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Igrowneil Igrowneil
4 years ago
Started 7 girls in a SCROG to open them up some more ... starting to flower and strecth seems to be nearly finished but all girls will remain at 25 inch canopy as this allows maximum light at 700 plus M/mol's per second and temps and hudmity all set where gonna watch these girls put on some serious weight over the next three weeks as flowering is about mid way currently Narrowly mis calculated the girls where all underwatered but hey it's better than over watering as it damaged the CM no.1 pheno with one extra watering so the dry spells and underwatering seem to fix that problem also ... 4 girls are under 1 600w hps 3 GG 1 BC And ScroG has the following under 600w hps 1 GG ( green straw or dot ) 4 CM ( orange straw or dot ) 2 BC ( purple straw or dot ) ( mini SOG AND TRELLIS NETTING ) ABOUT 6FT (L) BY 4 FOOT (W) As of week 5 and day 5 the day of writing , we have the N ISSUE sorted the over / underwatering under somewhat control just hoping when pots dry again and are flooded they respond well . The only girls still in fast strecth is the black cream she's had to get a second layer of trellis netting to make sure she stays 2 foot away from light as she's spitting out 600w and the other I tuned down to 400w as she's lower and was creating a heat spot at edge of canopy under the ScroG and temps where reduced inside the room by 3oC at a more reasonable temp of 24oC Lights 18 / 6 NUTES micro , bloom 100% , PK buddy 100% No Grow givin as the leaves looked shiny on some girls Also gave each plant a feed with p.h water at 6.3 to 6.5 2lt per plant then main feed that same say which soaked all the pots but the girls seemed to enjoy the drowed pots and thrived off them 24 hours later some pots are looking dryer than normal . So this has giving me good confidents we have the grow ready for the main part of flower starting which means we can all put a countdown of about 3 weeks untill chop . These girls have started to flower earlier than expected but the lights are set at 22 inch from canopy with the plants reciving around 600 - 900 m/mols per second across the room ... I think a mix of higher m/mol good watering and the right amount of nutes has put these girls on par to finish for their recommended harvest of 9 weeks from seed ... this is the start of week 6 so 3 full weeks of flower and there loaded with pistles ready to put the weight on already , seen some resin production start from all the girls very little so far but it's started also the flower site's are starting to gain in size as under the pistles start to form and gain weight , as I've ScrOG 7 girls ive opened them up for maxium exposures to the HPS LAMPS , the lower fan sugar leafs and flower sited are now getting fixed light penetration to individual site's... this will not change untill end of flower the girls will sit where there are now ... Noticed that some girls look like there missing the N now as I've not included any this week because I noticed some shiny leaves so decided to cut it back as I've had problems in flower twice now with N toxicity so taken this a good idea to feed with PH water to run off Also to clear the soil of any build ups before flower ... currently feeding at 550 - 600ppm approx girls look okay and are being pushed super hard Any advice on my growing would be a massive help ... happy growing and stay safe people ..
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Igrowneil
Igrowneilstarted grow question 4 years ago
Is 600ppm okay when girls are in flower 18 / 6 25oc Week 6 Mid flower
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Burmese
Burmeseanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi Bro, I answered in your last question.Good luck... ✌️
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Igrowneil
Igrowneilanswered grow question 4 years ago
I'm having problems with some spots on leaves look grey and some others look bronze what would my issue be
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Burmese
Burmeseanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi Bro, As you are growing in soil, the less nutrient the better.Personally, I prefer a slight tips burn on leaves to ensure that the plants are getting enough nutrient.But increasing your dosage only if you know you have proper pH subtrate and too little run off ppm(EC).Happy Growing... ✌️
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Igrowneil
Igrowneilstarted grow question 4 years ago
Help please where am I going wrong 600 ppm 18 / 6 25oC / 21oC Ph 6.4 I have been underwatering plants and now realised I was short by 1 liter per pot per day Overall health good just some marks every time they needed more water
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Albgrow
Albgrowanswered grow question 4 years ago
I think 600 ppm it's to low in 6 week. If u have a pets inside try 35grade for 30 min. But I'm sure, I have problems with nutrients. 600ppm it's to low.
