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Cultilab Dual Purpose 75x75x160cm
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weeks 10-14
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weeks 3-8
Coco Coir
Grow medium
Perlite
Grow medium
18.927 l
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Week 9
Flowering
17.78
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rockbo47 rockbo47
4 years ago
SUMMARY: The OG started flowering towards the end of this week which puts it at almost 4 weeks behind the Amnesia. Providing I have no further set backs with the OG I should be able to comfortably meet in the middle come harvest by chopping the Amnesia 2 weeks late and the OG 1 week early. I realized that I had made a mistake in feeding both plants the same schedule as I have caused a nutrient deficiency in the OG as a result. To rectify this I have separated the feeds and started using the updated growweedeasy.com coco nute schedule which is higher doses (double the previous schedule) for the OG. I will continue using the original GWE schedule for the Amnesia as she is doing fine for now. I have noticed that the runoff of both plants has dropped considerably with the OG as low as 5.1. To remedy this I have started giving an input pH of 6.5. DAY 58 -------- Friday 30/10/2020 07:00pm I have realized that the OG is suffering nutrient deficiency and I suspect it is due to underfeeding as it is not an auto, and is almost twice the size of the Amnesia yet I have been giving them the same nutrient schedule (albeit giving 0.5-1.5L more liquid to the OG on average). To rectify this I have separated the feeds for the plants and so each now feed from a separate bottle. The Amnesia is doing just fine and so I will continue using the growweedeasy.com coco coir nutrient schedule however for the OG I have upped the nutrients to the September 2020 revised coco coir schedule on growweedeasy.com which is the same schedule only doubling the nute strength. Updated schedule I am using for the OG as of today:- https://www.growweedeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/coco-coir-flora-series-schedule.pdf I gave the OG 5L of Transition nutes from the updated GWE schedule and the Amnesia 4L of mid bloom nutes. Unfortunately I lost the notes I made at the time and I don't remember what the pH of the nutes were or how much runoff each gave but I know each gave more than 20% runoff and the pH of the OG runoff was low at 5.1 and the Amnesia was at 5.8. The nutes would have been pH'd between 5.8-6.2 meaning that the OG has a pH issue as it is dropping by 1 point and is on the acidic side. DAY 60 -------- Sunday 01/11/2020 I spent some time today separating the water and feeds for each plant as they have different requirements in both nutrients and pH. For the OG, I made 5L of transition nutes from the 09/2020 revision of the DTW nute schedule from gwe. Its twice the amount of the previous schedule and I have pH'd it to 6.5 to raise the pH of the coco. The last time I checked runoff before I discovered it was at 5.1 this weekend, was on 24/10 and it was 5.8. For the Amnesia I made 4L of mid bloom nutes from the old schedule as she is doing just fine with nice healthy looking dark green leaves so no need to rock the boat. I also pH'd this to 6.5 as the runoff was 5.8 last time I checked (24th oct) and I'd like it at 6.0 ideally so its bang in the middle. OG (IN) = 5L pH 6.5 OG (OUT) = 1.8L (36%) pH 5.5 [1.0 drop] Amnesia (IN) = 3.5L pH 6.5 Amneisa (OUT) = 1.5L (43%) pH 6.0 [0.5 drop] I will keep feeding both at 6.5 until the runoff stabilizes around 6.0 at which point I will lower to 6.1 intake. I gave the OG 4L of transition nutes from the revised GWE coco coir schedule above and the Amnesia 4L of early bloom nutes from old GWE coco coir schedule. The Amnesia should be on mid bloom nutes now as of today however I had exactly 4L of early bloom nutes pre-made and so I gave it that for today. The OG gave 600ml runoff (15%) at a pH of 5.1 and so the pH is off as suggested by someone responding to my grow question on here. I check the pH once per week and so this has only fallen out of range in the last 7-10 days and so I do believe it is also a case of nute strength being too weak. To rectify this I will up the pH of the feeds to 6.5 until its back in range. Although 15% runoff is too little I will not increase the amount above 4L just yet as 4L every 48hours seems a lot. The Amnesia gave 1700ml runoff (42.5%) at a pH of 5.6. I will also raise the pH of the next feed to 6.5 and only give it 3.5L of mid bloom nutes. With this now being the 4th week of flowering for the Amnesia and the OG has not yet even started to show pistils, I don't think I'm going to be able to harvest the OG as they both will need to be chopped when the Amnesia is done. DAY 62 -------- Tuesday 03/11/2020 Both plants were due water and so I gave the OG a flush with 5L of rainwater pH'd to 6.5 and gave the Amnesia 3.5L pH'd to 6.2 (I meant to do 6.5 but forgot as I'm an idiot). The OG gave 1.75L (35%) runoff at a pH of 5.2 and so is still a drop of over 1 point and the Amnesia gave 800ml (23%) at a pH of 5.7 which is 1/2 a point drop and is fine and can be expected - it is also within the correct range (5.5-6.5) for coco. OG (IN) = 5L pH 6.5 OG (OUT) = 1.75L (35%) pH 5.2 [1.2 drop] Amnesia (IN) = 3.5L pH 6.2 Amneisa (OUT) = 800ml (23%) pH 5.7 [0.5 drop] I prepared nutes for the next feed with 5L of (revised GWE schedule) transition nutes at a pH of 6.5 for the OG, and 4L of mid bloom nutes (old GWE schedule) at a pH of 6.2 for the Amnesia. As the Amnesia runoff is at the low end of the range I will pH the Amnesia feed up to 6.5 tomorrow as I had originally planned before its next feed on Thursday. The OG is FINALLY flowering! Its also done some stretching and is now twice the height of the Amnesia. I was getting concerned I was going to have to just throw it but I'll let it run as long as possible (Amnesia harvest will dictate) and maybe I'll be able to make some butter or something - If I'm lucky the buds might have fattened enough to make it smokeable though with the Amnesia strating to flower on it is weeks behind.
