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Twins! Eleven Roses

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LED/60W
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HID/315W
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Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks Technique
HST
weeks Technique
Topping
weeks Technique
Defoliation
weeks Technique
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
Eleven Roses
Delicious Seeds
Growing it
Easy
Resistance
Strong
My first twin bean. I immediately knew I was going to attempt to seperate them, so that's exactly what I did, and with no regrets! Both of these girls were literally the opposite of each other, both in veg and flower. Twin1 was the shorter plant in veg, but stretched the most in flower. She still only had an average stretch, but Twin2 hardly stretched much even though she seemed taller in veg. Both pheno's are very sweet in smell and flavour; Twin1 is like sugary sweet berries in taste with a very slight floral tone, whereas Twin2 is also sweet, but the floral taste is more overpowering. T2 has a nice spice to her too. It's hard to say which is the favourite as they have similar but very different tastes. They're both completely different in bud structure too; Twin1 is the winner here, as she's far more dense. Even though Twin2 produced more flowers and more weight, she wasn't as dense lower down, and suffered from some crazy foxtails due to slightly higher temps and was taken a bit further than she wanted to go. These girls were easy to grow, had great structures and are very pungent and flavourful. A pleasure to have in the Den 🐺
The Outcome
Week 16
Harvest
What's on the scales?
100
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
Harvested
2
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.48
mΒ²
ftΒ²
Grow Room size
0.32
g / watt
208.33
g / mΒ²
50
g / plant
4.17
plant / mΒ²
656.25
watt / mΒ²
Tastes like
Berries
Flowery
Sweet
Feels like
40% Sativa 60% Indica