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Burmese
Burmeseanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi Bro, I can’t tell you exactly what the problem is.But for me, I would check my water pH, ppm and run off pH, ppm.If they are not correct, fixed then first.Then give normal nutrition for flowering.Check are they still spreading or not.That’s all I would do for now.Another thing is plants are less defensive during the flowering stage and they are focus on bud production.So leaves might show some symptoms.You should focus on your buds for pests, mold or rot.Happy Growing... ✌️
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Igrowneil
Igrowneilstarted grow question 4 years ago
How am I looking 6 weeks today from seed 18 / 6 No major problems Some slight issues mostly resolved 24oC Bottom leaves and buds site's all removed 2 F (H) 6 F (L) 2F (W) of remaining bud site's and leaves quite a large amount of flower still remaining in trellis netting
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Igrowneil
Igrowneilanswered grow question 4 years ago
Would you say that long I've removed all bottom foliage and bottom bud site's also only the top 2 foot of canopy remains just all tops are evenly spread with 2 400w lights at the moment there responded better with the foliage removed and started going faster into flower .... all 11 have bottom completely removed to speed up flowering or will this not work
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Igrowneil
Igrowneilanswered grow question 4 years ago
End pictures are more recent with praying girls
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deeunit1
deeunit1answered grow question 4 years ago
I'd say you've got at least 5wks to go.Make sure you give them some PK with Calcium.
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Igrowneil
Igrowneilstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hey anyone like to comment on the grow 18 / 6 light Autos 11 plants ScrOG TOPPED SOG WEEK 6 DAY 4
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 4 years ago
Looks as fine as can be ! great work !
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Igrowneil
Igrowneilanswered grow question 4 years ago
It's pretty hard watering in the attic takes longer cause the water I can't risk going through my home but apart from that everything is on auto .. temps lights and humidity also automated, next grow I'll also have more fan and a humidifier and a humidity controller for both so only one can run at a time also a cooler for the tempuature control until will leave it totally auto apart from watering which I'll always want to do by hand as each plant can be tailored to your grow needs .. drop me a mail I'm always free to talk weed
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Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 4 years ago
It looks great, and here I am thinking 7 is a lot, you've got me beat with 11. Keep up the amazing work.
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Igrowneil
Igrowneilstarted grow question 4 years ago
Any suggestions?? 18 hours light 650 ppm 6.5 ph No current problems Starting to stack flower
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Rusticbuds
Rusticbudsanswered grow question 4 years ago
No deficiencies, no toxicity. Looks really good👌🏼 a light defoliation would be my only suggestion✂️🌱. The buds will thank you for the extra light😎
Igrowneil
Igrowneilstarted grow question 4 years ago
Anyone recommend me continue with my GHE RIPEN or back to TRI PART and add the nitrogen and micro nutes back in until they finish or just ripen
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 4 years ago
They are pretty close to harvest and I would suggest not giving any more nitrogen/nutrients, they will finish just fine if you continue with what you are already doing. The leaves going yellow is normal and is due to your plant reabsorbing the nutrition in the leaves for use as an energy source to mature the flowers. It is more efficient for your plant to do this, rather than grow flowers AND make nutrition from new during this stage of flowering, and is one thing defoliation advocates fail to understand. Cannabis needs the old leaves as a fuel/nutrition source for when she is flowering. Removing the leaves while they are green means the plant must divide her energy between growing flowers and making nutrition (carbs, sugars, amino acids etc) from new, whereas had the leaves been left on, the plant can use nearly all the energy for flower growth and obtain her nutrition (carbs, sugars, amino acids etc) that she has already manufactured and "stored" in her older leaves and waiting for use during flowering, and this is why the so called "fade" happens and why the older leaves will go yellow on otherwise healthy and well fed plants during flowering. Hope this helps,.......... Organoman.
Igrowneil
Igrowneilstarted grow question 4 years ago
So how do you people think I've done ? Week 8 today from seed for all girls GORILLA GIRL XL AUTO CREAM MANDARIN XL AUTO BLACK CREAM AUTO 1320w , 18-6 light , PPM 650 maxed , P.H 6.4 always Any constructive criticism would be helpful don't be afaird to offend me
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BraveheartGenetics
BraveheartGeneticsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi mate, apart from a bit of heat stress they look awesome. Well done man...
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Igrowneil
Igrowneilstarted grow question 4 years ago
What your opinion people ... will harvest soon when tricomes are ready ... but I must say WOW
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Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 4 years ago
The plant looks amazing and super frosty, but those pistils are still pretty white indicating she is not ready to be harvested yet, give her more time, so the pistils can turn amber and start going back into the buds.
Igrowneil
Igrowneilstarted grow question 4 years ago
Can't wait to harvest these girls ... Mabey 2 weeks away for them all Mabey slightly longer .... anyone any thought
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JesusChrist
JesusChristanswered grow question 4 years ago
Let them go. Buy a jewelers loupe on Amazon or use a magnifying glass and look at the Trichomes on the buds, not leafs but buds. They go Clear-cloudy-Amber once 35"% are amber chop it down
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Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 4 years ago
They look amazing, and I'd say you're not too far off with the 2 weeks left, I'd personally about 3 weeks if you're going to flush. Loving the Frost they produced.
