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agricola agricola
5 years ago
My good friend convinced me that trimming and training are paramount, so I've started with slowly defoliating the Creme de la Chems to try and get to lollipop status. They're just starting to flower, so I figured I could get away with a more aggressive approach. Because I failed to train these girls early, I'm stuck dealing with a little rain forest. What I've tried to do is trace each flower topped stalk up from the base, and trim away from the bottom up. 1/3 of the way up per day. I've now got a thick canopy, and I've been trying to just use leaf tucking and manual manipulation every few hours in order to keep the different height flowering sites in direct light. These ladies have really been thriving, and it's been such a joy to watch them grow! I like having two plants in one net pot letting them grow wild, but I think in my next grow I'll keep it to one per pot and train better from the start. As for the Super Orange Haze ... not as good. I attempted to pull the main branch over to train her to some empty space, but I was too aggressive and ended up popping her head off :(. First grow, first disaster. I took the head and stripped her/coated in clonex and pushed her into some potting soil just to see what would happen. There hasn't been enough foliage to really make me want to do any trimming, I've just tried to tie the stalks off to train them apart. I'm really sad about my mistake decapitation, but she seems to be doing well still. She's probably week 2 of flower based on others' journals. I changed the water midway through the week (which is when the videos were taken). I drained most of the water out, but roots prevented me from getting the last few gallons. When I refilled the res with RO, I measured the PPM at around 200. I have to assume that remaining nutrient was completely unbalanced leftovers, so feeding will have to just have to be experimental. My approach has been to give around 1:1 Gro vs Bloom and Micro every 2-3 days when I refill with RO. I want to build my PPM up to 1000, but slowly so that I can detect if I hit a ceiling first. It's hard to measure how much food is in the water based on PPM. CalMag is what drives it mostly, so I've been using CalMag as a sort of measuring stick. I keep the CalMag pegged to the Bloom food, but I know it's only good for initial dosing. I can't assume the plants are eating CalMag in the same proportion as anything else :(. If anyone has a line on cheap lab testing ... hit me up. I'd love to be able to test a few hundred samples at a time for NPK and trace so that I can tell (even if post facto) what was going on.
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Grow Questions
agricola
agricolastarted grow question 5 years ago
I believe I have a case of root rot. Pic attached. I just added Orca in the morning, and noticed orange foam and these roots literally hours later. Water was still under 70 from the res change sunday afternoon. Currently 68. I rinsed in tap, they look a little better. ;(
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Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfanswered grow question 5 years ago
@agricola Hi mate yes that is root rot and is more than liely caused from your nutrient solution being too warm When I grow with DWC I like to keep mine at around 17-18c as this keeps the plant happy as well as inhibiting the bad rot fom growing It can also act as a buffer if you have a slight temp spike it won't go into the danger zone but if you keep your res warmer than say 19 you run the risk of rot if it wanders higher over time . Also what is orca? is it organic? Dont mix organic with synthetics in hydro it rarely ends well
agricola
agricolastarted grow question 5 years ago
Is it better to start flushing too early, or too late? I'm going for the most sativa effects I can, which leads me to believe I want as much cloudy and as few amber trichomes as possible. Also leads me to think that "too early" is the better mistake to make.
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HiddenColorado
HiddenColoradoanswered grow question 5 years ago
Would start flushing now, but I would be checking trichomes about 4 inches down from top to get the average. I made the mistake once checking top trichomes. I thought the plant was ready but in reality it had 2 more weeks
agricola
agricolastarted grow question 5 years ago
My ghost nug grew up on the side of the tent blocked from light. She has trichs, looks super light yellow (see pics). My question is, wouldn't this be desirable? Less chlorophyll to wait on before smoking? Has anyone tried to maybe light deprive parts of their colas?
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MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanyanswered grow question 5 years ago
hi buddy the chlorophile evaporates when drying and fermenting :-) you will see that as soon as the green breaks down from the bloom ;-)
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MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanycommentedweek 85 years ago
Nice plant :-) big roots 😎
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanycommented5 years ago
@agricola,many Thanks bro 🙏🏻
agricola
agricolacommented5 years ago
@MadeInGermany, Thanks! Next time around, I'm going to do way better :). Your pictures are pretty awesome. I wish I could rotate my setup and take video like you do, it looks great!
HiddenColorado
HiddenColoradocommentedweek 95 years ago
It is also rare for a photoperiod to be ready in 5 weeks the normal and average is 7 weeks. Good luck from Colorado
agricola
agricolacommented5 years ago
@@HiddenColorado Ah yes, I need to put into the title that these are autos! I believe Mephisto only does autos? I went and charted out ~40 diaries of the closest mephisto strains to their Super Orange Haze (not many diaries for this strain) and the average chop time was about 11 weeks. I found a grower on the forums that had run these genetics twice, and their chop times were totally different. One was day 92 and the. other was I think day 70 (IIRC). These ladies drive me crazy and I end up spending hours trying to divine some formula on how to treat them perfectly... but it all may as well be voodoo to me at this point. 😂
HiddenColorado
HiddenColoradocommentedweek 85 years ago
After going back and looking at week 8 I would say they have 3 to 4 weeks left. Week 9 being one of the weeks. I would harvest between week 11 and 12.
agricola
agricolacommented5 years ago
@@HiddenColorado Thanks, after reading on this for days, I think you (and many others) are right and that I should feed the girls for at least another 1-1.5 weeks and reevaluate then. <3
MarsHydroLED
MarsHydroLEDcommentedweek 95 years ago
Beautiful! 👍🙌
agricola
agricolacommented5 years ago
@MarsHydroLED Thanks! Your light has been powering the Super Orange Haze for most of her life now, and it's helping to produce a great result so far :).
Ginger_gnome
Ginger_gnomecommentedweek 105 years ago
man those look like there going to be some tasty buds when your done. Good job.