Positive effects

Happy
Relaxed
Uplifted

Negative effects

Dry mouth
Nutrients
Never had any issues using Growth Technology Liquid Slilicon. The plants are perfectly bendable in veg and strong in structure. GT Cal-Mag wasn't used for long as I had to change. I've never had an issue with it an would recommend.
Been using the GHE base nutrient line for a long time. It works for me and I like the fact that this line is a 3 part, meaning I can feed at the ratios I wish to feed throughout a cycle and can control what is being fed exactly. In regards to Ripen, I've seen many people say it speeds up the ripening stage and can be used throughout flush, but because it has a PK value I used it the same as any other PK booster and stopped feeding to give a full 2 week flush. I've been using it in either wk 4 or 5. It's only used for one week. Everything is always super frosty and perfectly healthy so I can only put it down to the environment and what was being put in the coco!
A watery Cal-Mag and not the strongest on the market, but once dialed in it performs just as well as any other.
Commented by
TheFoxFarmer TheFoxFarmer
6 years ago
Thank you to everyone who has been following, commenting and liking each week, it's always appreciated. This was very different, but an extremely fun journey! I've definitely learned a thing or two from my experience with these mutant twins, so I hope some of you have too. I hope this diary gives more people confidence in separating them and also the proof that the smaller twin CAN be a worthy contender for keeper pheno! Twin1 dry weight - 47g Twin2 dry weight - 53g Because I have 4 seperate plants/strains in one tent, under one light, I've had to calculate these by dividing the conditions by 2 (4 plants in total sharing same conditions, 2 being 11R's). This is the fairest and only way to work it out properly. Happy growing! 🐺
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Tryhard
Tryhardweek 1
Bro I loved the twins and wow I never knew they could do that and your operation was a success fair play to you I would of been shitting my self lol
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
Haha cheers @@@Tryhard_grower πŸ‘Š I've never seen anyone seperate them before but I knew they had seperate tap roots so I thought why not! Lol it wasn't the funnest thing to do but I've got a pretty steady hand so I was confident enough to give it a go! Haha 🐺
Zannabis7
Zannabis7week 1
Twins. Interesting. Looking like healthy seedlings. Best wishes on the grow!
Zannabis7
Zannabis7
@TheFoxFarmer,πŸ‘Œ
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
Thanks @Zannabis7 πŸ‘πŸΊ
biggreens420
biggreens420week 6
Nice love the explanation about fabric pots will help some people understand for sure nice healthy roots looking good
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@biggreens420, thanks Big G ✌️ I thought I'd share my experience and opinion on them after seeing the discussion about them on another diary. Hopefully it helps anyone that's wondering about using them ✌️🐺
Herbalize
Herbalizeweek 6
Holy S... These rootss are bright white !! this is gorgeous 😍 Nice job buddy
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
Haha @Herbalize, cheers bro βœŒοΈπŸ˜‰πŸΊ
bobo420
bobo420week 12
those are some beautiful roses, good job! Maybe you should change your nick to TheRoseFarmer :)
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@bobo420, haha cheers bro πŸ˜‰πŸŒΉπŸΊ
Jack_Greenstalk
Jack_Greenstalkweek 3
I saw this grow on your IG when you were thinking about the split. i think its a good call. in my experience when kept in same pot they only grow about 1/2 size what they would seperated (two small plants sharing 1 pot vs 2 large plants in same sized but seperate pots, root competition etc leads to one showing as male/herm in some of my friends experience with twins not seperated). I must say i'm jealous you have the steady hand to make it happen I need to ask for gfs help with the finer stuff since my hands are so shakey from arthritis. following now, excited to see progress here with all the data 😁
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
Thanks @Jack_Greenstalk ✌️ I completely agree mate, that's exactly why I went for it. From what I've seen in the past from other growers, the smaller twin is either a runt throughout and herms, just like you mentioned, or dies off competely. At least this way they both have a fighting chance and are competing to be the keeper pheno! Haha I'm a carpenter so I fancied my chances πŸ˜‰ cheers! ✌️🐺
Floresdejesus
Floresdejesusweek 1
Cool story definitely following this one to the end grats on the twin babies!
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
Thanks @Floresdejesus πŸ‘Š it should make an interesting diary that's for sure! Hope you enjoy the journey mate πŸ‘πŸΊ
wheedtobeus420
wheedtobeus420week 1
Super excited to follow your Journey! That is super cool!
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
Thanks @wheedtobeus420 ✌️🐺
Mr_Positivo
Mr_Positivoweek 14
Twins!!! πŸ˜‰
biggreens420
biggreens420week 16
Nice harvest fox u get a few seeds from these in the pics? they look nice and frosty wicked work as per usual
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@biggreens420, lol no worries Big G, I was half expecting that reaction anyway πŸ˜‚βœŒοΈπŸΊ
biggreens420
biggreens420
@TheFoxFarmer,no problem lol i just thought they wa seeds as most people will put a pic like that up when they find seeds in lol my bad
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@biggreens420, haha that's light reflection on pic 3, I was close to not uploading it incase there was confusion! πŸ˜‚ no seeds in any bro, pic 13 is just the pre flowers from a few branches looking frosty β„οΈβœŒοΈπŸΊ
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Herbalize
Herbalizeweek 15
So pretty to watch, you do a great job buddy πŸ˜½πŸ‘Œ
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@Herbalize, haha cheers! 🐺
Herbalize
Herbalize
@TheFoxFarmer, πŸ˜‚lmao I admit that you do a monstrous job with all these photos 😁 love to do it is the main thing, even if it takes a lot of time 😻
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@Herbalize, it's a lot of work that's for sure, but I enjoy it. I don't help myself with how many pics I take and the descriptions I write πŸ˜‚πŸΊ
