End of week 4 of veg. - she’s come on super strong the last few days. She’s officially in to transition now, albeit about a week earlier than preferred, even for an auto. Tore ‘er down at the end of the week to open up some air flow and make room for the stretch. Let’s hope it’s a strong stretch too because she’s a squat little beast. Really healthy, really vigorous and no issues to date👍. All well for the upcoming holidays y’all.😎
Tip ‘O The Week
This week I’m gonna rant a little on defoliation. I know... a pretty controversial topic if you talk to anyone who’s got some grow background. There’s the school that says it’s silly and ridiculous - “just let the plant grow” types. Then there’s the school that swears by it as the sole reason for their increased yields - to the point they’re willing to strip the plant nude and rely on straight sugar leaves to provide photosynthesis. Truth be told and when experience speaks that truth😉, neither one of those perspectives is necessarily wrong IMO - the best of both worlds is actually in the middle anyway, between the two extremes. Like most things in growing, you need to ask yourself what you’re trying to accomplish when you defoliate your plants. Is it increased yields? Intentional stunting? Easier maintenance? Mold avoidance - aka better airflow? Once you’ve decided on what’s to be accomplished, you then need to consider your environment. Not just indoors vs. Outdoors but also light types, and environmental variance between spaces. For example, I’ll almost eliminate defoliation as an option when growing outdoors. It seems generally unnecessary and if I want increased airflow then I’m usually cutting full branches that just don’t look like a good use of the plants energy. The wind and sun really are game changers when it comes to growing anything and outdoor is really it’s own game alone👍. Consequently, defo is an almost necessary practice for me indoors but, the techniques I employ will vary based on which of my cabinets is in use and even what season of the year we’re in.
In this particular case, this plant is coming up in our smaller cabinet and just started the transition (in fact, we’re early by a couple days). Given the plants small stature and the need to have each bud site produce as much as possible - we cut this one back pretty heavy, leaving only the highest and smallest fan leaves on each cola (+ a few on the outside that aren’t shading anything. This approach is really due to the grow light - these spiderfarmers are excellent fixtures but I’ve found them less intense overall than the cobs in the other cabinet. With the penetration from the cob lights u you can turn even the smallest larf into useable popcorn bud whereas with the quantum boards, the buds really seem to benefit from greater overall exposure and grow much more uniformly and characteristically to their strain genetics. Although high humidity and temps aren’t really an issue in this environment, the increased airflow does assist with keeping things less jumbled up in the middle of the canopy.👍
So is there a place for defoliation, absolutely. But, you should always be asking yourself why you’re doing it. End of the day it’s still damaging the plant and taking away something that’s it genetically accustomed to growing. But, if you do it right and do it strategically, defo’ing your plants can pay huge dividends. At least that’s the hope with this girl 😉👌👍😎.
With that tirade ‘o bullshit now complete, I will disengage the soapbox and re-pack the bong😉🤟. Stay lit y’all!👊
Background
From Exotic Seeds, Herz OG is a 4th gen. Cross of GG4 and black lemon autos, crossed again with a photo Herz OG mother. Supposedly piney, honey and woody tones with a calm relaxing effect. Just what the lady of the house ordered. She’ll be straight DWC like the rest. 2 weeks on the drip line and depending on how they all do, this may be the girl that stays under the Spider Farmers for the duration. My first go with Exotic so no idea what we’re in for. Let’s hope she’s a beast🤞.
I’ve included a weekly tip forum for those new to the game that have an interest in trying out water based hydroponics. It’s vetted, reliable info that will hopefully help you avoid weeks of lost time and failed attempts. Comments, questions and discussion are always welcome👍.
When u do a res change, do u just take the girls out of the water, how long can they b out of water. And what do u clean the res with? Ur grows r so informative, thanks for that.