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Igrowneil
Igrowneilanswered grow question 4 years ago
@mr_weeds_autos @Sweet_seeds @Bluntzilla @Roberts anyone any opinions I did notice when I've run the girls at 769ppm I done minor damage but feed is reduced to 450ppm and will reduce futher over the next 10 days then stop altogether ... plants are still drinking 1.5 liter or more daily, air exchange was ramped up 180m2 per hour and lights are able to run at 1060w at 21oC heater is on constant and got Ona PRO block 170g ... my good any concern from the smell of the plants is gone these little blocks are amazing... I couldn't smell the girls at all within the tent and plan on ordering a few more for drying as these are powerful little blocks ... natural essintal oils safe for plants BRISTISH Irish Russian French Italian these little blocks do super at hiding any smell related to the product growing... says works for 4 weeks I need it to only work for 2 weeks and then I'll replace it ...
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Igrowneil
Igrowneilweek 6
50 main colas in the ScroG x7 plants Plus 4 smaller plants this is gonna be a good harvest as even these smaller girls will yeild something desent
Igrowneil
Igrowneilweek 5
Note ... do not change watering .. glad I only added a bit as they didn't take well to the extra water in the medium ... prefer bone dry before watering again
Igrowneil
Igrowneilweek 3
Topped 9 of the girls after topping two plants and they should no slower growth or problems , it did slow growth by about 12 hours before lights out plants where doing super so another 6 got there heads cut off meaning with 9 plants we have 18 new tops and 21 tops altogether now Also broke a branch on a plant yesterday noticed it looking like shit today so pulled it off Also lights moved and airflow out increased as temps warm up I don't want GG genetics turning hermi as it has GORILLA GLUE #4 GENITICS which was a hermi itself ... but high high THC
Igrowneil
Igrowneilweek 0
Okay people glad to say where on track to fire these girl up Monday, don't forget to check out my other dairys, happy growing ppl
Sweet_Seeds
Sweet_Seedsweek 0
Thank you very much for sharing another diary 😋 Sweet smokes, - Apolo
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@Sweet_Seeds, Apollo check them out , going into late now some amazing shots of the 11 girls left ... gonna be a heavy heavy harvest I think I've done these girls proud and providing very detailed dairys for anyone interested in growing your strains... sweet smokes Apolo my man
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@Sweet_Seeds, hopefully 100% germanation rate and well have 12 beautiful girls
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@Sweet_Seeds, your welcome
DreamIT
DreamITweek 1
Enjoy growth mate 🤠👊🍀
Igrowneil
Igrowneilweek 6
MORE INFO 09-3-21 Plants are 6 weeks from seed today and are going into mid flower so 2 to 4 weeks left on all plants Lights where dropped to 400w each and fixed heat issue and watering has been great and was able to get plants back into super power mood as the pictures for next week will show ... Humidity has not been to bad and the new dehumidifier is working like a charm as it can pull 12 liters a day from the air Also trellis netting has keep plants as open as possible and created a very good growth rate all over some plants will produce 6 main colas or more Removed all bottom flower site's and fan leaves to open up more air flow and to push all power now towards the top flowers and within 3 hours the plants looked the best they have been this winter grow ... CREAM MANDARIN and GORILLAGIRL are in power to finish in 2/3 weeks at most as there flying now BLACK CREAM is taking some what longer to flower and still in strecth thoe I don't mind the amount of flower site's is pretty impressive and there going purple all 3 that left ... Happy growing peeps
Ferenc
Ferencweek 10
Really good! Well done! @Igrowneil
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@Ferenc, thank you , I'll chop the frist black cream tomorrow evening and then that will be it for a few short days as the rest is a bit behide due to my own mistakes but the flowers on the remaining plants will be left as long as possible to mature but there looking like there going to be a fairly good harvest with very good quialty flower
Indoor55
Indoor55week 1
Good luck bro, same strain as me. I was thinking about topping them because they get huge, but i have decided only supercrop+lst. So curious to see how they respond to topping. Good vibes☘️
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@Indoor55, I'm experimenting between topping them or ScroG type grow, is a supercrop removing all the popcorn buds. I've also got x4 gorilla girl xl auto and x4 black cream auto growing alongside these on separte dairys
KaeptenEinsicht
KaeptenEinsichtweek 0
Viel Glück Mate 👍
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@KaeptenEinsicht, thank you , I do expect to harvest 750 plus grams off this 12 pot , thats minimum results 🤑🤑
Polaskis
Polaskisweek 0
Best of luck with the grow 🍻
HAPPY91
HAPPY91week 12
Beautiful looking buds. Keep up the amazing progress. I hope for strong happy and healthy grows. Good luck stay safe happy growing cheers!!!!!!
