a beauty smoke. Not long to the cure and test homie🤙😎👍👊
occultgreen420
occultgreen420commentedweek 15 years ago
wonderful strain, well grown!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@@occultgreen420, thanks dude. She’s def. some awesome genetics - not the perfect grow but no complaints for sure. Can’t wait to test it out👍😎👊
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertcommentedweek 115 years ago
quality update dubs and lady looking bang on point gromo [haven't forgotten the t ; ] big fan of hst myself - stress = swell....most of the time!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@mr_h_kovert, cheers bud and all good on the t - what/whenever is all good homie🤟👊
Silky_smooth
Silky_smoothcommentedweek 105 years ago
Looking great....very lush and green.....cant hardly wait to see this one finish....❤️🖤
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@Silky_smooth, 🙏🙏🙏👊
Silky_smooth
Silky_smoothcommentedweek 95 years ago
Filling the net up like a dream....🙏❤️
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@Silky_smooth, stop it girl you’ll make me blush😊😊😊. Lol! Budlets just popped out today👍. Thanks for take’n a peek👊
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertcommentedweek 85 years ago
coming on strong dubs. sterling work to date bro.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@mr_h_kovert, 🙏- she’s coming on strong for sure. Just a pain in the ass having to manage the stretch everyday but will be worth it👍
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertcommentedweek 65 years ago
loving the side by side shots dubs. a healthy looking lady indeed.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@mr_h_kovert, thanks as always buddy. Been an interesting 6 weeks and hopefully we’ll be starting SCROG in short order👍
Pseudo
Pseudocommentedweek 55 years ago
Wow sssc lava freeze 🤘👍
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented5 years ago
@@Pseudo, yeah dude - super excited for this one. She’s lookn to be a strong grow too so I guess we’ll see. Thanks for check’n it out👊