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rockbo47
rockbo47started grow question 4 years ago
How much water should I be giving seedlings? They sprouted 2 days ago and are 1-2cm tall. I am using tap water with cal mag at 1ml per litre with a pH of 6.2. using the below https://www.growweedeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Drain-to-Waste-Nutrient-Schedule-custom.jpg
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rhodes68
rhodes68answered grow question 4 years ago
Coco is a hydroponic medium there is no over-watering, no more than Deep Water Culture so within any reasonable use it aint that. You fertigate in coco, every watering is a feeding and they are done to 10-20% runoff no need to guess. Read this and USE it "Coco for Cannabis" by Dr M.J.Coco amazon or his site I stand by our results
rockbo47
rockbo47started grow question 4 years ago
How do we know when the plants need more water when grown in coco? Do I wait until the coco is completely dry up to my knuckle? (as in dig entire finger into coco up to my knuckle) or should I be watering when only the first inch or so of coco is dry?
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HeavyHittah
HeavyHittahanswered grow question 4 years ago
You want Coco to always stay a bit damp . Instead of it fully drying out like soil. Don't let it dry out fully as this can increase your salts in the pots. Also fabric pots dry out quicker so you may need to water a little more than plastic pots. When I use fabrics I would water every other day in vedge and usually everyday in flower once they start needing more water . You'll know when they require more volume as there is less run off . I've now switched to plastic pots and can get away with feeding every other day , until the 5th week of flower . Never understood people feeding 3 times a day in Coco lol because I've never done that and never had any underwatering problems.
rockbo47
rockbo47started grow question 4 years ago
Is this a sign of over-watering? Amnesia auto in 5 gal fabric pot of coco/perlite, Day 9, temps remain between 22-25°C, RH stays between 50-65%. She's had 2.5L of water and 2.5L of low dose nutes since sprout starting at roughly 30ml on first day now up to 500ml per day
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Leaves. Curl up
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 4 years ago
What's wrong? Canoe can be one of many things... soil might be a bit hot? light could be too close? that last one is easy to eliminate it if familiar with it. if light related -- growth will stack up ontop of itself with veritually no internode spacing... another easy way to eliminate that cause. This is less likely, so geting it out of the way. I see you are in coco coir? So, it does need fertilizer each time, but only if you fully saturate with 20% runoff to ensure no buildup occurs. Also, the first 2 weeks or so are powered by the seed anyway. The problem with a big pot and a small plant is doing this without overwatering... in coco coir you shouldn't have to worry.. get the how substrate evenly saturated with 20% runoff.. each time.. wait for a little dry on top before next. (not quite as dry as soil on top, but it should change color a bit). be prepared to wait many days before watering again... culture shock if not doing that before. this avoids algea growth up top too.
rockbo47
rockbo47started grow question 4 years ago
Amnesia auto, coco/perlite mix, 5 gallon fabric pot, 18-6 schedule, sf1000, Day 13, avg temp of 25°C, avg RH of 60%. schedule - https://www.growweedeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/coco-coir-flora-series-schedule.pdf Temps exceeded 30°C for 5hrs today & was 29° yesterday
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Leaves. Curl up
Leaves. Color - Pale
Leaves. Color - Mottling
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GS2020
GS2020answered grow question 4 years ago
Probably irrigation residues? Observe the evolution of these spots carefully every day and check the sheet from behind. Have preventives like diatomaceous earth or potassium soap on hand. Regards!
rockbo47
rockbo47started grow question 4 years ago
As per the title. My Amnesia planted on the same day and had same care began flowering somewhere between days 30-40.
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Buds. Too few
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horsemouth
horsemouthanswered grow question 4 years ago
hi, she is not an autoflowering. it can happen. the only way to make it flower its to flip to 12/12. cheers
rockbo47
rockbo47started grow question 4 years ago
It's quite a light green and some of the leaves are showing damage/poor health as per the pics. Under feeding? Though some of the tips of the leaves show what I thought was nute burn.
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Leaves. Dropping off
Leaves. Wilting
Leaves. Color - Pale
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blendmedmedman
blendmedmedmananswered grow question 4 years ago
you have a ph issue. in turn is causing the plant to lock out the nutrients it nees, so flush your plant until you have a run off of 6.0 ph reading. next let the pot dry out for a few days. when you start feeding nutrients again add cal mag and feed the plant at half of what you have been giving for the first few feeds, you should see improvement in a week or so
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heizenweek 14
Nice grow mate, plants are looking good, keep it up, imma follow this one upclose.
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@heizen, thanks man. I just got done harvesting yesterday and I'm absolutely made up with the dry weight...will be posting soon as I've sampled so that I can give a smoke report
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Good Luck! @rockbo47
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@Ferenc, Thanks man!
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