HAPPY91
HAPPY91
@Igrowneil, I look at the trichomes and if I see some amber ones I know she is ready. I hope this may help. Cheers!
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@HAPPY91, thank you pal , I don't know if I should harvest or wait a while before chopping , she's ready I just reckon she's more weight to put on the bottom frist
timbarin
timbarinweek 10
nice grow!!! n-joy the smokes
timbarin
timbarin
@Igrowneil, I meant to post on the previous one of the harvest
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@timbarin, thank you there some more growing nearly at harvest week or two more thoe
justright
justrightweek 7
These are looking pretty good. I see a few that look like they could use a touch more nitrogen. but over all nice. I have never grown in soil. Always coco. For me. I find autos do not like fed any where near as heavy as photos. You didn't say which GH you use. I use the flora grow line and only run about 700ppm with my autos. That is with all my additives. I will be adding my next grow. 4 autos and 2 or 3 photos. Man I love growing 😀
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
This week has went amazing like the rest all I have to say is I gave a 33% feed of N AND MICRO with bloom 100% with buddy 100% and will switch back and forth from this and ripen as it's only PK ONLY and flowers are in serious demand as there's ScrOG I've mostly all top colas on all branches apart from the UNTOPPED plants to compare at the end ... Some difference in them now ... topped and trained autos are miles ahead ... yes ahead the plants loved it the UNTOPPED plants and untrained will yeild a lot less and also smaller buds all over... easy to tell what's what now
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@justright, the same myself I'm using tri part it's in the other weeks , I should add that I did feed them a little N P K this time thoe I found leaving them to want the N is giving me some better results missing a feed now and again to allow the plants to use any build up in leaves or soil alike and feed PK NUTES only at the start of the week as there in late flower they need this every feed but the micro and grow I don't think they used much since week 5 I feed them 3 times N but micro and PK the rest ... ppm is also in dairy mines is around 550 with everything in as 700 gave them tip burn so 650 was the max after that ... I've had little to no problems from start some minor shit as always with every grow .... soil is great with fabric pots I feed at a lower amount so I don't get any build up of salts within my soil as I've learnt from that mistake already ... my next grow will be the same again only a different seedbank is sponsored me
Lukush
Lukushweek 2
Good luck man girls looking happy 😎😎
Lukush
Lukush
@Igrowneil,yeahh good one man 👌🌲 I feal the love in the rigthing❤️❤️ keep it up ma man good job
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@Lukush, there's one cream Mandarin will feature in next update as she's very aggressive , everything about her says she's special , my girls are going that good I'm thinking about topping them all , 16 days above grove today and onto it's 4th node is approx 20cm in height I'd to put the 2 inch extra soil just so they wouldn't all fall over ... Trying them at 600w and it's looking good 6hours in all looking a lot happier with the added light ... my lights do sit 3 foot above canapoy
Indoor55
Indoor55week 7
Monsters! I have them in mini version hahaha
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@Indoor55, thank you , I found the automated temp and humidity control is key to a good harvest , also good watering and light setup is a must . My last girls where slightly bigger growing 24 hours but they aren't trained , THOE these girls are becoming monster's
Secretflower
Secretflowerweek 7
Are you a sweet seeds tester ? Cause all your journals are from them strains, lol..😜
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@Secretflower, yes I am indeed , next I'm testing @Zamnesia and after that @Emeraldtriangleseeds and I've a few other offers on the table would love to test the @Marshydro or @Spiderfarmer lights ... I'd like to see if they keep in par my HIDS and compare them on dairys ... sweet seeds liked my growing so Sponsered the seeds for free also the other two seedbanks but I'm happy to pay for them only testing to see if my growing skills can promote the plants I'm growing better , these sweet seeds I'm really doing justice as the yeilds and bud size , plant size and everything is doing a lot better than most dairys
MrHightimes
MrHightimesweek 1
Lotsa pots!!!!!
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@MrHightimes, onto week 6 will update today and going into the later stages of flower at 6 weeks these girls be down for week 9
sompas
sompasweek 4
Plants look good i think yours is about 5 week of flowering. You can set scrog right now this is the time and always keep plants grow flat. good luck!
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@sompas, there all 5 weeks from seed today , 4 weeks 2 days from frist leaves , I'm going to order the netting today
HAPPY91
HAPPY91week 4
Looking amazing. Keep up the wonderful progress. I hope for strong happy and healthy grows. Good luck stay safe happy growing cheers!!!!!
Igrowneil
Igrowneil
@HAPPY91, thank you pal that's another week over today and the girls are another half foot bigger at least last I checked they where about 25 inch some about 15 inch only hoping they all make it to a desent size before strecth stops. The room is filling up quickly