@gogreengrow, I have a full replacement res. to swap with so the roots don’t spend a whole lotta time out of the water. A few minutes wouldn’t hurt them in the long run but it’s usually a matter of seconds when I change out. As far as cleaning is concerned, that’s pretty basic. I usually scrub everything down with an H2O2 and water solution when it’s light. Or Diluted clr if it’s pretty gross. I always start a run with a fully sanitized res. Using Rubbing alcohol and water. Same goes for the hoses , air stones and pumps.👍
That is an excellent diary and brilliant review of the strain. thank you. inhave just germinated 1 and now I have read this , I am so stoked I chose it. I do love Fast buds autos in general and seeing their Bluedreamatic pumping huge colas out in one I did , I don't doubt their genetics ever. I hope this diary and review rwcieves the right attention from Fb and grow diaries too. A great example of how us lazy sods need to up our game. lol
@TheBudWhisperer,Have to agree there. sadly there are so many grows i want to butt in with comments in for their poor growing and results. seeing simple things holding them back is a killer but hard to assume they want help too. See so many seeds never reach their potential this way here. wish we had a forum type room or chat function. the telegram one goes way too quick and threads melt into a confusion of replies to different comments lol. Even typing too much here feels a bit of an intrusions growers diaries.. We need a public relations drive to invite comments and encourage chat this way . The weekly updates seems to affect how often folks comment and visit. Thanks for the response
@Ganjagrandaddy, we’ll again - thanks very much for that. Try to give back on here as much as I can. Good community and no shortage of assistance and good advice (as long as you know who talk to of course 😉lol)
@TheBudWhisperer,I know the herz og is an Exotic seed. I have one growing too , I meant fb being a good example of similar yields and sizes to photoperiods but miss quoted the Fb for Exotic.lol It is an excellent example of a diary though and for someone going the same route and strain, ideal for their reason of using sites like this one. New growers and experienced benefit from a detailed grow like this. Thanks bud
Hi there, in your first picture of week 9, I saw a tall plant with clawing leaves. I have ran into similar issue with my plants. Do you know what might be the reason? Nitrogen overdosed?
@agramperwatt, nm - I see you don’t have a diary up. It’s hard to say but in late flower you will often see some signs of leaf damage as the plant reaches maturity. Without specific grow info I’d be firing from the hip to diagnose your issue.
@agramperwatt, we’ll this plant was a shorty - only about a foot tall. As far as the leaves are concerned - we’re in late flower here so not much time left and the plant has begun to fade as it reaches the end of its light cycle. It’s on a 20/4 sched. Too so probably had enough. Although I wouldn’t say there’s any light burn or nute lockout on this one. More just the plant showing signs of harvest readiness. I’ll take a look at yours when I got a chance👍
Great grow and diary! 👍👍❄️🌻🔛🔥. Thanks for sharing. Checking out diaries of Herz OG autos and found your DWC run🤓. I'm soaking 2 of these beans for my last DWC run till the fall. I'll be trying fiming for the first time after seeing your success. It was also helpful to get a baseline on TDS, with this being my 2nd go at DWC. Enjoy your harvest 😎✌️.
@DeaneR, thanks for the kinds words bud! Lol - don’t put any stock into the tds figure though! Think it was left at 420 because I didn’t bother to check it the whole grow😂. This was a bit of test run to see how long I could take a res. without a swap out. That said, if ur measuring TDS, I would say not to worry about it early on. It should be pretty low when in early stages as the plants won’t need much nutes at all. In full veg. And flower you should be just fine between about 600-1200ppms. I know - huge range but, my own experience suggests that this isn’t a major concern as long as your nute mix is appropriate for the growth stage and the res. is clean and aerated. Let me know once u get it all on the go and I’ll follow along. If u have any questions or issues feel free to reach out - I’ve definitely learned a few lessons (and killed a few plants to learn them)👍😎👊
I think this may be my favourite auto run I have seen on grow diaries👍 Interesting info that the fim in dwc works so much better on a auto than in soil due to the vigorous growth it allows.
Yield in that time span from a plant that small is insanely good too.
Top work man👊
@Esoteric_growing, really appreciate that kind of feed back and thank you🙏. While I can't own the flowering time (plant really had everything to do with that lol), fiming autos is a go-to lately. The results are just so much better when you have the right conditions for it. I do however miss seeing the natural result of a full grown auto. Then again... ya can't make an omelet without cracking a few eggs!!!😉
Hi my friend. There was a problem with my plant, and you commented. Thank you very, very much. I am grateful for your help. yes, the problem was calcium magnesium deficiency. the plant survived the stress and recovered. I will publish the new week. and I think you should take a look. best regards my friend.