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biggreens420
biggreens420week 16
Looking forward to seeing the harvest I'm thinking of trying one of those cfm they bring out the colour well and been told they produce best terpines
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@biggreens420, that would be perfect mate πŸ‘ŒπŸ‘ there's also that new 600w ceramic HPS that's in the US, so I think I'll wait on the ceramic tech to calm down and become more readily available. I reckon I'll give the 600w HPS a go and bare with the hotter temps. Atm the 315 doesn't take the tent any hotter than 82 on the hottest of days, so hopefully my fans are enough as they are! 🐺
biggreens420
biggreens420
@TheFoxFarmer,yeah I'm thinking of putting one inbetween 2 leds in the big tent as hps is getting too hot like u say and iv only seen the maxibright 315 ones so far and there not cheap so the 630 will cost a bit but definitely looking into it
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@biggreens420, nice one mate ✌️ yeah, the CMH definitely brings the winter colours out very well. And the full spectrum apparently does increase terpene levels, but in all honesty it's not a very powerful light. I'd recommend getting a 630w DE CMH as they have a better area coverage and also penetrate a lot more. But they're not cheap, so I'm still looking at upgrading to a 600w HPS but uncertain what the temps will be now it's warming right up ✌️🐺
bobo420
bobo420week 16
Beautiful rose flowers ;) those are going to make for some nice medicine, that's for sure. I've had twins before, if I keep them indoors, I separate them, if they go out I might leave them together
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@bobo420, I agree mate. I don't think Twin2 would have stood much chance if I left them. I've only ever seen the big twin dominate and kill off the smaller twins from others' experiences ✌️🐺
bobo420
bobo420
@TheFoxFarmer, yeah, if you leave them, you need to have a lot of space for both root masses. Indoors it's best to try and separate them.
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
Cheers @bobo420 ✌️ this was a first for me. I'm glad I separated them 🐺
Tryhard
Tryhardweek 15
It’s was worth a quick look love your girl them flowers are wonderful
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@@Tryhard, oh yesss πŸ˜‰πŸ‘ŒπŸΊ
Tryhard
Tryhard
@TheFoxFarmer,loads of frost round flowers and on leafs you cant go wrong get some nice kief come harvest
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@@Tryhard, cheers mate ✌️ they've both turned out to be stunning rose bushes πŸŒΉπŸ˜‰πŸΊ
bobo420
bobo420week 9
Good luck with the flowering, looking great so far ;)
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@bobo420, nice one mate. If these impress then I'll probably be getting the sugar black rose too, although Eleven Roses is supposed to be the superior offspring. It'd be nice to compare the two in future ✌️🐺
bobo420
bobo420
@TheFoxFarmer, me too :) love the strain, haven't grown it yet but it's on my to grow list, along with sugar black rose
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
Cheers @bobo420 ✌️ looking forward to seeing these two progress 🐺
bobo420
bobo420week 3
Nice side branching, seen nothing but good things for this strain, you have really beautiful plants there ;)
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@bobo420, me too! ✌️🌹🐺
bobo420
bobo420
@TheFoxFarmer, you're welcome ;) looking forward to seeing these roses bloom :)
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
Thanks @bobo420, I appreciate the kind words brother βœŒοΈπŸ‘ŠπŸΊ
biggreens420
biggreens420week 2
Haha missed this one this is crazy so far nice going fox twin's then mutants wats next grow some mad crazy buds can't wait to see what happens next lol
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
Cheers @biggreens420 πŸ‘βœŒοΈ haha don't worry Big G, I think these two will both make it to the end πŸ˜‰πŸΊ
biggreens420
biggreens420
@TheFoxFarmer,hope u get some buds of at least one if not both nice new update as well see them coming on in there mad way
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@biggreens420, hahaha this one's definitely different that's for sure! πŸ˜‚ probably a first on @GrowDiaries πŸ˜‰πŸΊ
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 14
Nice , very nice, everything is perfect, buds are clean from any dust or hairs . Congrats
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNS
@TheFoxFarmer, absolutely true πŸ‘
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
Thanks @JUNGLE_B4RNS, nice one mate ✌️ housekeeping is definitely the most important thing imo πŸ‘Œ cheers! ✌️🐺
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenweek 16
Wow Fox you got some incredibly gorgeous flowers out of this grow! Easily as beautiful as any rose in the garden.🌹πŸ₯€πŸŒ±
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@Experimentgreen, thank you very much πŸ™ and no, it's simply because it's easier in a small veg tent, and pretty much impossible to run a HID in my veg tent. I do need to get a more powerful light for veg though. As soon as I change the room around I may use the 315w cmh for veg πŸ’ͺ✌️🦊
smartstick
smartstickweek 16
hi when you said crazy foxtail did she grow a extra bud on top off her cola with loads off pistols right near the end shes a very fast strain got a week left all bottom buds are done its just the top extra bud and cola thats setting me back ps fantastic grow i learn a lot from you grow shes a monster
TheFoxFarmer
TheFoxFarmer
@smartstick, hi mate, thank you very much ✌️ My #2 did want to finish earlier, but suffered from foxtails due to the heat more than anything. My #1 didn't have any foxtails and grew more of a normal bud structure and density. Foxtails are called as such because they look like fox tails coming out of your bud. It's just extra calyx growth that can sometimes be a very good thing in small amounts as it can increase yeild considerably. It's not good to have really big foxtails though, as it can make trimming a longer and harder task, and also the new calyx's and their trichomes won't be as mature as the rest of the bud βœŒοΈπŸ‘ŠπŸΊ